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Title: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: larky on Saturday 30 May 09 21:19 BST (UK)
looking for any info on mary beer who married thomas baillie, chelsea pensioner from glassford scotland,1851 census shows living in calstock cornwall.she died 1868 in glassford scotland .this is my wifes great,great ,grandmother.she was born approx 1820 in calstock area father maybe james .any help will be most appreciated
thanks

wal
Title: Re: mary beer calstock
Post by: hepburn on Saturday 30 May 09 21:55 BST (UK)
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=910111&dbtype=baptisms

Could this be her?
Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: hepburn on Saturday 30 May 09 22:00 BST (UK)
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=191214&dbtype=marriages

May be James and Marys marriage...
Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 30 May 09 22:20 BST (UK)
Hi Wal

If Mary died in Scotland in 1868, have you purchased her death cert off Scotland's People as  it should have the names of both her parents on it, including mother's maiden name?
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

For Ref: 1851 they are in the village of Metherill in the parish of Calstock
HO107 /  Piece: 1901 /  Folio: 92 /  Pg 5
Thomas 43 and Mary BAILEY 31, plus a 5 year old Neice, Mary BAILEY b Glassford Scotland.

On the same page is the following (is this the possible father you mentioned above?)
Head: James BEER 62, Ag Lab, b Exeter Devon
Wife: Mary BEER 61, b St Ives Cornwall
Son: Thomas BEER 36, unm, b Calstock Cornwall

On this page - may be siblings of your Mary:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/40133a.html
In Metherill   1841: HO107 - Piece 133 - Book 2 -  Folio 48  - Pg21
James BEER 35, Ag Lab, Mary BEER 40, Eliza BEER 10, Richard BEER 20
This indicates James Mary and Eliza are a 'family group' and Richard is a relative (possibly a brother) to James.

Cheers
AMBLY

Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 30 May 09 22:33 BST (UK)
Mary's death is indexed as:

Mary BAILLIE age 48
Other Surname BERE
Registered Glassford, Lanarkshire 1868

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: larky on Monday 01 June 09 08:25 BST (UK)
thanks alot ambly,
did purchase death cert from scot people but was unable to read mothers maiden name ...so shall go with mary husbands as mothers name see where it leads me .any good at milatary searches as would like to know why thomas baillie was a chelsea  pensioner he was born abt 1807 in glassford and what regiment he served with,tryed the national archieve but  not very user freindly .
thanks again for ur help

wal
Mary's death is indexed as:

Mary BAILLIE age 48
Other Surname BERE
Registered Glassford, Lanarkshire 1868

Cheers
AMBLY
 
Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: larky on Monday 01 June 09 08:29 BST (UK)
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=191214&dbtype=marriages

May be James and Marys marriage...


i think it may well be ...shall go with that  see where it leads
thanks again for ur help
Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: cg fan on Wednesday 26 August 09 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi, Just found this post, I think my 3x greatgrandad George Beer could be Mary's brother.
I have just found on the Cornwall parish registers for births, to James and Mary Beer, as hepburn said earlier..

William b Oct 6 1816 ID 909804 residence Harrowbeer.
John b March 29 1818 ID 909940  Harrowbeer.
Mary b Jan.2 1820 ID 910111  Metherill.
Richard b Nov. 18 1821 ID 910289 Metherill.
Thomas b Sept 4 1825 ID 910620 Metherill.
George b July 16 1827 ID 910759  Metherill.
Eliza b Dec. 25 1828 ID 910877 Metherill.

I am not sure if these are the siblings of George, as I only had him before reading your post, and I am still fairly new to researching.

George married Jane Gumb and moved to Scotland with his family, and his daughter Mary was born Sept 3 1867, Glassford Lanark, IGI extracted, father George Beer mother Jane Gum.
George and family moved again, to Staveley, Derbyshire,but on the 1881 census, it has Mary born in Stravon, Scotland.

I am not sure where James came from, Cornwall, or Exeter, Devon. I have no further information on him, or Mary Husband.
It can be so confussing but I keep trying.
Any help or more information is greatly appreciated.
Hope this helps larky.
Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: cg fan on Wednesday 26 August 09 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi again, Glassford is in Strathavon, Lanarkshire. Stravon is short for Strathavon, so my Scottish step father- in law says.
So Mary was born in Glassford.
Title: Re: Mary BEER Calstock
Post by: jpwilli on Sunday 11 July 10 17:46 BST (UK)
Hello Wal,

Just found your message here, I believe I may have info on your Mary Beer as she is part of my tree as well.  Maybe we can be of help to each other?

Please contact me at my e-mail address and make subject line MARY BEER (that will your mail will get my attention).  My address is below.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Julie   

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