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any offers please.
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Hi Khonalan,
Would you like to tell us what you want to know, and what information you already have about him, and a rough idea of date/place of birth would help
I can see a Robert Reece b 1823 Sunderland on the 1881 census, is this the man? http://www.rootschat.com/links/06b0/
Do you have access to census?
Barbara :)
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Is this him in 81 census
Robert Reece 58 mariner b Sunderland Durham
Elizabeth 58 wife b ditto
4 Darcy Terrace Bishop Wearmouth
RG11 4997/40/73
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That's the one I gave the link to, Isobel, (I must have added it after your reply) :)
but there's also a more recent one b.1898 Gateshead, so wasn't sure which would be right, or exactly what was wanted!
Barbara :)
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Looks like same man in 61
Robert Reece 39 master mariner b Sunderland
Elizabeth 38 wife b ditto
Isabella Marrington 9 relation b ditto
1 Fore Street Bishop Wearmouth
RG9 3774/73/16
Sorry about that Barbara.
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No I think I edited my reply, either after or while you were posting
I think from previous posts, khonalan has access to census, so not sure what information is wanted
Barbara :)
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master mariner, is correct.
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hi you guys, i would like to go back and forward.
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back, leads us to a shipyard in swansea, forward, we may finish up in australia.
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hi you guys - there are lots of rumors about r.r. eg ,ship being torpedoed , tea plantions somewhere. the masons. alderman, ect - just thought i might get at the truth. any offers please.
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hi you guys - there are lots of rumors about r.r. eg ,ship being torpedoed , tea plantions somewhere. the masons. alderman, ect - just thought i might get at the truth. any offers please.
Offers are difficult without some idea of date. Torpedoes, as we think of them today, are not going to fit in very well with someone born in 1823 for instance. Pretty rare at that time. You obviously know more so do tell us!
Andrea
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hi sillgen, sorry, do,nt know the name of the ship, or date,all i have is a medal inscribed, to kt r. reece, no 36 sunderland enct, services to king and country; front says european war 1914-1919, i think this is the masons.
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Are you sure we are on the right man,he would have been in his 90s in WW1
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p.s. igi, robert reece christing 5 july 1871, parents, john reece. catherine ann baxter, spouse isabella sarah thompson, m , 27 july 1897, bish,, th. is this correct please.
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Khonalan
I really do think you are just grasping at straws here without any real foundation for your research. It took me some time to work out your latest post as I did not understand the abbreviations. bish?? Eventually I looked on the IGI and found that you meant a record from Bishopwearmouth. That particular record is a member submitted one so you would need to check the original entry to make sure it is accurate. The IGI has relatively poor coverage for Durham anyway so there are dozens of other churches where he could have been baptised.
If all you know about this man is the medal can I suggest you post a photograph of it on the Armed Forces board and see if anyone can recognise it? If they establish that it is a mason's medal, rather than military, as you suggest then you can try contacting the appropriate lodge.
There are too many possible Robert Reece, without considering alternative spelling of Rees, for us to be sure which one this man is without further positive information. How does he fit in your tree?
Andrea
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hi sillgen, capain robert reece was my grandfather, however, if you think its not worth looking up, then i will give up and close this posting. thanks khonalan.
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If he is your grandfather do you know his date and place of death? Getting that certificate should be a first step. It will give his approximate age and then we know where to start looking for a birth. Who did he marry? That certificate would help a lot too.
Andrea
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hi sillgen, re; robert reece, entry of birth says, 15 june 1871, 21 mesham ? square ,father john rece ?, mother cathrine ann rece, formerly baxter, occupation of father, seaman merchant service. sorry, i do not have the death certificate, many thanks.
