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I would like to hear from anyone who is researching the Ireland family from East Yorkshire.
Regards
CJL
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Hi,
I have some Ireland family in my tree, one of my Ethell family married into them.
Descendants of Wilson Wade Ireland
1 Wilson Wade Ireland b: 29 March 1845 in Weaverthorpe,Yorks
. +Hannah Cuthbertson b: 28 September 1856 in Old Malton,Yorks m: 27 September 1874 in Old Malton,Yorks
... 2 Thomas Ireland b: 1875 in Malton,Yorks
....... +Mary Ann Ethell b: Abt. 1875 in Norton,N.Yorks m: 24 May 1899 in St Peter's Church,Norton,Yorks
......... 3 Richard C Ireland b: 1900 in Settrington ,Yorks
... 2 John Ireland b: 1877 in Fulford,York
... 2 Sarah Hannah Ireland b: 1880 in Eckington,Derbys.
... 2 Richard Ireland b: 1881 in Fulford,York
... 2 Lily Ireland b: 1883 in Fulford,York,Yorks
... 2 Alice Ireland b: 1889 in Elvington,Yorks
... 2 George William Ireland b: 1891 in Birdsall,Yorks
... 2 Edwin Ireland b: 1894 in Birdsall,Yorks
... 2 Charles Ireland b: 1896 in Birdsall,Yorks
... 2 Albert Ireland b: 1897 in Birdsall,Yorks
... 2 Robert Wilson Ireland b: 1900 in Norton,Yorks
Trevor
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Trevor,
Thank you for responding to my post. My earliest Ireland ancestor was John Ireland born 1763 in Wold Newton. He was the son of Richard who was born sometime between 1732 and 1735 (place of birth unknown.)
Given the close proximity of Wold Newton and Weaverthorpe, I would think that there is a connection somewhere between our two Ireland families.
Best Wishes
CJL
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I have both Ethell and Ireland in my husband's tree.
Richard Robinson born abt 1804 maried Elizabeth Irleland (Hall) born abt 1808
One of their children, a son Robert Darley Robinson born abt 1845 married Hannah Ethell born abt 1839.
Do let me know if you want further information
Regards Genious
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Genious,
Thank you for responding to my post. Do you know where Elizabeth Ireland born about 1808 was born?
Best Wishes
CJL
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Elizabeth Irleland Hall was born 4 Aug 1818 in Sherburn Yorkshire and died 1891 Ebberston Yorkshire.
She married twice - not certain in her first husband was called Ireland or Hall.
I have several Irelands in our tree, one instance beining:
Jane Ireland born abt 1849 Folkton who married John Robinson born abt 1837
They married in 1870 in Scarborough.
Should you wish to read my full file on the families please PM me and I will be happy to send it to you, it is too large to post here.
Regards JeanH
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Jean,
I do not have either of the two Ireland names which you mention in my family tree, but Folkton is not too far away from Wold Newton, so possibly there is a connection somewhere between our lines of the Ireland family.
Best Wishes
CJL
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Hi,
I have quite a bit on the Ethell,Ireland,Robinson families. Please ask and I will check for you.
Trevor
Descendants of Robert Darley Robinson
Generation No. 1
1. ROBERT DARLEY3 ROBINSON (RICHARD2, JOHN1) was born 1845 in Ebberston,N.Yorks. He married HANNAH ETHELL 1871 in Pickering,N.Yorks, daughter of ? BOWLES and SARAH ETHELL. She was born 11 September 1850 in Scarborough,N.Yorks, and died Bef. 1891 in Scarborough,Yorks.
