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Hi
Looking for
John Aspray
Esther Ann Aspray wife b.1861 Hulme Manchester
They married in 1882, I have no other info on John any help would be appreciated
Regards Marj
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Possible -
1891
RG12 3111 6 6
writing awful
something farm, Entwhistle
Thomas Holden single 58 farmer
John Aspden 35 nephew farm servant cant read where bn
Esther Aspden 31 nephews wife bn Eccleshill lancs
John Thomas Aspden 9 bn Borwell
Betsey Ellen Aspden 8 bn Entwhistle
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Here are that family in 1901, but still clearly Aspden, not Aspray, so not sure it is them
Rg13 3923 79 15
39 Cemetery Rd Darwen
John 46 Slate quarryman bn Darwen
Esther 42 bn Darwen
John T 19 cotton weaver bn Darwen
Betsy E 18 bn Entwhistle
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No - cancel all that - I am pretty sure I am barking up a wrong tree.
Your John Aspray marriesd Esther Duffy in 1882
There is a John Aspden marrying in 1881 and one of the brides is also an Esther (Leach), so that will be the couple I have found, I guess.
Back to the old drawing board!
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We wont find Esther on either census! -
Death
Oct/Nov/Dec 1889
Chorlton 8c 537
Esther Ann Aspray
age 29
With no info on John it will be hard to find him - he may have remarried of course.
Do you know if they had children?
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Hi Lizdlb
Thank you for the death of esther Ann, so sad only 29 years old, I don't know if she had any children, I was hoping that the 1891 census would reveal some.
Thanks again for your help, very much appreciated.
Regards Marj
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Have you Got John and Esthers Marriage certificate..it will show both Fathers on it...and may help you to find John in the later census if he moved back with parents etc?
Jun Qtr 1882
John Aspray Chorlton 8c 991
Esther Ann Duffy
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Theres a John Aspray (b 1861) on the 1891 Living with his Stepfather? Mother, Sister and 3 Grandchildren of either his Step father or mother.
Do you want the details?
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I would think this was the right family....
Death of Esther DEC qtr 1889
birth of Sarah A Aspray DEC qtr 1889..seems Esther may have died giving birth :'(
I will post the Census details.
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Living at 76 Devonshire Street Hulme Manchester.
John Talent 60 Head General Labourer. b Ireland
Mary Talent 58 b Anglesey Holyhead
Hannah Aspray 25 step-dau Stay maker b Manchester
John Aspray 30 Warehouseman step-son "
William H Aspray 12 grandson "
Mary E Aspray 5 grandau "
Sarah A Aspray 15 months Grandau "
John Thos Pimlott 29 Visitors
Ellen Pimlott 27
William Pimlott 12/12
RG12 Piece 3190 Folio 102 Page 18
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1901
Seems John Aspray left his Mother (now a widow) Aspray transcibed as ASPERY. Will see if i can find him , he may have remarried.
Living at 14 upper Wilmot Street Hulme Manchester.
Mary Talent 67 Widow.
William H Aspery 22
Mary Aspery 15
Sarah A Aspery 7? should be 11
RG13 Piece 3701 Folio 140 Page: 30.
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Theres a marriage of these two who could be JOHN ASPRAYS's parents
Dec 1861
Sarah Alderley Manchester 8d 297
George Aspray Manchester 8d 297
Hannah BUCKLEY Manchester 8d 297
Andrew Harris Manchester 8d 297
Mary Pidcock Manchester 8d 297
Forget that..Just found that marriage on IGI..she married Andrew Harris. ..sorry.
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Hi Woody
Thank you for the 1891 census, and the connection to Esther Ann, William H was named after her brother. Good work and thanks for your perseverence in find them for me.
Regards Marj
Ps Just seen your last message. Thank you
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forget my last post...ive amended it.. ..sorry.
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On the IGI again :) could be him?
John Aspray
Christening 05 APR 1863 Manchester, Lancashire
Father John Aspray
Mother Mary
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1871 for John. Living at 72 Devonshire Street Chorlton on Medlock (No. 76 in 1891) :)
Mary Asprey 39 Widow. b Wales.
Martha Asprey 15
Mary Asprey 12
John Asprey 11
Sarah Ann Asprey 8
Hannah Asprey 5
RG10 Piece 3992 Folio 62 Page 22
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1861-- Transcibed as Asberry
John Asprey 34 Cab Driver B Middleton Lancs. (my birth place ;) )
Mary Asprey 30 b Liverpool (close enough to Anglesey i suppose)
Martha Asprey 5 b Liverpool
Mary E Asprey 3 b Manchester
John Asprey 1 b manchester.
RG9 Piece 2919 Folio 78 Page11
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Theres a death of a John Asprey in..
Dec Qtr 1868
John Asprey (32)? Manchester 8d 197 which looks interesting. fits with Mary being a widow in 1871.
if his age had 42 then i would say it was him .
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The christening of John, Thank you
Just seen your other post of the census Great. Thanks
Regards Marj
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Hi Woody
Just noticed you were born Middleton, nearly neighbours, I was born Harpurhey.
Marj
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Hi Woody
Just noticed you were born Middleton, nearly neighbours, I was born Harpurhey.
Marj
Unlucky :P
Only Joking :)
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Do we have any evidence that William H is the son of John and Esther?
He was born 4 years before John and Esther married at Hulme St Philip and was living with gran Mary & John Talent in 1881.
(RG11; Piece: 3926; Folio: 101; Page: 15)
John's older sisters Martha and Mary were also there and W H could well be the illegitamate son of one of those two.
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There's a likely looking John Aspray in the 1901 census living at 28 Angel St Manchester.
John 41 Cloth warehouse porter
Jane wife 40
Mary Jane dtr 7
John Wm son 4
Clara dtr 1
All born Manchester
rg13_3754_126_7
A couple of other families were listed at the same address. The Aspray's were living in a single room so must have been pretty impoverished. :(
Not found John/Jane marriage registration or Mary Jane birth. ???
Angel St is just off Rochdale Rd near Miller St.
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Hi JFP1949
Yes I think your right, William Henry could well have been an illigitimate son of one of John's sisters.
Thanks for your interest and help.
Regards Marj