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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: ty_ni_12 on Thursday 14 May 09 22:08 BST (UK)
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Searching for Thomas J Thomas and wife named Jane, from Wales - children Arthur, Maggie and Lina found on 1880 Census, living in Coulsontown, Delta, PA. Son Arthur came back to Wales to live. Think that Thomas still living with daughter Lina in Harford on 1910 Census.
Brother Morris and family settled in coal region sckullkill, PA.
Would like to locate descendants of Thomas, if possible
M
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For reference:
1900 Newport, Luzerne, PA Census
Thomas J Thomas, age 63, born June 1836, Wales
Immigrated 1869, married to Jane 23 years; occupation Bradishman? ??
Jane Thomas, age 65, born June 1835, Wales, immigrated: unkn
Mother of living children: 0; mother of how many children: 0
Elisabeth [Elizabeth] Thomas, age 12, born January 1888, Pennsylvania, adopted daughter. Father's birthplace: Pennsylvania; mother's Germany
58? Newport Street
Is this your Thomas?
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Who are Arthur, Maggie and Lina then, if Jane had no children?
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I don't think I found the correct Thomas family. ??? I'm backtracking now, and will post 1880.
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1880 U.S., Peach Bottom, York, PA, June 1880
Thomas J. Thomas, age 31, born about 1849, Wales, Slate Cutter
Jane, wife, age 30, born about 1850, Wales
Arthur T, age 4. born Maryland
Maggie, age 2, born PA
Lina, age 1 month, born PA
Written above "The Village of Coulson town", in different penmanship is Peach Bottom Township
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1910 Census, 5th District, Harford, Maryland
Thomas, Thomas J., 62, widow, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1868, naturalized, splitter – slate quarry, own home, no mortgage
Thomas, Lina, 30, single, b. Pennsylvania, parents b. Wales, dress maker – at home
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1900 Stearns, Harford, Maryland
Winifred Jones [Winnifred Jones], widowed, age 77 (should be 71), born August 1828, mother of 12 children, 3 still living, Wales, immigrated 1849
Thomas J Thomas, son-in-law, widowed, age 50, born February 1850, Wales, immigrated 1875, Slate Quarryman
Margaret W Thomas, granddaughter, age 21, born August 1878, Pennsylvania
Lina H [Lana H] (should be Lina), granddaughter, age 20, born April 1880, Pennsylvania, Seamstress
Benjamin Griffith, age 29, born December 1870, Iowa, Boarder, Farm Hand
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This might be son, Arthur –
1900 Census, 546 Lodi St?, Ward 2, Elyria, Lorain County, Ohio
Thomas, Arthur, head, 25, b. May 1875, married 0 years, b. Pennsylvania, parents b. England, crane man S.P., rented home
Thomas, Bertha, wife, 20, b. June 1880, married 0 years, no children, b. Ohio, parents b. Ohio, house keeper
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1880 Peach Bottom, YORK, PA
Thomas, Thomas J, 31, b. Wales, slate cutter
Jane, 30, b. Wales
Arthur T, 4, b. Maryland
Maggie, 2, b. PA
Lina, b. Apr, 1/12, b. PA
1900 Stearns Precinct, Harford, Maryland
Jones, Winefred, Head, white, female, b. Aug 1828, 72, widow,
mother of 12 children, 3 children living, b. Wales,
parents b. Wales, immig 1849, 50 yrs in US, can read,
write, spks Eng, owns farm free
Thomas, Thomas J, son-in-law, white, male, b. Feb 1850, 50,
widow, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immig 1875, 25
yrs in US, NA(turalized), slate quarryman, can read,
write, spks Eng
Margaret W, gr. dau, white, female, b. Aug 1878, 21,
single, b. PA, parents b. Wales, can read, write, spks
Eng
Lina, gr. dau, white, female, b. Apr 1880, 20, single,
b. PA, parents b. Wales, seamstress
Griffith, Benjamin, boarder
1910 District 5, Harford, Maryland
Thomas, Thomas J, 62, widow, b. Wales, immig 1868, splitter
slate quarry
Lina, 30, single, b. PA, dress maker
1880 Stearns, Harford, Maryland
Ebenezer, Jones, 55, b. Wales, slate cutter
Winefred, 52, b. Wales
John E 21, b. WI, farmer
Hugh E 19, b. PA, farm hand
Ellen E 16, b. PA
Owen 10, b. PA
1870 Drumore Twp, Lancaster, PA
Jones, Ebenezer, 46, b. Wales, slate worker
Winifred, 42, b. Wales
Elizabeth, 19, b. PA
John E, 11, b. WI
Hugh, 9, b. PA
Ellen A, 6, b. PA
William 3, b. PA
Owen, 4/12, b. PA
1860 Fulton Twp, Lancaster, PA
Ebenezer Jones, 36, male, slator, b. Wailes
Jane 33, female, wife, b. Wailes
Jane 11, female b. Wailes
Elizabeth 10, female, b. PA
John 1, male, b. Wis
1850 Peach Bottom, York, PA
Ebenezer Jones, 24, laborer, b. Wales
Jane 23, b. Wales
Jane 2 b. Wales
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Possibly Jane and Thomas in 1870:
1870 Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Ward 7
Roundy, Judson, 52, retired, b. Maine
Mary, 49, 52, b. Maine
Jones, Jane, 22, domestic, b. Wales
Aichle, Lenna, 23, " , b. Germany
Thomas, Thomas, 20, " , b. Wales
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Thanks Erato, Genealiza and Lisa in California. My Thomas J. Thomas does fit into slot of one found in 1880 in Peach Bottom, then in 1900 Stearns Precinct living as a widow with mother in law Winifred, again in 1910 in Dis 5, Harford.