More About ROBERT DARLEY ROBINSON:
Census: 1851, HO107/2373/367/10
Occupation 1: 1871, Farm Servant
Occupation 2: 1881, Labourer & Shepherd (Ag)
Residence 1: 1851, Ebberston,N.Yorks
Residence 2: 1871, Cottage,Low Street,Ebberston,N.Yorks
Residence 3: 1881, Black House,Allerston,N.Yorks
More About HANNAH ETHELL:
Occupation: 1871, Kitchen Maid
Residence 1: 1871, Lodge,Ebberston,N.Yorks
Residence 2: 1881, Black House,Allerston,N.Yorks
More About ROBERT ROBINSON and HANNAH ETHELL:
Marriage: 1871, Pickering,N.Yorks
Children of ROBERT ROBINSON and HANNAH ETHELL are:
i. MARY JANE4 ETHELL, b. 1869, Scarborough,N.Yorks; Stepchild; m. ? ?, 1886.
More About MARY JANE ETHELL:
Residence: 1871, 13 Belle View Street,Scarborough,N.Yorks
More About ? ? and MARY ETHELL:
Marriage: 1886
ii. RICHARD ETHELL ROBINSON, b. 1874, Ebberston,N.Yorks; m. ADA ?; b. 1877, Middlesbrough.
More About RICHARD ETHELL ROBINSON:
Occupation: 1901, Railway Shunter
Residence: 1901, 17 Falmouth Street,Middlesbrough
More About ADA ?:
Residence: 1901, 17 Falmouth Street,Middlesbrough
iii. HERBERT ROBINSON, b. 1877, Ebberston,N.Yorks; d. 1888, Scarborough,Yorks.
iv. ROBERT HENRY ROBINSON, b. 1880, Allerston,N.Yorks.
v. HARRY ROBINSON, b. Abt. 1881, Ebberston,N.Yorks; d. 22 November 1963, Wakefield,Yorks; m. JANE CLARK, 17 December 1901, Primitive Methodist Church,Scarborough,Yorks; b. Abt. 1880, West Ayton,Yorks; d. 11 February 1943, Wakefield,Yorks.
More About HARRY ROBINSON:
Burial: November 1963, Thornes Church Graveyard,Wakefield
More About JANE CLARK:
Burial: February 1943, Thornes Parish Church of St James Graveyard
Census 1: 1881, RG11/4807/129/1
Census 2: 1891, RG12/3969/108/7
Occupation: December 1901, Servant
Residence 1: 1881, West Ayton,Yorks
Residence 2: 1891, Yedmandale Terrace,West Ayton,Yorks
Residence 3: December 1901, 177 Cromwell Road,Scarborough,Yorks
More About HARRY ROBINSON and JANE CLARK:
Marriage: 17 December 1901, Primitive Methodist Church,Scarborough,Yorks
vi. ARTHUR ROBINSON, b. Abt. 1884, Scarborough,Yorks.
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Hi Dortmund
Thank you for your message. I suspect we may have been in contact previously as your records tally very closely with mine. I will pm you for more information
Regards JeanH
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I am searching for the first husband of Elizabeth Hall. She was born abt 1808 in Sherburn or Thornton (depending on which census you are reading)
Elizabeth's first husband was (surname) Irleland. She had known children to him: Mary Ann Ireland born bt 1831 Heslerton? and Hannah Irelland born abt 1832 Heslerton?
Mary Ann Ireland is living with her grandparents Stephen and Ann Hall in Yeddingham 1841 Census (these are Elizabeths parents)
Elizabeth then went on to marry Richard Robinson born abt 1804 Ebberston. They married in 1836 perhaps in Ebberston.
The family is well documented from then onwards but would like to know the name of Elizabeths first husband and when he died.
Regards jean herbert
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Jean
Mary Ann was christened on the 1st July 1830 in West Heslerton and Hannah was christened on the 2nd November 1831 in West Heslerton.
Both christening records show their fathers name as William Ireland and their mothers name as Elizabeth.
There is a marriage of a William Ireland and an Elizabeth Hall on the 17th August 1829 in Tadcaster.
Hope this information is of use.
You can view the above details for yourself at www.familysearch.org
Best Wishes
CJL
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Thank you so much for finding that information. It ties in nicely with the information I have from the Parish Records of Ebberston.
