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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: chillertwist on Wednesday 20 May 09 20:04 BST (UK)
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Hiya
I'm trying to find any details on a Sarah E Whyberd, born in Poplar around 1815. The surname could vary a little.....I have seen Whybred and Whybread as alternative surnames on other people's family trees. However, Whyberd is on her marriage record.
All I know is that she married a policeman called George Grim in 1838 and they stayed living in Poplar.
If anyone has access to the 1821 or 1831 census, please could you see if she is in the area. I would love to find out who her parents were.
Thank you
Jade
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I dont think there is an 1821 or 31 census - at least not with names on it, there were some early ones with just numbers of people.
First meaningful census is 1841.
If you send for her marriage cert hopefully it will give name and occupation of her father
Marriage
Oct/Nov/Dec 1838
Poplar 2 295
Sarah Whyberd
one of grooms George Grim
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George didnt stay a policeman
1851
46 Wade Street Poplar
George Grim 38 Carman bn Stepney
Sarah 35 bn poplar
George D 9 bn Limehouse
Sarah S 6 bn Limehouse
JAmes 3 bn Stepney
Thomas 11 mths bn Poplar
Richard Hodges visitor 60 wid saddle maker bn Somerset
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1841
HO107 701 7
Dalgleish Street Stepney
George Grim 30 constable
Sarah 25
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Thank you very much Liz. I didn't realise that the 1831 census didn't have names on it so looks like I will be at a dead end without that marriage certificate.
Thanks for the reference and for the census lookups. I will get that certificate ordered and hopefully it will get things kick started!
Jade
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The early censuses only have names of head of household.
I found
1821 census Poplar
Thos Wybert 11 Regent Street West 8males 7 females
1831 Poplar
Whybard Thos Regent Street Barge builder 5m 4f
1821 Hackney
Whybrow William Morning Lane, Church Street 2m2f
nothing in 1811 Hackney
This is all the information given in those censuses.
Not very helpful but may be later. I looked at all names beginning with W to find anything similar
Good luck
Sylviaann
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Thank you Silviaann. It is quite possible that your census info relates to the same family because Sarah Whyberd married George Grim, who resided in number 7 Regent Street. Perhaps this is how they met!
I'm still at a loss with the correct spelling of the surname but will keep digging.
Thanks again!
Jade
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You always have to be a bit fluid with the spellings I'm afraid. My Gooch family are down as Googe and Gouch and even my Middletons have been found under Myddleton
Good luck
Sylviaann
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Hi Jade,Sarah's parents were Thomas (1786-1865) & Hannah Ann (?1786-1859) Whyberd.Hannah's maiden name may possibly have been Whyberd and if this is the case then she and Thomas were cousins and both from Albury,Hertforsdhire.
Her grandparents were John (1755-1840) and Sarah (b ?-1791) Whyberd (nee Smith)
Her great grandparents were Richard Wybard/Whybird and Ann (nee Clark) who were married in 1749 at Furneaux Pelham,Hertfordshire.
Sarah's siblings were
Thomas b 1809,married 1833 Rebecca Holland
John ( 1811-1880), married 1834 Sarah Ann Appleford. (My gt,gt,gt grandparents)
Lichfield (1813-1853) ,married Elizabeth Fensom
Susannah b 1818; married 1845 Thomas John Curd
Daniel b 1820,married 1) 1844 Susannah Say 2) 1850 Ellen Nevel (nee Cocking)
James (1823-1842)
Hannah b1826,married 1847 Thomas Murray
Alfred b 1827,married 1848 Ann Elizabeth Murray Morris (*)
Many of the later Whyberd's who settled in London were barge builders and shipwrights.As far as I know all the Whyberd's/Whybirds are related.There are many variants of the name which can make them hard to track down.
I hope this information helps.I have a large Whyberd family tree and am happy to share what information I have if you want to get in touch.Best wishes.Jane (Whyberd)
(*) Moderator comment: Surname amended
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Hi, Oops I just noticed an error which I tried unsuccessfully to correct.Alfred Whyberd was married to Ann Elizabeth Morris not Murray.
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Thank you so much Jane!!! I really was at a dead end with Sarah Whyberd and couldn't find much about her at all. Seems you have been very successful in your research and know a lot about the family.
All the info you have provided is extremely helpful and fills in a lot of blanks on my tree! :D
It's nice to know that the Whyberd name still survives and the spelling hasn't changed again!
Thank you again Jane, and I may well be in touch in the future if I get any more problems with my research.
Kind regards,
Jade :)
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Nice to meet other people descended from the Whyberd family :D
Carswell, if you're still using this board i'd love to have a chat! I think i'm a descendant of John Whyberd and Sarah Ann Appleford too! :)
I can be contacted on email lauramchallis@hotmail.co.uk