Son Arthur was living back in Wales with his aunt on 1891 and 1901 UK Census.
Any tips on how I can locate descendants of Thomas? Maybe location of burial, or desendants of daughter Lina that was living with her father on 1910 US Census?
Thanks,
Mandy
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Since Lina was still a "spinster" at age 30, you would need to look for a possible marriage from 1910 onward to proceed any further. Margaret is already out of the house by 1910, she probably married between 1900 and 1910. They were living in Harford county during those years, so I would try and find marriage records there, possibly with the help from someone at RAOGK--(random acts of genealogical kindness). You can google search the address.
You can also try contacting the library http://www.hcplonline.info/services/onlineservices.html in Bel Air, Maryland. On the homepage it has a link to "ask the library". You might ask if they have any marriage records for the early 1900s or any cemetery or obituary records for that time period that would include your people of interest. I would confine your question to one or two simple questions. If you get a response, then you can ask another.
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I'm on break at work, and I've not read the post carefully...hopefully, this could be a possibility:
Margaret W Miller, 1920 Peach Bottom, York, PA census.
Age 41, born about 1879, PA
Parents born Wales.
Husband: Lansing Miller, age 38 years, born about 1882, PA
Children:
Paul
Ruth
Margaret D
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1910 Census, 5th District Harford, PA
Lansing Miller
Margaretta
Paul
Living about 4 houses away from the Millers is Thomas J Thomas and Lina.
Back to work, sorry.
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Lisa, I think you maybe have a hit there. I found this in the Delta Herald And Times of Delta, Pennsylvania from 21 Apr. 1911, in a column entitled West Bangor Budget: "Mrs. Ebenezer Jones is visiting at the home of her grand daughter Mrs. Lansing Miller at Ludwig."
In the same paper from 4 Oct. 1912, it says that "the stork" left a baby girl at the home of Lansing Miller.
In the same paper from 22 Sep. 1932, it says that Mrs. Elizabeth Davies visited her niece Mrs. Lansing Miller for several days last week in West Bangor. Maybe that was Elizabeth Jones?
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Here's another mention that seems to fit:
Delta Herald And Times 25 Apr. 1913
"Miss Ella Kelley and Mrs. James J. Williams and little nephew Thomas Williams spent a day recently at the home of Mr. & Mrs. Lansing Miller where little Thomas made the acquaintance of his great grand mother Mrs. Eben Jones. Thomas is the infant son of Jas. E. and the late Lina Thomas Williams."
An "In Memory" notice from 26 Dec. 1913 says that Lina Williams, wife of James, died 27 Dec. 1912.
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I found an obit for Lina Holly Williams from 3 Jan. 1913. It says she died at her home in Ludwig, Maryland on Dec. 27th. She was the youngest daughter of the late Thomas J. Thomas. Her mother was Jane, daughter of Winifred & Ebenezer Jones. It says Jane died when Lina was 6 months old, leaving her and her sister Margaret (Mrs. Lansing Miller) to the care of her grandparents. Her brother Arthur was taken to Bethesda, North Wales, where he still resides. Lina married James E. Williams, son of the late Richard Williams, on 16 Nov. 1910. James was a widower with 4 small children and his 1st wife died when the youngest was 11 days old. Lina had daughter Jane Winifred born 7 Aug. 1911 and son Thomas Ellsworth on 16 Dec. 1912. She was buried in Slateville cemetery and her pallbearers included cousins Owen, Richard, and Will Clyde Williams, Warren Jones, Maurice Thomas, and John Schrader.
Quite a sad story.
There is a notice in the Delta paper from a group called I.O.R.M. from 24 Nov. 1911 that refers to their departed brother Thomas J. Thomas. Not sure when he died, though.
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Possible last residence: Greenwich, New York. Name was Marcella (not Margaret). Passed away in 1967.
Lansing Miller had a last residence of Greenwich.
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I think that might be a different Lansing Miller, Lisa. I found an obit for George A. Miller, a brother of Lansing Miller of Greenwich, New York & it said George was born Troy, New York and spent much of his life in Greenwich. I also found an obit for John J. Boyle born in Ireland and long-time resident of Greenwich, whose sister was Mrs. Lansing Miller of Greenwich.
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Thank you, Shelly. Not spending the time to carefully look around, as I can only look on breaks. Don't currently have internet at home. I'll be back when I have home internet.
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WWII Draft Registration Card 27 Apr. 1942
Lansing Miller
Peach Bottom Twp., York Co., Pa.
Mailing address: Delta, Pennsylvania R.F.D. #3
Telephone: Delta 17R12
Age 60, born 6 Jan. 1882 in York, Pennsylvania
Person who will always know his address: Mrs. Margaret W. Miller, Delta, Pa., R.F.D. #3
Self-employed
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Possible entries on Social Security Death Index for Lina's children:
Thomas Williams
Born 16 Dec. 1912 and died May 1967
Last residence was Wilmington, New Castle Co., Delaware, 19809
Social Sec. # issued in Delaware before 1951
There are 4 Janes with this birthdate, but this seemed most likely based on location -
Jane Davis
Born 7 Aug. 1911 and died Sep. 1995
Last residence was Mercer, Mercer Co., Pennsylvania
Last benefit was Sharon, Mercer Co., Pennsylvania
Social Sec. # issued in Pennsylvania before 1951