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Hi Khonalan
marriage registration: Jun 1861 Sunderland 10a 602
BAXTER Catherine Ann and on same page REECE John
1871 RG10/5014 fol. 12 p.20
21½ Neesham Square, Sunderland
REES
John head mar 31 Seaman
Catherine wife mar 30 Seaman's wife
Ann dau 2
all born Sunderland
possible death registrations:
Jun 1873 Sunderland 10a 350 REECE Anne Baxter aged 4
Mar 1878 Sunderland 10a 346 REECE Catherine Ann aged 37
1881 RG11/4997 fol.14 p. 26 Christopher Street, Sunderland
John WAYMAN head mar 53 Shipwright
Jane W. " wife mar 47
Paul " son 14
Robert REES nephew 10
all born Sunderland
1891 RG12/4138 fol.35 p.63
26 Christopher Street, Sunderland
John WAYMAN head mar 62 Shipwright
Jane " wife mar 57
David REECE brother in law unm 55 Seaman
all born Sunderland
Barbara
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Hi Khonalan
It would have helped if you'd given us all the information you had to begin with! :)
marriage registration: Sep 1897 Sunderland 10a 876
REECE Robert THOMPSON Isabella Sarah
Robert was probably away at sea in 1891, haven't yet found him in the census
Barbara
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hi ecneps, apolgies to you guys, things sometimes move to fast for me.
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hi ecneps, what,s my next step please, the name of the ship?. thanks khonalan.
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hi everybody,what,s the name of his ship, please- or how do i get there. any offers. thanks khonalan.
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Sorry for the late reply, have been away for a few weeks
I have looked in the crew lists 1861-1913 on findmypast but there is nothing there for him
You could try the National Archives click here (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royal-navy-service.asp)
and this may be useful http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,274980.0.html
Hope this helps, kind regards
Barbara
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hi ecneps, thanks for your reply, i will be looking at your suggestions. also i would like to update r. reece. i now have the actual birth certificate, and it says as you have already posted, i also now have a further five medals + a ribbon with attendance brooch,es on it. the ribbon + three medals are stamped with the captial letters k.g.h., my research says this means knight of the golden horn. the remaining two medals are identical in that , they are both the same size , made of a very light alloy,with the same inscriptions, which say, commemoration of peace 1919, county borough of sunderland, ald: w.f. vint j.p. mayor . thanks khonalan.
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Hi Khonalan
You might like to post a request for more information on the medals on this board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,300.0.html
I'm sure someone on there would be able to shed a little more light on them
Kind regards
Barbara
:)
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hi ecneps, thanks for that, i will follow your links. is there any chance of confirming the i.g.i. on david reece born swansea ? 1796 , marriage 31 oct 1821 to elizabeth scott in sunderland, also says his death 1871. i have no mention of them having a son named john, [ robert,s father,s name] thanks khonalan.
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parish records for the marriage:
Sunderland Holy Trinity Church
31 Oct 1821 David Rees, of this parish married Elizabeth Scott, of this parish
It seems to be a bit early for them to be John's parents if he was born 1840, but not impossible
If you were to get the marriage cert for John Reece to Catherine Ann Baxter, it should show his father's name and occupation
You could look through the bishops' transcripts for Sunderland free on this website to check for baptisms and marriages
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05mf/
Barbara
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hi ecneps, following your links to bishops transcripts, - durham, sunderland, 1830-1837, page of book 182, my adobe says page 621; entry for 1837, nov 26, john , son of, david reece, elizabeth scott, abode , silver street, occupation, mariner. thanks khonalan.
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Glad you found it :)
Thanks for the update, good luck with your research
Barbara :)
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hi everyone, update on the k.g.h. medals ; three medals + attendance ribbon, are to do with the r.a.o.b., common name [ the buffs] , it appears that k.g.h. is an offshoot that society, try google search, type in g.u.o.k.g.h. click search, and on the web page, click history, on the k.g.h. page, scroll down to the three medals, 1st 2nd 3rd degree, they are exactly the same as the ones i have. thanks khonalan.
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hi everyone, possible explanation robert rees nephew, or why he was living with the wayman family. roberts mother was catherine ann baxter, her mother was ann wayman, poss born 1804, married david baxter, 23 feb 1836, monkwearmouth, burial, 1879, sunderland. father,robson wayman, mother, mary scott, seems odd that david reece b. abt 1797, married a elizabeth scott. thanks khonalan.
