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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: m.sharp on Tuesday 02 June 09 17:09 BST (UK)
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Hello, have discovered my Dads sister Alice nee Sennitt married a Thomas Ashton in Romford, Essex. They had 3 daughters (one apparently died at birth), marriage date 08.02.1920, she was 22 and he was 30, her daughters were all born in Wandsorth in 1924, 26 & 28, names are Bettina J. Pamela M. Lesley G who died. I believe Alice died aged 94 in Havering, Essex. She was born in Friern Barnet, Herts. I think Thomas originates from either Battersea or Whitton, Surrey. Can anyone tell me is Havering a big town pls? or does anyone have any info on Thomas Ashton or their daughters? Many thanx.
Mags.
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Alice Beatrice Ashton
died Aug 1992
aged 94
born 22/11/1897
Havering
Havering is is Essex, not far from London, it is a registration district, and covers quite a few sub districts, I think Romford might well come in this district
The only way you will find out more is to purchase Alice's death cert, it will give you an address and an address of her informant
Best wishes
Louisa Maud
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If you have the marriage cert it should give Thomas's fathers name and occupation - which might help us find the family in 1901
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Havering has been a London Borough since the mid sixties (unfortunately for those of us that live there) and the council office's that run the borough are situated in Romford. Romford it self is a market town whilst Havering is in fact a village to the north of the borough and is known by its full title of Havering atte Bower. The area's that the borough covers are,
Havering atte Bower
Collier Row
Chase Cross
Noak Hill
Harold Hill
Gidea Park
Harold Wood
Ardleigh Green
Emerson Park
Upminster
Romford
Hornchurch
Elm Park
Cranham
North Ockendon
Rainham
As Alice died in the Havering district you could apply for a copy of her death certificate at Langtons Register Office, Langtons House, Billet Lane, Hornchurch RM11 1XL
old rowley
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This may or may not help but here goes anyway
1901 RG13/1189 FOLIO 139 AGE 29
1 Kyezor Terr
Parish of Whitton St James
Twickenham
Joseph Ashton 39 Bricklayer born Battersea
Kate 38 born Whitton
Thomas 11 Whitton born circa 1890 age on marr cert in 1920 was 30
Blanche 8 Whitton
Alice 5 mths
BUT unless you know differently the father cannot be confirmed till you have a cert
regards
Louisa Maud
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Thank u all for yr replies, I sent for the cert. of Alice's death in Havering and it's not her!!! The maiden name on cert. is Green and not Sennitt and she was the widow of Stanley Ashton, not Thomas, plus the daughter who registered it doesn't relate. I'm quite disappointed as i thought this might lead me to my cousins.
The Fathers name on the Marriage cert. is Frederick (deceased), and he was a Superintendant of Telegraphs at the G.P.Office.
We shall persevere tho.
Many thanx once again and sorry to lead u up the garden path, hopefully someone can help tho.
Regards Mags.
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Are you wantimg to go further back - or have you already done that (as presumably her parents etc are same as your dads!)
Or are you just wanting to move forward with this branch, trying to find what happened to the surviving daughters.
If so , it is probably just a long haul through the full indexes, quarter by quarter. With an unusual name like Bettina, there may not be many possible marriages to consider.
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Hi Lizdb
I would like to find the daughters if they married that is, and have tried wot u suggested and yr right it is a long haul, i would also like to find the origins of Thomas Ashton i.e. where he was born etc., but that is proving hard also, plus finding Frederick, his father. Yes Alice was my Dads sister with the same parents.
Thank u.
Mags.
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Here is a possible family, given name and occupation of his father, but area is different to what you thought!
1891
RG12 4218 11 16
60 Falmouth Rd Heaton Newcastle
Frederick Ashton 31 telegraphist bn Woolwich Kent
Elizabeth 28 bn Newcastle
Thomas A 1 bn Newcastle
Isabella Smith mother in law 50 wid bn Scotland
1901
RG13 4793 142 11
same address
Frederick 41 Clerk bn Woolwich
Lily 38 bn Newcastle
Thomas 11 bn Newcaslte
Isabella Smith m-in-law 63 bn Berwick Scotland
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Hiya Lizdb
Crumbs!! There's a mixture of places there, but it may be a possibility, NOW WHY didnt i find that? But Fredk was born in Woolwich tho, so this could be the one!!! I take no notice of where they live in the census as they just seemed to up and leave whenever the fancy took them (or job maybe) a. Dads siblings were born in Friern Barnet, Camberwell, Chelsea and Edmonton and in the 1911 census they were living in Essex, hence the mistaken identity of my death cert. then back to London. Thank u very much for that, but i cant find any marriages for either of the daughters, my Mum always thought they become Nuns, so its possible. Can u search convents on any sites dyu know?
Thanx again Mags.
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Hi, I have just read your list of ancestors and many are mine ie Sennitt,Money,Gototbed,Hitch and Langford. If you care to get in touch with me my email address is (*) best wishes Sandra
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