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Title: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: GAYNOR WILKINSON on Tuesday 12 May 09 12:40 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am looking for a marriage between Edward Iball to Mary Jones abt 1855 in Hawarden.

Also Edward Iball is listed in the 1851 census as being the son of Mary Iball and stepson of George Iball however, I cannot find a marriage between George and Mary. The 1841 census has Mary Iball being an independant. Would be really usefull to find who was her first husband and father to Edward.

Thanks
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: ricky1 on Tuesday 12 May 09 13:24 BST (UK)
Hi

There is this marriage

1855
Edward Iball
Sept Quarter
Great Boughton
Cheshire/Flintshire

vol 8a
page 463

on the same page is a Mary Jones


ricky
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: GAYNOR WILKINSON on Tuesday 12 May 09 13:42 BST (UK)
thank you!
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: Paul on Wednesday 13 May 09 15:52 BST (UK)
Hello gw,  Hawarden marriage July 21 1855.

Edward Iball. 20. bachelor. Labourer. Bistre, Mold. Father, John. Labourer.
Mary Jones. 30?. spinster. Pentrobin. Father, Paul. Labourer.
Witnesses. James Jones & Mary Asbury.

Didn't have time to look for anything else :(

Paul.

Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: GAYNOR WILKINSON on Wednesday 13 May 09 18:30 BST (UK)
Thank you Paul,
I had assumed Edwards father was deceased, now it looks like there may have been a divorce.
The plot thickens!

Regards,
Gaynor
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 13 May 09 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi,

Edward's christening perhaps?

The IGI has this:

Edward Ibell christening 2 Nov 1834, Hawarden, Flint, Wales

Parents:  John Ibell & Mary

Also this:

Elizabeth Iball christening  14 July 1820 Hawarden, Flint, Wales

Parents:  John Iball & Mary Bushell


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: GAYNOR WILKINSON on Wednesday 13 May 09 20:54 BST (UK)
Thanks Nany Jan,

You guys are great

Regards.
Gaynor
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:04 BST (UK)

  Hi ....

  Marriage for George & Mary ....

  Liverpool Dec 1842    George Ibell
                                    Mary Ibell        vol 20 page 126

  Now if George was also son of John & Mary Ibell the marriage was not legal and so maybe why they travelled so far to marry.

    Tazzie
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: ricky1 on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:11 BST (UK)
Hi

Being as George Iball was 52 on the 1851 census, he might have been the brother of John Iball ???

ricky
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:15 BST (UK)


  Hi Ricky .....

 Could not see census details so did not know age ...... mmmm... so is that better or worse then.... cannot for the life of me remember the in's & out's to the marriage rules. Maybe because more than a couple of mine got away with it.... ::)

    Tazzie
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: ricky1 on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:20 BST (UK)
Hi Tazzie

I dont know if he could marry his brothers wife ??? ???. Thing is there is a John Iball living at Mold on the 1841, born 1796 ish with an Elizabeth aged 50 and four children. Might be something to do with the family, and then again it might not :-\ :-\

ricky
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: GAYNOR WILKINSON on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:30 BST (UK)
Everyone,

This is a great help.
You would think that an unusual name like Iball would be easy but it beginning to sound like Smith and Jones. And they all seem to come from Bistre, Buckley.

Thanks to everyone for their input
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:33 BST (UK)

  Hi Ricky
  There is a member sub for George Ibell 1817 Hawarden to John & Mary..... which would make him John jnr's brother but the age is out for it to be him in 1851.
  He could be a cousin but only the cert will tell as it would have the info to prove it.
 Even though it was illegal to marry your dead husbands/ wifes   brother or sister until the early 1900's I have 3 in my family and 1 in hubbies family. 2 were in small villages where the vicar knew everyone .... but life went on.

    Tazzie
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: Paul on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:44 BST (UK)
Quote from: gw1979 on Wednesday 13 May 09 21:30 BST (UK)
Everyone,

This is a great help.
You would think that an unusual name like Iball would be easy but it beginning to sound like Smith and Jones. And they all seem to come from Bistre, Buckley.

Thanks to everyone for their input

Having had a quick look through parish registers. Iball was quite a common name in Mold, Buckley, Bistre area.

Paul.
Title: Re: Edward Iball marriage to Mary Jones
Post by: chrisgrant on Monday 18 November 13 09:19 GMT (UK)
!
I have spent the past 9 days doing the family history for Jean Iball 1943, back Edward 1914, Walter 1884, Paul 1857, Edward 1834, John 1792.

George & John were NOT brothers as John's parents were George Iball, collier & Sarah Ellis. The father of  Mary's 2nd 1842 husband, George, was a Thomas Ibell - from that m.c.

But have not yet discovered the relationship between her 1st husband John Iball, father George, and George Iball, father Thomas. Did not find a baptism for a George born 1795-1805 when noting down all Hawarden, Buckley & Mold baptisms, nor does he appear in the 1841C! .

Would be really interested to know how you are descended from John please? All my research I have put on a website that I could point you to

Or you can contact me by PM here