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hi everybody, update on the two medals described as light alloy; these medals are made from aluminium, and where presented by by several borough council,s after ww1; the inscription w. f. vint , should read : alderman william f vint j.p. [ justice of the peace - magistrate ] 1917 - 1919, mayor of sunderland ; ref; sunderland city council, public library, mayor,s note book - when england was in peril & after. vint,w,f. holdings. city library and arts centre, ref no, 942.81 vint, washington town centre library, 942.81 vin, item is on the shelf. if someone would like to look, we may find out the reason why the medals where presented. thanks khonalan.
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Hi
It does not look as if anyone can help with this at the moment. It might be best to leave this one for a while. Bumping posts, as you are doing, is not encouraged on rootschat.
As you have the Dewey number for the books surely your best bet is to contact the library and ask them to look. Or maybe order them through the inter library loan service?
Regards
Andrea
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Hi all, I have this info based on the 1861 census which shows Robert Race (Reece) wife Elizabeth an Isabella(relation 9y)
My notes on this are as follows.:-
Should be Reece.
Isabella is Elizabeths step niece.
Elizabeth was dau. of John Marrington b.1796*, by his first wife Martha Fairlam.
Isabella was dau. of John Donnison Marrington b.1818, son of John 1796* and his second wife Elizabeth Donnison.
I have researched this fam. but am uncertain if they are related to me, although my line does come from Sunderland.
Hope it of help (plenty more) Fred
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hi fred, 1841 cenus sunderland , ho107 / 321 / 4 , folio 10 , page 15 , david ries ( reece ) age 40 , no profession stated , elizabeth ries , age 40 , children , robert 15 , mary 13 , liz 13 ? , will 11 , jane 9 , john 3 , isabell 1 , ( there should also be david age 6 ) ; 1851 cenus , ho107 / 2397 , folio 192 , page 67 , david reece , age 52 , seaman , born wales , elizabeth reece , age 51 , born sunderland . my findings of the family are ; david reece , b , sunderland or swansea , ( nobody is sure ) about 1796 / 7 , died , 1871 at 2 oak street sunderland , married elizabeth scott , 31 october 1821 sunderland ( listed in church records ), children , robert reece , b , 1821 , mariner , = elizabeth marrington 1842 , abode , 4 d,arcy terrace sunderland , mary reece , b , 1821 ? = john wilson 1848 , elizabeth reece , b ,1827, = james harmer 1857 , william scott reece, b , 1829 , seaman , = mary ann mills 1859, abode 9 matlock street , jane reece , 1832 , = george willis 1855 , abode , 44 sans street , david reece , b , 1835 , from 1881 census , app seaman , ship thomas lee , cliffe in kent , died 1895, at 26 christopher street , unmarried ? , john reece , b , 1837 , = catherine ann baxter 1861 , isabella reece , b , 1840 , died 1844, metcalfs yard , silver street , thomas reece , b , 1844 , died , 1846 , brazen reece , b , 1844 . thanks alan .
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Hi Khonalan,
Thanks for reply, and good luck with your tree.
Fred.
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hi fred , and my thanks to you , if it,s any more help, my line is john reece as posted by ecneps , children , david reece, b, 1864, seaman, d , 1879 silver street, unmarried ? , john race ( reece ), b,1867, = elizabeth allen 1891 , annie baxter reece, b, 1869, d ,1873 ?, robert reece, b ,1871, d ,1941 , = isabella sarah thompson 1897, ann isabella reece , b, 1873 , elizabeth reece, b, 1875, d , 1878 ., robert + isabella, children, all girls , to trace the male line , back to john + elizabeth allen, children , david baxter reece, b, 1891, = gertrude e parker 1917 , margaret ann allen reece, b, 1893, = david pescodd 1913, david william reece, b, 1893, d, 1893, 15 sans street, robert allen reece, b, 1896, d, 1897, 21 silver street, edward adam reece, b, 1897, d, 1898, 21 silver street, catherine baxter reece, b, 1901, = fedrick henry slack 1920 . adding things up, it looks like i have a family line of seaman , fred , if i can ask , are there any seaman , shipwrights, ect , in your line . thanks alan .
