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I have Michael Coupland who was born 28 April 1788 in Kendal, Westmorland.
According to the IGI his parents were Michael Coupland and Mary? By using the IGI I have managed to find three other children born to Michael and Mary, - John, Peggy and Robert. There was also James & Isabel and Francis & Sarah who were living in Kendal and having children at the same time.
I have a book that Michael wrote by hand in 1816 and this has his wifes name as Jane C with her birth as August 16 1789.
Unfortunately this does not match when I do a search for a marriage between Michael and Jane on the IGI. The one result that I get is for Michael to Jane McKenzie in 1819 in Saint Martin in the Fields, Westminster, London.
This could be the correct marriage as the book states that they had four children - Mary, Jane, Robert, William Edward.
Can someone please help with where to look to confirm the surnames of both Michael and his father?
Thanks Vicki
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Hi Vicky,
Firstly, in respect of the 1819 marriage, I suspect there will probably be another marriage in the Kendal area as I know from personal experience that there are a lot missing from the IGI.
I dont know how well you know Kendal, but the Parish of Kendal is extremely large (covering about 75 square miles), and when the IGI states Kendal it means the Parish of Kendal not the town of Kendal.
I would recommend that you find out exactly where the baptisms occured. If you email Kendal Record Office, they will undertake a small enquiry (10 mins) free of charge if you ask them nicely! You could then find out if they were living in the town of one of the many outlying villages.
If Michael wrote a book by hand it may suggest that he had been well educated. Do you know his profession or that of his father? Also, were Michael & Jane on the 1851 census?
Dickie
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Hi
Thanks for the suggestion to email the Kendal Record Office, they were very prompt in replying to confirm the existence of the baptism record.
The baptism occurred in the Kendal Holy Trinity Church. I have requested information with regards to obtaining a copy of the record and the cost.
On the marriage certificate for Jane Coupland to Thomas Bennick Harding in July 1848, Michael's occupation is given as engineer.
In the front of the book that Michael wrote is a testimonial written by Joseph Saul.
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Hi,
I'm not sure what info you have so here goes :)
Baptisms
With parents Michael (Millwright) and Jane COUPLAND,
Mary COUPLAND
03 Feb 1822
Abode: Tooting
Parish: Saint Nicholas, Tooting Graveney, Wandsworth, Middlesex
Jane COUPLAND
DOB: 23 Jul 1823
27 Apr 1828
Essex St
Parish: Saint Saviour, Southwark, Middlesex
Robert COUPLAND
DOB: 04 April 1828
27 Apr 1828
Parish: Saint Saviour, Southwark, Middlesex
Essex St
William Edward COUPLAND
DOB: 19 November 1830
05 June 1831
Saint Saviour, Southwark, Middlesex
Essex St
Marriage
Robert COUPLAND Dec Q 1847 Hackney 3 154
Ann Sarah SMITH with same details.
19 Dec 1847, Saint John At Hackney
Robert COUPLAND
Full Age
Bachelor
Engineer
Father Name: Michael COUPLAND, Engineer
Residence: London Fields
Ann Sarah SMITH
Full Age
Spinster
Father's Name: James SMITH, Schoolmaster
Residence: London Fields
1851 HO107/1538 f.264 p.22 Shoreditch
3 Alfred Terrace
Mic COUPLAND Head M 62 Millwright Westmorland Kendal
Jane Wife M 61 Invalid Cumberland Carlisle
Robert Son M 28 Engineer Southwell boro
Ann S Wife M 23 Domestic Duties Middx Shoreditch
Ann E Daur 3 At Home " "
1861 RG9/248 f.97 p.32 Shoreditch, Middlesex
3 Alfred Place
Jane COUPLAND W 71 Cumberland Carlisle
William E " Son U 30 London City Missionary Surrey Southwark
Ann E " GranD 12 Middx Shoreditch
George SMITH Boarder U 40 Carpenter Labourer Dorsetshire Sherborne
Death
Jane McKenzie COUPLAND Age: 78 Jun Q 1868 Pancras 1b 26
Oh and I found this which could be Michael's parents,
Marriage
Michael COUPLAND
Mary WILSON
1781
Kendal, Westmoreland
Hope this helps,
Daisy
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Hi Daisy
Thank you so very, very much for this info. I have been working on a branch of my family for the last month and have almost managed to break down a brick wall.
Can I ask where you found the information, so that I can include the source?
Regards Vicki
:D
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Hi,
I found the marriage of Michael Snr here,
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07n6/
The baptisms are from 'London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906'.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07n8/
The marriage is from 'London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921' this also has Jane's marriage and a later marriage for Robert (Wid), let me know if you need these.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07n7/
You might need a subscription to see these but I think it would be worth getting a free trial to see the original images :)
The death comes from the GRO index.
Daisy