Records from Ebberston Parish Records
8 Sep 1833 - Baptism of Betsy – daughter of William and Elizabeth Ireland
1 Feb 1834 – Burial of Betsy Ireland (infant)
14 Feb 1834 - Burial of William Ireland
April 27 1835 – Marriage of Elizabeth Ireland to William Robinson
Until you came up with the information as to Baptism of the first two children, with father's name William I could not prove who the father was.
There are so many Ireland and Robinson families in the area that it was difficult to pin point the correct person.
By any chance is William Ireland one of your ancestors as I would like to find his father?
Thank you once again.
Regards JeanH
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Jean,
You are most welcome. I have not been able to find a connection between your Ireland family and mine as yet. There most probably is a connection, it is just finding the connection which may prove difficult.
Do you know where William Ireland was born?
Best Wishes
CJL
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The only information I have on William Ireland is from records from Ebberston Parish Records.
William Ireland died age 33 on 14 Feb 1834.
I also found a baptism record for a William Irleland - son of Michael and Mary Ireland date Aug 18 1792. I have no proof that this is the same person.
Regards JeanH
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Jean,
I have the William Ireland who was baptised in 1792 - son of Michael and Mary Ireland in my family tree.
According to my research his father Michael Ireland was born in 1767 in Wold Newton and married Mary Ellis year and place of birth unknown. Michael and Mary were married in 1791 in Willerby.
According to my research William Ireland born 1792 emigrated to Ontario, Canada sometime before 1820 when I have found the birth of his first child in Canada.
Michael Ireland's father Richard is the furthest I have managed so far to trace the Ireland line of my family tree.
Best Wishes
CJL
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Hello from Canada!!
I am furthering my Ireland Family research and have stumbled upon your posting in a search of antiqued maps of Yorkshire (go figure!)
Of course, I joined the forum and can now share with you my Ireland Family info.
I have my line of IRELANDS (nearly) completed to 1753 Wold Newton Yorkshire England with the birth of my G-G-G-G-Grandfather MOSES IRELAND.
Don't know if I can help here - but would love to give it a whirl. Micheal may have been a sibling or cousin of my Moses?? or one of the many Georges that followed!!
cheers
misha
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Misha,
A very warm welcome to Rootschat.
I would love to compare the information which we each have on the Ireland Family from Wold Newton.
Can you give me some futher information regarding Moses Ireland born in 1753 in Wold Newton. I have four Moses Irelands in my family tree but none of their years of births matches your Moses'.
The earliest Moses Ireland I have in my family tree is Moses Ireland born 1773 in Wold Newton.
I am sure that there is a connection between our two Ireland families as my earliest Ireland ancestors also came from Wold Newton.
I also have a transcript of Wold Newton Parish Registers.
Looking foward to hearing from you.
Best Wishes
CJL
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Good Morning,
Here is what I have about my Moses Ireland.
He was born March 07, 1753 in Wold Newton, Yorkshire, England,
died June 06, 1830 in Bempton, West Yorkshire, England.
Married FRANCES SAWDEN July 31, 1773 in Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England. She was born July 05, 1752 in Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England, and died February 24, 1824 in Bempton, West Yorkshire, England.
He was christened on his 20th birthday - March 7 1773 - just months before his marriage.
So MAYBE this is your Moses too??? as your notes indicate a Moses BORN the same year as my Moses was Christened (things like that happen in this arena of insanity)
children as follows:
1. i. RICHARD3 IRELAND, b. 1774, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England.
Christening: April 28, 1774, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England
2. ii. SUSANNAH IRELAND, b. 1776, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England.
3. iii. GEORGE IRELAND, b. 1778, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England;
d. March 31, 1847, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England. - (This is my first George)
4. iv. MARY IRELAND, b. 1779, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England;
d. November 09, 1824, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England.
5. v. ANN IRELAND, b. 1782, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England.
vi. WILLIAM IRELAND, b. 1784, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England.
More About WILLIAM IRELAND:
Christening: August 21, 1784, Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England
This is as far back as we have gotten. One of my uncles and the wife of a cousin and I have, at separate times been on this research.
