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Title: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Wednesday 20 May 09 15:59 BST (UK)
Hello all,

I am really really stuck at the moment as I can't find the birth record for my gt gt grandfather Pat Hoban.

  We had always thought that our Hoban's came from a small village called Capparanny which is Co. Mayo, not far from Castlebar, however I have learned that my gt gt grandfather Pat did not; my gt grandfather Denis Hoban was born there along with his brothers and sisters but prior to 1870s there were no Hoban's born there.

I have Pat Hoban on both the 1901 & 1911 census but they don't really help as one says he was born in 1845 and the other suggest 1839!! Pat's father was Thomas Hoban but I don't know his mothers name.  Pat was married twice; his first marriage may have been to an Ann/e Walsh/e and his second marriage was definitely to a Mary Flanagan in 1880.

I've just got back from Ireland and I went to Capparanny and I only found a grave for one of Pat's sons and not him!

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I go next?

Many thanks

Claire
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: dee melody on Wednesday 20 May 09 16:07 BST (UK)
Claire, have you searched on this site:  There are lots of Hoban's listed.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start 

Did you go to the North &/or South Mayo Heritage Centres when you were in Ireland to check the records?

Dee
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: dee melody on Wednesday 20 May 09 16:21 BST (UK)
I have sent you a pm.  On brsgenealogy there are 2 other Hoban's.

Patrick Hoban 1843 County Mayo

Patrick Hoban 1845 County Mayo

both are Church Baptisms.  I have a feeling both of their father's are also Thomas Hoban!!!

And don't forget Griffiths:

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php



dee
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Wednesday 20 May 09 16:49 BST (UK)
Hello,

I didn't visit the family centres but I use two websites that they are connected to.

The Griffiths isn't that helpful as I wouldn't know if I was looking at the correct person.  Thomas and Patrick are very popular in all the Hoban families, lol.

I know Patrick was alive in 1919 as he attend the wedding of his son Denis in Birmingham, UK so i thought i might find his grave but i didn't.

I'm going round and round in circles!

Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: DympJoyce on Thursday 04 June 09 20:52 BST (UK)
Claire

Just wondering if you looked up the 1901 Census for some familiar names,

Hoban is a common enough name for Mayo, the ones I know of are in Manulla, Newport, Westport.

(Just insert County = Mayo
      + Surname + First Name.....Leave out Parish, Towland etc and you might see familiar names

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/census.shtml

Good Luck with your research
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Friday 05 June 09 08:42 BST (UK)
Dear DympJoyce,

Yes i have looked up both my gt grandfather Denis and my Gt Gt grandfather Patt on the 1901 census and the 1911. I did mention this in my original post  - I don't see your point sorry?

Regards

Claire
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: DympJoyce on Friday 05 June 09 09:16 BST (UK)
Claire

I just meant that Hobans may have originated from other towlands, and married into the area.

I live near Turlough but know of no Hobans around there.  If you do come up with a village I could check the cemeteries there for you.
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Friday 05 June 09 12:23 BST (UK)
Hello,

They come from Capparanny and there are no Hoban's there anymore; I was there last month and I found my gt grandfather's brother (Stephen Hoban) burried in the cemetary by the tower.

My gt gt grandfather Patt states on his marriage certificate in 1880 that he is from Capparanny.  I think it is possible that they came originally from Castlebar but I haven't found anything to support this.   :(
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: Jack2227 on Friday 05 June 09 13:40 BST (UK)
(by kind permission of Noel Farrell)
Castlebar & Westport Roots 1901;

Westport, Ardmore (1)
Hoban Patrick & Bridget; Thomas, Timothy, (posting estb)

Castlebar, Bridget st (7)
Hoban James, Bridget, Mary. (pub & shop)

Westport, Cloonmonad (Westport Quay) (25)
Hoban Honor;
(84)
Hoban Bridget, Patrick, Kate, Bridget (pub manager)

Castlebar, Ellison st (26)
Hoban Thomas & Bridget; James, Michael, Annie, Thomas, Mary, John (ex shopkeeper)

