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Title: Scottish records check list
Post by: daval57 on Friday 22 May 09 03:23 BST (UK)
Wouldn't it be great to have a basic check list of sites / things to search.  I don't mean obscure sites, just the obvious.

Perhaps, if folk agree, ideas could be added to this thread and someone (me?) can put it on a document in a logical manner.

I'm posting this only on the Scotland board for now because the sites / techniques are different from those elsewhere in the UK or overseas.

Dave



I'll start....
Some ideas which I'm sure people can add to......



International Genealogical Index (IGI) - a few different points of entry

http://www.originsnetwork.com/ScotsOrigins/SOUserHome.aspx

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=search_all1.asp&clear_form=true

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable



ScotlandsPeople (SP) -  10 free credits here - http://www.ancestralscotland.com/signup/register/

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Check for:
birth
marriage
death
will



Census records:

1841
1851
1861
1871
1881
1891
1901
1911

    Free BMD
    http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
    FreeCen
    http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
    Ancestry(various points of entry and ways to search)
    http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/

    http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx

    ScotlandsPeople (SP) - (for census, too expensive in my opinion)
   
    http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/



Monumental Inscriptions (MI's)

some on internet, others you are required to purchase or view in library, local FHS



Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC)

http://www.cwgc.org/



Local libraries
Mitchell library (Glasgow)
Park Circus (Glasgow)
Register House (Edinburgh)
Local registery offices
Local family history societies (FHS)
University archives
National Library of Scotland
( http://www.nls.uk/maps/ )
   Sasines ( http://www.nas.gov.uk/guides/sasines.asp )
Gazetteer for Scotland ( http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/ )
National Archives of Scotland (http://www.nas.gov.uk/doingResearch/default.asp )


Genealogical Forums



Search engines

Google, Yahoo etc (surprising what is out there on the www)



On each certificate / document check for other clues....

partner
parents
siblings
witnesses
children

Repeat the searches for those other family members found.


Dinnae forget common sense AND thinking 'outside the box'



PS - Mods - I'm sure you will not object to naming other sites in this instance.








Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: aspin on Friday 22 May 09 09:04 BST (UK)
Looks a good idea Dave


Elizabeth
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: Archivos on Friday 22 May 09 10:07 BST (UK)
Local archives could be added as well - they have original documents which haven't been published like burial registers, some church records and other valuable sources.  Most local authorities will have information on their websites about their archives service.  University archives are a good source too. 

Local registrars may also have family history sources, or will provide access. 
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: apanderson on Friday 22 May 09 10:08 BST (UK)
I agree with aspin - great idea Dave!

How many times have we all forgotten to add things to 'favourites' then can't remember where 'such and such' information was to be found?

Plus, if info isn't to be found on one site - there's always a chance it could be found on another so to have a 'checklist' handy as a reminder would help no end.

Anne
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: daval57 on Friday 22 May 09 11:03 BST (UK)
Local archives could be added as well - they have original documents which haven't been published like burial registers, some church records and other valuable sources.  Most local authorities will have information on their websites about their archives service.  University archives are a good source too. 

Local registrars may also have family history sources, or will provide access. 

Thanks Archivos - I thought I had that covered with..

"Local Libraries......Local family history societies"

University archives is a good one.  Local registry offices is an example of an obvious source I'd omitted.  I've amended the original post to include them. 

Dave

PS Welcome to Rootschat.
Thank you Elizabeth and Anne for your comments.
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: pancho on Saturday 23 May 09 01:39 BST (UK)
I agree Dave
Dave for president and wee Clare just as I remember her ah happy days  :)
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: Ron Lankshear on Saturday 23 May 09 02:14 BST (UK)
As I am around 3/32 Scottish this sounds a great idea.
Currently stuck on finding births for Ann BRAND (BRAN/BRANN on OPR) who married Wm Eagle in 1798 North Leith and Margaret PEARSON who married John Lankshear in London in 1808 but in 1851 shows born Scotland - around 1781/82. Currently doing some reviews with the 10 free credits.

Thanks for suggestions - I have added the IGI ideas to my page
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/fhlinks/scotland.htm

Here are some others I have

The National Archives of Scotland Home Page http://www.nas.gov.uk/

The Scottish Archive Network providing a gateway to a variety of information on Scottish archives, and on-line access to an index of Scottish Wills http://www.scan.org.uk/

Gazetteer for Scotland Scottish Towns, Villages, Places, People, Families
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/

The Midlothianshire, ScotlandGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sctmln/
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: Piglet01 on Saturday 23 May 09 14:47 BST (UK)
And a 'must'.

