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Title: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: forestcity38 on Wednesday 20 May 09 17:50 BST (UK)
I am looking for the immiration of Harry Billinghurst and family. They are in West Ham Essex in 1891. In April 1899 he is a teacher  at Pellaring Flat School. I could not find the family on Ancestors on Board. They lived in SA Australia
sorry I put this in wrong place Please delete
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Title: Re: Immigration
Post by: cando on Thursday 21 May 09 02:51 BST (UK)
I thought I had found his passenger record into Aus but it was a year after he married in SA :(

Marriage in South Aus
BILLINGHURST Harry  22  Single Father Onslow James BILLINGHURST
WIDDICOMBE Emma Nicholls 23 years  Single Father Henry WIDDICOMBE
20 Jun 1886
At St Mary Church Burra  Bur 147/916

Death
BILLINGHURST Harry
12 Jan1937  72 years Married  No relative noted
Residence Glenelg   Death Place Glenelg   Ade H587/128

There are three files each on Harry and Emma on
http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/research/condon/teachers/TEACHERS-list.asp?SurnameLetter=B

He was not enrolled to vote in South Australia in 1909.

Do you need any other information in SA?

Cheers
Cando




Title: Re: Immigration
Post by: cando on Thursday 21 May 09 04:50 BST (UK)
On the 1891 census you will note that his wife Emma was born in Australia.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: forestcity38 on Thursday 21 May 09 10:57 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info. I have his second marriage. Took place in england.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Thursday 21 May 09 11:17 BST (UK)
Emma his first wife, died in 1918.

There is this marriage in South Australia in 1922.

BILLINGHURST Harry 57 years  Widower  Father Onslow James BILLINGHURST
PATTERSON Louisa Ethel  60 years  Widow  Father George Cooper CROCOTT
7 Feb 1922
At St Pauls Church Adelaide   Ade S 290/334

Harry died in 1937 and Louise Ethel in 1938.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Thursday 21 May 09 11:36 BST (UK)
You may be interested in the following

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/records/archives/guide/0375.htm

Harry Billinghurst - Lecturer - Obituary

This item contains 1 newspaper obituary article, titled:
- Obituary - Mr. Harry Billinghurst.
Date Range 1937    Quantity 0.1 cm, 1 article
Inventory Identifier 037500117 Box Number 6 Series 375

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: forestcity38 on Thursday 21 May 09 11:52 BST (UK)
Thanks again I had found that. Too bad it ddn't give the years he was a lecturer. He was also in the police force for a year.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Thursday 21 May 09 11:54 BST (UK)
I am wondering about the 2nd marriage you say was in England?  Reply#3

There is the marriage I detailed in South Australia in 1922.  Reply#4

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: forestcity38 on Thursday 21 May 09 12:08 BST (UK)
Yes, I am confused too. I may have had the wrong Harry B. in England. I saw a marriage to a Beatrice E. Garrett. She was quite young. This took place June qtr 1919. Was thinking he needed someone to help take care of the children.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Thursday 21 May 09 23:08 BST (UK)
Does it mention his family in his obituary?

The marriage in Adelaide, SA matches his age and he and his 2nd wife Louisa Ethel both lived and died at Glenelg.

Do you need any further information on his children in South Australia?  The youngest, Gytha Daphne would have been 15 years, ? Frank Kenneth 21, Eric Lionel 23,  Strephon Chestle 28, Phyllis Widdicombe 30, Harry Onslow 31 years  in 1918 at time of Ellen's death.

http://www.centennialpark.org/burial_memorial_search/
# BILLINGHURST Eric Lionel from STEPNEY
# BILLINGHURST Frank Kenneth from GLEN OSMOND 
# BILLINGHURST, Gytha Daphne from GLENUNGA


http://www.lehunte.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=2628
BILLINGHURST, Stephen Casle
Minnipa Cemetery
Protestant
Grave   19
Last Residence   Minnipa
Age at Death    56 years
Cause of Death Heart Failure
Date of Burial    8 Jun 1946


Cheers
Cando

Edit Strike out incorrect records.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Friday 22 May 09 00:43 BST (UK)
I notice on the http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home website that the Adelaide Advertiser is 'being processed' and will be online soon.

There are a few snippets [not available yet] about Harry's University exam results in 1902.
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?searchTerm=billinghurst&textSearchScope=full&facet=titleid:34

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: ennael on Friday 22 May 09 00:46 BST (UK)
if it wasn't noticed before , there is also an entry for Phyllis Widdicombe on the teachers site  given by Cando.

Leanne
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Friday 22 May 09 00:58 BST (UK)
Yes it was noticed ;D

I didn't mention it as I am not sure how much information is already known about this family eg there are three  births in the UK the last being in 1894 for Eric Lionel.  This would narrow the time frame for the return trip to Australia.

There are also marriages and  deaths of spouses, but this information may also be known.

Eric Lionel has a digitised service record on
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Friday 22 May 09 01:12 BST (UK)
There is also a service record for a Frank Kenneth b. 1910 Melbourne with NOK wife Joyce, who are be buried at Centennial Park, so this Frank Kenneth is obviously not one of Harry's children. 

