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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: ZKT on Friday 22 May 09 21:09 BST (UK)
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Any suggestion on how i can identify the public house my GGgrandad ran in Pillory St Nantwich Cheshire in 1869. Can't find it on any census record (out of business by 1871) or the ocupation listings.
Any help gratefully received
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Hi ZKT,
What you need to do is get in touch with the Cheshire county records office. Under the Licensing Acts, 'Ale Houses Act 1551', 'Inns Act 1603' and the 'Alehouses Act 1792' all publicans had to be licensed by Justices of the Peace. Those granted licenses were kept on a list and held in the records of the Courts of Quarter Sessions which are held by the local county records office. When you look at the Cheshire Courts of Quarter Sessions for 1869 you should be able to match your great-granddad to the relevant public house.
Regards,
Goleudy
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Goleudy
Thanks for your lhelp. I will make a visit to chester to look for the records. Thanks again.
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As you probably cant do any visiting before next Thursday,And a person that had a pub is easier to find than a pub you don't know the name of.Have you had a look through the directories.Also the Cheshire directories there isn't any near 1869 though.Also have you looked in the gales newpaper.
http://cheshiredirectories.manuscripteye.com/index.htm
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/findbylocation.asp
Celia
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I will make a visit to Chester to look for the records. Thanks again.
Before you make a special visit check to see they have what you want. When they drafted the 1828 Licensing Act they missed out the bit that required Clerks of the Peace to keep licensing registers. This was not corrected until the 1872 Act - so records for 1869 tend to be scarcer than 1872 on or 1752-1828 (registers being first required in 1752).
In my area I have been unable to find any licencing records from 1729 to the 1920s - from 1729 Quarter Sessions had to hold special annual sessions for licensing - so the records disappear from Newbury's Quarter Session minutes at that time - and the licensing registers are lost.
The only licensing registers I have been able to find for Newbury are 1971-2005 (when licensing ceased to be a court matter). :( But I am still searching for them ...
The second issue is that the pub was there in 1869 - so it could well have been a beer house - and hence, effectively, unlicensed until the 1869 Licensing Act came into force.
But it is not all doom and gloom, many licensing records do exist - there is an excellent Gibson Guide - Licensed Victuallers Records that lists those held in county archives etc.
Other places to look are directories (though beer houses are often not named) and local papers.