Westport, John's row (19)
Hoban Austin & Jane; Bridget, Sarah, Thomas, Mary, John, (nailor)
(22)
Hoban John; (nailor)

Castlebar, Knockaphunta;
Hoban Norah, Michael, Thomas, Bridget, Annie, Sarah

Westport, Monument st (5)
Hoban Timothy & Margaret; Mary, Michael, Willia, Anne, Rose. (mason)

Westport, Quay st new (5)
Hoban Patrick & Catherine; MaryKate, Julia, Margaret, John (carpenter & mason)

Castlebar, Snugborough;
HOBIN William & Winifred; Mary, Bridget, Ellen, Nora, Annie, James.

HOBIN Bridget; (seamstress)

Westport, Shop st (15)
Hoban Michael, Timothy, Thomas, Bridget, Maryanne. (bookkeeper)

Castlebar, Tucker st (15)
Hoban John & Catherine; Timothy, Michael, Annie, Mary, Patrick, John, Henry Catherine, Philip (blacksmith)

Westport, Tober hill (47)
Hoban Michael & Maria (mason)
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Friday 05 June 09 14:08 BST (UK)
Thanks for posting that but it doesn't help as I don't know which (if any) would be connected to my family.

My gt gt gt grandfather Thomas Hoban (Patt's father) was dead before 1880.  And in 1901 Patt was in Capparanny.

Thanks anyway
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Tuesday 09 June 09 16:03 BST (UK)
We have a break through!!

I have just discovered that Patt and Mary's first child Martin Hoban b. 1882 was baptised in the parish of Keelogues NOT Capparanny!

Thanks for all your help

Claire
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: DympJoyce on Tuesday 09 June 09 17:11 BST (UK)
That great Claire.....Well Done

If you need any photographs of Gravestones let me know, and I will gladly get them for you

Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Wednesday 10 June 09 08:43 BST (UK)
DympJoyce,

Is Keelogues another spelling for Keeloges in the parish of Kildacommage and is Keelcol another alternative or a different place?
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: DympJoyce on Wednesday 10 June 09 13:10 BST (UK)
Claire


The Keelogues that I know is near Turlough, so it makes sense.  It is between Ballyvary and Manulla.  Their is a Church there so that would be why the baptism is registered there. 
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Wednesday 10 June 09 13:35 BST (UK)
Many thanks.

Another thing; is there a cemetary connected to that Church as this might explain where Patt is burried.
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Wednesday 10 June 09 16:09 BST (UK)
Could anyone shed any light on where this place might be:

Cullannin - it is in the address section of a marriage record for my gt gt grandfather Pat Hoban.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: DympJoyce on Wednesday 10 June 09 19:58 BST (UK)
Claire

Drove out to Keelogues, Church there is St Josephs.  The only headstones here are ones of the Clergy that have passed.  I asked a few people but don't think they were locals, only knew of the Turlough Graveyard.

I will check it out and get back to you
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: ClaireHoban on Thursday 11 June 09 08:39 BST (UK)
DympJoyce,

You're very kind; thank you for all your help. 

Another questions (sorry!) is there a list of those who are buried in the graveyard by the tower as when I was there at the beginning of May I couldn't read all the headstones.

Many thanks

Claire
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: DympJoyce on Monday 15 June 09 21:40 BST (UK)
Just incase anyone else is interested in the thread, there is also a cemetery in Keelogues.  approx I mile from the Parish Church, St Patricks in Keelogues. 

Claire, sent you PM
Title: Re: Help needed on the Hoban family
Post by: 2flyy4u on Sunday 07 July 24 23:55 BST (UK)
Hello, I may be of SOME assistance. It seems I may be a family member of yours. A little back story-My mom was adopted and never knew her family (she was a baby), the adoption was a closed adoption. She's now in her 60's, and I decided to do a 23 & me on my son ( as I knew it would show family for both his dad and I), and to our surprise, my mom's family is shown. They have the family names of Coyne, Hoban, Kelly, just to name a few. They also have roots within the area you have traveled to as well as Galway. I'd Love to connect. I was told she is the lost baby sister they have been searching for as they were split up in the orphanage (there were 5).