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 22 May 09 01:34 BST (UK)
Harry and Louise made a trip to London in 1936, presumably not a long trip as he died in Jan 1937

Listed aboard the ORFORD travelling from Adelaide to London arriving 4 June 1936

BILLINGHURST
  Mr H 72 Accountant
BILLINGHURST L E 76 Home Duties
address in UK C/O Consul General for South Australia, British Industries House Marble Arch

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Friday 22 May 09 01:57 BST (UK)
A chequered career for Harry B - Engineering Student in the 1881 census, [Beer] Off Licence House Keeper and Grocer in the 1891 census, School teacher, Uni lecturer, member of the Police Force and finally Accountant in 1937.

Cheers
Cando

Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 22 May 09 02:45 BST (UK)
Does appear he was a man of many talents for sure Cando

Resigned from the Police Force just after his first marriage

Police Gazette 7 July 1886

Mounted Police

A G Newnham and H Billinghurst from the 30th ultimo.

22 Dec similar entry of resignation J Billinghurst from the 30th ultimo.

another entry from Feb 9 1887 Mounted police resignations J Billinghurst from Nov 30 1886

also note a MC Billinghurst was performing police duties during this period.

Police Gazette 14 Jan 1885

Appointments in the Police Force

Mounted police

Dennis Sullivan, Harry Billinghurst and James Billinghurst to be constables from the 1st instant inclusive

Police Gazette 10 Aug 1887

disembursements

Mounted Constable Billinghurst J £20 2 11

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Sunday 24 May 09 14:14 BST (UK)
Harry BILLINGHURST and his first wife Emma Nicholls, are buried at the Mitcham Anglican Cemetery on Old Belair Road, Mitcham.

Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: forestcity38 on Monday 25 May 09 01:53 BST (UK)
Hi again: I thank you for all you have given me.I know that Strephon C. Billinghurst had the name of Florence Billinghurst as next of kin on his service records. Would this be his wife, and if so did they remain married. Came across a death for a Florence.I had found Phyllis's teaching records. Figured she married  then. If you have time I certainly would like to have the records. As for the Hobart  one I don't think they are connected to "My Family" The James Billinghurst that was a policeman was, but I am sure he went back to England.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 25 May 09 02:17 BST (UK)
Hi,

Here are the marriages

BILLINGHURST Strephon Chestle 36 single father Harry = KARGER Florence Eleanore 29 single father Johan Ernst 23 Feb 1926 St Johns Church Laura Dist Cla 306 583

1 birth - details PM'd

BILLINGHURST Eric Lionel 33 single father Harry = RAMSDEN Catherine 42 widow father Thomas Boston 21 Mar 1928 St Marys Church Penola Dist Gre 314 885

TILBROOK Wilson Forrester 33 single father John Stalley = BILLINGHURST Phyllis Widdicombe 32 Single father Harry 19 Apr 1921 St Augustines Church Unley Dist Ade 287 276

no births

SA Marriages cutoff is 1937 and birth cutoff is 1928

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 25 May 09 02:29 BST (UK)
By the way I did check to see if If there were and BMDs listed for James when I found him mentioned in the Police Gazette, but saw nothing so good to know he went back to England.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Monday 25 May 09 04:32 BST (UK)
I didn't detail any further information as I didn't wish to duplicate information known to you :)

You may gain a little more information on the databases for Govt Gazettes, Newspapers announcements and Cemetery records on

http://www.saghs.org.au/graves.htm

On the Govt Gazette database -

TILBROOK Phyllis Widdicombe
Source date D 1976

Copies of any items are available for a small fee.   Request form available on the website.

Wilson and Phyllis TILBROOK and Catherine and Florence are  also buried at Centennial Park.
http://www.centennialpark.org/burial_memorial_search/

There are only 11 BILLINGHURST listings in South Australia on
http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/initResSearch.do

Perhaps one or two are descendants.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: forestcity38 on Monday 25 May 09 17:21 BST (UK)
As for James Billinghurst. He is in the 1891 census in England and also the 1901 census. He married Grace Billinghurst in 1889 in Edmonton, Eng.  Grace was Harry's sister. James was Harry's cousin. James died 1942 Staines.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 25 May 09 23:03 BST (UK)
Harry BILLINGHURST and his first wife Emma Nicholls, are buried at the Mitcham Anglican Cemetery on Old Belair Road, Mitcham.

Cando

you  can purchase a photo of  the headstone for $1.00
http://gravesecrets.weebly.com/

Jenn
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: forestcity38 on Tuesday 26 May 09 11:21 BST (UK)
Yes, I intend to do that. thanks.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: rld22 on Monday 31 January 11 21:29 GMT (UK)
Is this topic still open? I am a descendant of Harry Billinghurst from South Australia.
Title: Re: Immigration - Harry BILLINGHURST
Post by: cando on Wednesday 02 February 11 05:49 GMT (UK)
Hi ridd22  :)

Welcome to rootschat  :)

Jenn [forestcity38] has not been logged in to rootschat since Sep 15, 2009 and on her initial request she has posted -   Completed.

Cheers
Cando