The NLS maps.

http://www.nls.uk/maps/

Regards, Steve
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: daval57 on Saturday 23 May 09 15:14 BST (UK)
Thanks Steve and Ron.
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: damnonii on Saturday 23 May 09 18:08 BST (UK)
Good idea Dave

General:
Statistical accounts of Scotland - http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/sas/sas.asp?action=public&passback=

3 musts for Glasgow:

1927 Directory - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glasgow/index-glas.htm
1787 Directory - http://www.glasgowhistory.co.uk/Books/1787Directory/DirectoryFrame.htm
Valuation Rolls 1913-14 - http://www.theglasgowstory.com/valindex.php

War:
Scottish National War Memorial  - www.snwm.org.uk

also useful is Geoff's search engine which has extra search fields for the cwgc database, e.g. you can search by general keyword. 
WW2 - http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search39-47.php
WW1 is currently down but should be back up http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search14-21.php

Evening Times roll of honour - http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Residents/Library_Services/Family_Local_History/eveningtimesrollofhonour.htm
Glasgow University roll of honour - http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/honour/

Newspapers? 
http://archive.scotsman.com/  (maybe mention that some people already have access here, it's extortionate)
Could mention under Mitchell that they have microfilms, Evening Times. Herald etc?
Edinburgh Gazette - http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/search  (also London http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search and Belfast http://www.belfast-gazette.co.uk/search)

Old Occupations?
http://www.scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=551&430

First names:
Scottish naming tradition? - I always forget it!
Common anglicisations?
Common diminuitives?
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?561

Surnames: (there's a lot of misinformation out there, these are the 2 most accurate I know of although I still wouldn't vouch for everything.)
http://www.ancestry.com/learn/facts/default.aspx  (can also get some georgraphical data)
www.surnamedb.com

Virtual Mitchell?
http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/

Will update if I think of more! 


Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: Aidem62 on Saturday 23 May 09 23:09 BST (UK)
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/

The Scottish War Memorials project is an excellent site to add to this list.

Best wishes

aidem
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: apanderson on Saturday 23 May 09 23:13 BST (UK)
And not forgetting the above's 'sister' site, Scottish War Graves Project:

http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/index.php?mforum=scottishwargraves

Anne
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: damnonii on Saturday 23 May 09 23:14 BST (UK)
and a certain other gravestone index ;)
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: daval57 on Saturday 23 May 09 23:22 BST (UK)
Almost forgot damnonii

http://www.memento-mori.co.uk/

Thanks for these links all.  I'll update original post tomorrow as I'm at Mum's tonight and need to go keep her company.

Dave
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: Boongie Pam on Sunday 24 May 09 10:50 BST (UK)
Thank you all this is very useful but some links etc duplicate what is already on the "Where do I start" thread here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

There some other basic where to get info stickied at the top of the board.  Plus we have a full Resources board here...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,367.0.html

Please do a search on the URL you intend to post as multiple links out of RC I believe deteriorates our Google rating and we get punted down the results returns.  So people won't find us.

All the best,
Pam
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: daval57 on Sunday 24 May 09 13:58 BST (UK)
Hi Pam,
Are you 'suggesting' to us that we abandon this thread?

I thought it would be good to have all links in one place.

Dave
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: Aberdeen Archives on Monday 25 May 09 13:03 BST (UK)
Local archives could be added as well - they have original documents which haven't been published like burial registers, some church records and other valuable sources.  Most local authorities will have information on their websites about their archives service.  University archives are a good source too. 

Local registrars may also have family history sources, or will provide access. 
Thanks Archivos - I thought I had that covered with..

"Local Libraries......Local family history societies"

University archives is a good one.  Local registry offices is an example of an obvious source I'd omitted.  I've amended the original post to include them. 

Dave

PS Welcome to Rootschat.
Thank you Elizabeth and Anne for your comments.
Archives and libraries are not the same though.  Some local archives will be based in a library building (I think the Mitchell is like this, as is Perth & Kinross) but most are not and have completely different sources.  A good local library should tell people wanting to look at original documents about their local archive.  The local archive is where you can flesh out the bones of your family history!  It's amazing what can be found in unpublished, untranscribed sources.
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: prophetess on Monday 25 May 09 13:19 BST (UK)
I think it's an brill idea Dave,

Ment to post sooner but lost the thread

Syb
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: Boongie Pam on Monday 25 May 09 22:40 BST (UK)
All I am saying is duplication of threads many times damages Rootschat.
Title: Re: Scottish records check list
Post by: daval57 on Wednesday 27 May 09 03:24 BST (UK)
All I am saying is duplication of threads many times damages Rootschat.


Thanks for the clarification Pam.
I thought for a while you were 'telling us off'.  :o
I should have known better.  We know you're not like that.

I realise a lot of the links have been posted before.  However, they do tend to get lost amongst some other 'stuff'.

I'm not convinced that 'duplication of threads' will 'damage' Rootschat.  Google and other search engines don't work that way. 

However, and in any case, this is not a duplicate thread, I'm simply trying to compile a comprehensive list, in one place, of up to date resources we can all use for Scottish research.

I'm glad you are not asking us to abandon this thread - it does seem popular.


Anyway folks, I'm off to kip now but will come back over the next couple of days to add your links to the original post.

Dave.


Added - thanks for the input everyone.
D