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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: Evelina on Tuesday 02 June 09 14:02 BST (UK)
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Hi Can anyone tell me the name of the Catholic School in Speen, Berkshire in 1851. The census does not seem to show this although it shows a Priest Rev. Louis de la Poite, 2 schoolmasters and lots of pupils.
ED 1A Houshold Schedule 337 Page 79
Looking at the previous page the street/house name I can see is, I think, Delters Blgs.
Thanks Evelina
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Hi
The correct reference is HO107 Piece 1685 Folio 484 Page 79
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Hello,
if you read the district description: Speen Disdtrict 1a, it refers to St Mary's Church and School- that could be a way to begin your search.
best wishes
heywood
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Hi there,
Not much help, but the Berks FHS 1851 cd has ref
1685/484/79 & 485/80/337
but does not have a name for the school. None of the pupils were from Berkshire and only 2 servants from the staff were.
The transcription has Louis de la POILE as its head, a Catholic priest as you said. A Frenchman.
Yours
Vicwinann
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Hello,
if you read the district description: Speen Disdtrict 1a, it refers to St Mary's Church and School- that could be a way to begin your search.
best wishes
heywood
Not as it appears to have been a Catholic School. Looking in a C of E Church and school records would probably be futile.
Yours
Vicwinann
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Hello,
if you read the district description: Speen Disdtrict 1a, it refers to St Mary's Church and School- that could be a way to begin your search.
best wishes
heywood
Not as it appears to have been a Catholic School. Looking in a C of E Church and school records would probably be futile.
Yours
Vicwinann
Hello Vicwinann,
I was expecting that Evelina would read the description where it refers to the Catholic Chapel and School- it may not be St Mary's as such- the writing is rather scrawly but I am sure she is interested enough to look a bit further.
best wishes
heywood
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Thanks all for the info, i will try online and see what comes up, Evelina
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Good luck Evelina,
I have tried all sorts of searches to no avail! As a last resort, perhaps the Diocesan offices at Portsmouth may be able to help.
heywood
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Evelina,
District 4 of 1861 census also refers to it in similar terms but not by name ::)
"Speenhamland... including houses occupied by Catholc Chapel and school'
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Having looked it up in 1861 - London Road seems to be the address but still no name.
St Joseph's Newbury seems to be (I keep saying seems as I have no knowledge of the area but enjoy digging and delving and trying to be of help :D) the Catholic Church which came from the Chapel.
http://www.westberks.org/GroupRenderCustomPage.asp?GroupID=2537&ResourceId=126266
indicates that the first school was built c 1855 by Father Hodgson who is actually named in the 1861 census - a nice bit of history.
good luck
heywood
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there is a catholic junior school [St Mary"s] in NEWPORT CLOSE ,off of London rd,opposite Faraday rd, at the junction of Newport rd and IDEN CLOSE,this area used to be known as "speen" but is now SHAW.
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Thanks everyone this has been a great help, I am in Scotland myself so cannot go to the area and ask questions. All the info you have supplied adds to the picture. Thanks again. Evelina
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there is a catholic junior school [St Mary"s] in NEWPORT CLOSE ,off of London rd,opposite Faraday rd, at the junction of Newport rd and IDEN CLOSE,this area used to be known as "speen" but is now SHAW.
This area is actually part of Newbury but used to be Woodspeen East, part of the parish of Speen absorbed by Newbury in 1878. Locals think of it as Shaw (parish of Shaw cum Donnington) - the boundaries of which are confusing - the civil parish contains very little of what would be considered Shaw though the ecclesiastical parish has grown in 'recent' years to take in much of the relatively short lived parish of St Mary's, Speenhamland (1830 to c1965).
Any 1850s Catholic school would be associated with St Joseph's and hence with the abbey in Woolhampton who founded St Joseph's. But 1851 seems a little early.
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There is an article on the St. Joseph's Church web site about the church's golden Jubilee in 1978.
The piece contains a snippet about the creation of the school at 105 London Road, which is now the presbetery for the Church.
Article: http://www.stjosephsnewbury.org.uk/ (scroll down the page to find the link to the article.)
Map: http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&cp=sk0y53gwq3z8&scene=17151271&lvl=2&sty=b
105 London Road is second from the Central left attached to the chruch hall.
Hope that Helps
PaulGT