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Hi Alan,
I havnt had any post prompts all week, so have just found a pile waiting to be answered.
get back to you later also on Bateys
Fred
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Hi again.
Right Alan, here goes. I found three lines of Merrington or Marrington in Sunderland. John c1770; Peter 1768; and John c1748. There is various matching up by different people, but i am quite confident in what i have.
The line that you are concerned with is the John (roper)1748. He married a Margaret Park, and one of their ch. was Matthew (Keelman)1771 =Eliz. Thompson, they had a John1796 Keelman /pilot( who couldnt be found,but i found him as bp. John Barrington. D.R.O.L have since verified this).
He married Elizabeth(no marriage ever found) and had John Donnison(mariner)Marrington, his second wife Martha Fairlam had your Elizabeth.
All three lines have Seamen and Shipwrights,also shipbuilders and shipowners. Peter loaned the money for the building of the Bethel chapel where he was later entombed.
I found myself involved with this lately when they were all dug up, but its not for open discussion. Apathy reigns in Sunderland.!!!!
Ask if you want more on any of the above.
Are your Bateys related to Burnsides
Fred
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hi fred , great stuff about elizabeth, i,m sure that,s helped several people, inc myself . , seems like my bit about ships ect , were correct . , fred , do you have any of the donninson / marrington ships names, ( for crew lists ) as i wonder if robert had interest here . , the bethal chapel ,i do not know, but there was a minister arthur augustus reece , abode , tatham st , also a jessie reece , b , 1844 , lexington , usa , f , rev william henry reece , with links to the reece family at sculcoats hull . , as there already are posts, about my other side , i think, all i can say, is , not as far as i know . however ,as my g.f. robert went to china + japan , its possible that some of the cargo would have been ordered / sold to, the merchants of sunderland . thanks alan .
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Hik Alan, Sorry, but i should have checked my old notes. Martha was johns second wife and Eliz. his 1st, every thing else ok.
I havnt concentrated on this line, as i had enough to do sorting out the others, but a yank who wifes line descends from it, wrote some papers, a lot that i didnt agree with. However he wrote that John( who may be the wrong one according to me) sailed in several ships.
I havnt done any ship research, maybe you could enlighten me on how its done.He writes "John Marrington was a seaman. At 16 he can be found as an apprentice on the ship Danube. By age 21 he was a seaman on the ship Sea Flower. He was later on the ship Restless, and by age 23 he was a cook on the ship Gironde."
I am sure that J. Donnison marrington was down as Waterman and cobleman
on ch. baps.
One of his daus.eugenie married a swedish sailor olaf Peddersson and went to usa (mormons i believe.)
regards Fred
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hi fred , just to jump back , peter loaned the money, sounds like an important person, i think you should do further research there . , looks like elizabeth is ok ., ship research , lots of ships had the same names, but different registered numbers, eg , in my case , two ships named triton , two captain d rees , but one ship reg wales , the other reg sunderland , you will need the numbers to track down your ships , there are several links on rootschat already, however, a handy place to start is , www.crewlist.org.uk , click on the left hand boxes ect , if you find your ship + the crew list ect ( lots of ships records are missing ) , there is usually a fee to pay for downloads ect ., the free site , ships in port 1881 is also very handy , get back to me if you need any more help . thanks alan .
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Hi Alan, Found an old newpaper item concerning your rbt reece. trouble over money loan. i could send it if you let me know how. Hope you are well. regards Fred
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hi fred , will send p.m. thanks alan.
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Hi to all searching Ca,pt Robert Reece.
I am new to this site but am the great grand daughter of Robert. My uncle and I have been researching our family tree for some time and have gone back a very long way. My uncle is the grandson of Robert and really wants to talk to you. He believes that you are his cousin. He wants me to give you his phone number but I would like you to contact me first.
dixiewix
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hi, dixiewix. have sent you p.m. thanks alan.