I've LOVE to get further back than my Moses.
cheers
M
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Misha,
Thank you for supplying me with the information you have regarding Moses Ireland.
Can I ask what the source of your information is as to the christening for Moses in 1778 and also how you know that he was aged 20 at the time?
I have a transcript of Wold Newton Parish registers which covers this period in time and although I can find the baptism of Moses on the 7th March 1773, there is no reference to his age, only that his fathers name was Richard Ireland.
During this period in time there was a Richard Ireland who between 1759 and 1778 had a total of ten children all of whom were baptised in Wold Newton, In fact nigh on one every two years.
This Richard Ireland was my 5 times Great Grandfather.
I also have a transcript of Weaverthorpe Parish Registers which covers this period of time and have seen the marriage between Moses Ireland and Frances Sawden in 1773, but have never been able to make a definate link to my line of the Ireland family.
Looking forward to hearing from you again.
Best Wishes
CJL
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My pleasure, this is a primary paternal line for me and one that is of high interest to my research.
This research has been conducted by many people over the course of many years. My Great Uncle Garnet began it all well over 45 years ago. Most of the information I have has been handed from his work. My cousin Roger’s wife Teresa picked up the ball some 20 years ago and I started in on the project about 12-14 years now.
Both Teresa and I are members of an Ireland Surname research group which Y-DNA tests for lineage. The research group has members in the UK and they have been instrumental in clarifying some of the Ireland lines which are being researched. As a result of all this and the DNA project, I know this is my line.
The information I have offered here has been connected to parish records, and I have notes on confirmation up to, but not including my Moses. To date, my primary hitch to deepening my line has been this Moses. I haven’t been able to confirm his parentage.
On the note of his christening at 20 – PURE speculation (excitement) on my part. As my current records note he was born 20 yrs prior to marriage and children. Sincerely, after I posted that note, it occurred to me that there could well be document confusion (whacks forehead). However, I am fairly certain that my Moses was married and procreating by 1773 as we have been able to confirm his third child George as a grandparent to me.
I pulled up some old genfiles and noticed that in all cases, my notes will read NAME, SURNAME (FATHERS NAME/GRANDFATHERS NAME) For my Moses the original genfile reads: IRELAND, Moses (RICHARD).
All that to say, you may well have the link resolving the parentage of my Moses in your desk!!
exciting stuff here
Misha
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Misha,
I have sent you a personal message.
Best Wishes
CJL
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Hi
My research into Alfred Ireland (born England 1836) in Ontario finds me here as a recent discovery has led me to Weaverthorpe and Alfred is connected in some way to James Ireland born Weaverthorpe about 1818. Father George Ireland and mother Mary Featherstone. It looks as if James and Samuel (brother) migrated to Canada. James Ireland married Elizabeth Hewson in 1851 in Quebec but I cannot find Alfred Ireland with them and not sure if he is James' son or Elizabeth's from a previous marriage but James and Elizabeth are listed as Father and Mother on both Alfred's marriages (Ellen Hoover 1860 and Mary Jane Love 1865 - although he has changed his age on the second marriage). They all lived in King or thereabouts in York, Ontario in the 1870's. James and Elizabeth had a second son born in Ontario, Henry Hewson Ireland and he is easily traced but Alfred is proving a dilemma. I did find a migration for Elizabeth Hewson to Quebec with son and family between 1836-1850 so am trying to discover if Alfred Ireland was definitely and Ireland or whether he may have simply been adopted by James Ireland upon his marriage to Elizabeth. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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How are you connected to Alfred?
I've been scoping my files looking for a way to help you identify your Alfred. At first glance, it looks like this Alfred may be akin to my line, but my James Ireland did not marry in Quebec - none of my Irelands married in Quebec - although my James has a brother Samuel.
Then I started thinking on your dates and I wondered if your Alfred might actually be the son of an Elizabeth - who happens to be the sister of the brothers aforementioned.
In 1836 the brothers Samuel and James would have been but 15 and 18 years old while the sister Elizabeth would have been 25. These brothers and sister are just three of the 8 children born to George Ireland and Mary Featherstone. This is the group in my line that first arrived here in Canada.
