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Title: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: vienna on Tuesday 12 May 09 17:11 BST (UK)
On a document I have obtained for my g.g.grandfather he gives his place of birth as Keil. I believe this could be in Scotland, his name was John Brodigan and he was born in 1848. I wonder if anyone could help me with this.
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 12 May 09 18:40 BST (UK)
Hi

The only John Brodigan b 1848 showing up on the 1851 census was b Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire - parents James & Ann

Nothing in Scotland

In 1871 he is married to Eliza Ann with children
Rose Anna   4 
Mary Ann  3 
John  1 

What is the document you mention
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: Billy Anderson on Wednesday 13 May 09 06:21 BST (UK)
I have just typed Keil into Google earth and the nearest is Kiel in Germany.
Is it possibly Crail in Scotland,
Can you post the portion of the certificate on here and we can try and work out the place name,
do not post the whole cert as that is against copyright.
I typed in Brodigan into the IGI records and up came 17 listings,mostly Old Monkland, Lanarkshire.
kind regards,Billy.
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: alba99 on Wednesday 13 May 09 09:25 BST (UK)
There is a Keil at the tip of the Mull of Kintyre , just west of South-end.    Streetmap link: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=171500&Y=620500&A=Y&Z=120

Hopes this helps

Les
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: vienna on Wednesday 13 May 09 09:49 BST (UK)
John Brodigan was in the merchant navy, the document I have is from a crew list entry.His place of birth is given as Keil. I looked it up in the atlas and the only place I could find spelt in that way was Keils on the Isle of Jura. It came as a surprise to me because I had always asumed he was born in Ireland.I know he married Martha Jones in 1877 and they lived in Aberystwyth Wales where my great grandfather Thomas Brodigan was born in 1882. Thankyou for all your help Vienna.
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: Boongie Pam on Wednesday 13 May 09 10:14 BST (UK)
There is a place called Keir in Dumfriesshire.  r/l could easily be confused?
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: Billy Anderson on Wednesday 13 May 09 11:34 BST (UK)
On a document I have obtained for my g.g.grandfather he gives his place of birth as Keil. I believe this could be in Scotland, his name was John Brodigan and he was born in 1848. I wonder if anyone could help me with this.
I recon the only way to proceed is by the paid site scotlandspeople.
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
You have a name that is not very common and a pos. d.o.b
regards,Billy.
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: Boongie Pam on Wednesday 13 May 09 12:22 BST (UK)
I've done a search for any children baptised with a surname brod*g*n - no results.

b*d*g*n only gets Bridgetowns of various spelling but one family and a Broadgreen.
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: Billy Anderson on Wednesday 13 May 09 13:15 BST (UK)
Maybe we should look at the IGI records of Brodigan in Lanarkshire.
As a definite placing for the name.
It is common for people to migrate from the Scottish isles to cities like Glasgow and the surrounding areas for work.
It may also be a case of slowly working back generation by generation confirming dates etc.
There is also two for Ireland in the IGI records.

John Brodigan, d.o.b  16th June 1864.
Parents,
Owen Brodigan
Catherine Campbell.

John Hendry Brodigan
d.o.b 7th June 1867.
Parents,
Patrick Brodigan.
Margaret Rourke.

regards,Billy.
 
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: vienna on Wednesday 13 May 09 14:08 BST (UK)
Thankyou for all your help I will continue  my search in Scotland Ireland and Wales and hopefully I will get to the bottom of this
Vienna
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 13 May 09 14:23 BST (UK)
Link to post on Ireland- General board:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,381270.msg2539298.html#msg2539298
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: DUNMAC on Friday 05 June 09 23:29 BST (UK)
Hi,
         In case the spelling was out there is a Kiel graveyard in Morvern, Argyllshire, Scotland on the mainland opposite the Island of Mull.
                                                                            Regards,
                                                                                      Dunmac.
Title: Re: Is Keil in Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 26 February 10 23:34 GMT (UK)
There are several Keil(l)s in Scotland.

Try going to www.geograph.org.uk and typing Keil in the search box at top right, then clicking on Keil? in blue at top left.