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Great information sent. This fills in the gaps.
Thanks
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Hi Dixie,
I too have been researching this family for a couple of years. I am a direct descendant of John Reece (1867-1842) and Elizabeth Allen (1871-1932). They are my great grandparents. My grandparents are Catherine Baxter Reece and Frederick Slack. John Reece (1867-1842) is Robert Reece's brother. I am interested in researching further back in time but I seem to get stuck at David Reece (1796-1871) and Elizabeth Scott (1800-1875). Have your researches taken you any further back than that? I am more than happy to share any information I have on the family.
Pauline
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Morning Pauline.
I have the dates for Johns father: dates for John Reece (1837-1876).
John Reece had 3 sons and 2 daughters (Elizabeth 1876-1878, David 1865-1875, John 1867,(he was a sawmill worker and was married to Elizabet Allen in about 1890), Anne Baxter-Reece 1869-1873, Robert 1871-1941
John Reece had a son called David Baxter-Reece and he died on Monkweirmouth Bridge in 1940 of natural causes.
I have little information beyond this although my investigations suggest that there is a link to the USA.
I have contacted the Sunderland Antiquarian society ( they have a lot of information) and am hoping to get further with their help(www.sunderland-antiquarians.org)
I have a lot of information on the Scott family if you are going in that direction.
Susan
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Hi Susan,
Thanks so much for replying so quickly. I already have all the information you mentioned about John Reece (1837 to 1876) and his children. I remember my Nana telling me about her brother Davey who collapsed on Wearmouth Bridge coming home from work. I also found a newspaper article about him. Apparently the Coroner said the cause of death was heart disease. Also he served in Salonika in WWI and contracted Malaria. Although he suffered from the recurring effects of the disease, he did not die from it.
I have been to the Antiquarian Society and they're great, although I only visited them once when I was home last summer. I am interested in the USA link. I now live in the US myself although I was born in Sunderland. Perhaps I am that link.
I would be very interested in information about the Scott family. I come across a lot of Sunderland Scotts in the research material, and also Scotts have married into my family several times. It is difficult for me to sort out from the material which Scotts are my(our) Scotts.
Maybe I have information you would find useful. Is there anything specifically that you are looking for that I can help you with?
Pauline
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Evening Pauline,
It's great to be in touch with another member of the family. I will get back to you with other information once I have got it in better order. My uncle,*, has been working with me on our family tree ( his mother, my grandmother was a Reece). He is very keen to talk to you but unfortunately hasn't got a computer at home. However he is happy for me to send you his telephone number so that you can speak to him and I am sure he will post lots of information to you ( he has amassed a considerable amount). His number is *. He lives in Lincolnshire in the Uk.
Keep in touch
Sue
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Hi Susan,
I sent you a response via personal messaging.
Pauline
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Hi there,
I have just come across this thread and am also a distant relation. I am the great-great granddaughter of William Scott Reece (1829-1871), son of David Reece (1799-1871) and Elizabeth Scott (c.1800-1875), and brother of John Reece (the father of John Reece (1867)).
Would be interested to know if you have discovered anything futher about the family of David Reece (1799) or Elizabeth Scott. I have information about other children of David and Elizabeth and their descendants.
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Hello GGG of William Scott Reece,
Thanks for connecting. I'd love to share more information with you. Since I have a lot of information it might be easiest for me to do this via regular email. That way I can attach documents. If you would respond to this message to let me know your continued interest I will research how to send you my personal email through personal messaging since it is not recommended that personal contact information be shared on this site. I can also put you in touch with another cousin who is an excellent researcher and also a descendent of David Reece and Elizabeth Scott.
Barnabydoggy
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Great to hear from you. My Uncle (Geoff) has been working with me on the Reece family tree as his mother (my grandmother) is a Reece. He has a lot of detailed information which he would be happy to share with you. He unfortunately does not have a computer so I have to contact him by phone or address - (*)
Sue
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