If this assumption works, that would make Alfred the nephew of Samuel and James, grand child of George and Mary (Featherstone). Pure speculation on my part.
Unfortunately, I've stored my archive discs as I'd been renovating and only have my direct lines available on this computer, but will spend time in the next couple of weeks to dig up my discs - maybe a Thanksgiving weekend project - and check for that Alfred; my master file has the list of all the kids of the kids of the kids and so on and so on - I feel I remember seeing him (Alfred) somewhere in my geno.
I did scope out ancestry looking for George and Mary and their kids but found little of use.
We'll keep in touch
Misha
I really should invest in a family tree application eh? !!
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Hi Misha
Thanks for such a quick reply.
You probably remember an Alfred Ireland as Samuel and Caroline had an Alfred (aged 2 in the 1861 census of Canada).
There is a marriage for James Ireland and Elizabeth Hewson in 1851 in Quebec that is listed on Ancestry.ca and I also found her and Elizabeth Hewson with son and family in the 1836-1850 logs but no specific date. I have searched everywhere (online) for either an Alfred Hewson (various spellings) or Alfred Ireland born in England in 1836 but no luck. He may have been an illegitimate son of Elizabeth Hewson's that James Ireland took on upon marriage to Elizabeth?? I found Alfred Ireland born 1836 (parents James and Elizabeth) in a marriage to Ellen Hoover (parents Henry and Susannah) in 1860. I have also discovered they had a daughter Ellen Ireland in 1861. In the 1861 census Alfred is living near the Hoovers, the child aged 1 is living with them and Alfred is listed as widow so his wife must have died after childbirth. By 1865, Alfred Ireland has changed his age and married Mary Jane Love - my great grandmother. There is an incredible story (as with many of these old pioneering families) and I found on the Love website transcriptions of letters about Alfred and Mary. They went to Manitoulin in about 1874 for Alfred to work on the Henry mill at Kagawong. In 1876 Alfred died and in 1879 four of their five children died. I have, as yet, found no death registrations for them. Mary Jane Ireland (widow) and son William Henry Hudson Ireland (13) are still living in Manitoulin in the 1881 census. By 1891 Mary Jane is living in Elmvale, Simcoe with twin daughters Ida May Ireland and Grace Ireland born 1886. No birth registrations have been found but Ida May was my grandmother. William Henry Ireland stayed in Manitoulin and there are living descendants still there. Any help from your files would be greatly appreciated whenever you get the time. No rush of course. As with all of this ancestry research it will wait .... Take care. Dee
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Hello everyone. I stumbled upon this chat late this afternoon with great delight. We all seem to be from the same strain of Irelands. My brother has done extensive research leading back to Samuel Ireland emigrating to Canada. A lot of the family are buried in the Mount Laurel Cemetary in Bolton, Ontario. As soon as I find my info, I will share. Miss Misha, I also live in the ottawa area and am related to Moses Ireland as well. Small world!
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The Ireland line are my husband Roy Herbert's ancestors. So far the earliest I have is James Ireland born abt 1771 West Hesterton Yorkshire. I will willingly share my information with members of this extended family. If anyone is interested, could you please send me a private message with details of where to send this file. I posted a message some time ago on this site if anyone gets confused. Regards Jean Herbert
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Alfred Ireland is in my line. He was born 5 Sep 1859 in King Township, Died 03 Sep 1920 in Bolton, Ontario. He is the son of Samuel Ireland and Caroline Hill. Alfred Ireland married Frances Jane Clubine( born 03 Nov 1868 King township died 25 May 1933 Toronto) (daughter of William Henry Clubine & Lucy Brown) on 13 Dec 1888 Hope this helps anyone :)
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as for Moses Ireland, my notes have him born 20 June 1748 died 06 June 1830 in Bempton. He married Frances Sawden 31 July 1773. his father was Richard Ireland (no dates given) who married Barbara - no last name given for her.