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Title: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: Trees on Tuesday 12 May 09 12:25 BST (UK)
Help I have a Lowdie RULE on my tree I have taken the baptism from the Family Search P002071      1558 - 1580 which I thought was an extraction of the Camborne register and therefor Correct  ???
LOWDIE RULE  male father Jo.  no mother given

Now another chatter has queried this as they have a marriage for said lowdie but SHE was the bride :o of JOHN TEMBEY   07 JUL 1666      Camborne
The marriage appears on the family search site several times but only as submitted entries

Can any one be kind enough to check the registers for us please.

Trees
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: Barbara F on Tuesday 12 May 09 12:40 BST (UK)
Hello Trees

Have you seen this site?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/06a1/

This indicates that Lowdie was a twin.  I found the link via the Cornwall OPC site

http://www.cornwall-opc.org/index.htm

Barbara

Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 12 May 09 12:46 BST (UK)
the transcription here
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/a_d/camborne.php

says twin children of John Rule. If they were both boys, it might say twin sons.

I wouldn't put too much trust in the IGI decision on gender. The baptism for the child I'm pretty sure is my gggrandmother says son with no first name on the IGI batch. The original register says child, not son, so looks like guesswork -  correct father & year for my relative.

Wonder if Lowdie is a version of Loveday? Just checked my dictionary of first names Loveday also' found as Lowdy'.

 ;)

sorry Barbara you posted while I was typing but I'll go ahead for Loveday theory
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: Trees on Tuesday 12 May 09 13:39 BST (UK)
ooh so Osprey you are also a family member A BiG welcome to our extended family have you seen the long discussion I had with other chatters on the Cornwall board"Rule Brynant and Bray,," please take a look at our web site and let me have your comments thoughts etc its our bray line
So Lowdie was a girl
Trees
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 12 May 09 13:56 BST (UK)
Possibly if you find a marriage for Lowdrie that will help determine the gender

 
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: Trees on Tuesday 12 May 09 14:07 BST (UK)
Thats what started all this toni** wimbush1975 had a marriage where lowdie was the bride and the only one we found was the one as a male on my tree whattaistaka to maka  ;D
Trees
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 12 May 09 14:40 BST (UK)
sorry to disappiont ,Trees, but I don't think I have any connection to Rule, Bryant & Bray.

 ???
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: Trees on Tuesday 12 May 09 15:08 BST (UK)
Sorry Osprey I thought you had said lowdrie was your gt x Gran i can see now you were giving a different example sorry  but we still belong to the great rootschat family  :)
I like the Loveday idea
Trees
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: cornish maid on Wednesday 20 May 09 18:37 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I managed to check the transcripts of the Registers today.  The entry reads:

Rule, Robert and Lowdie, twin children of Jo.  11 March 1634

Not much help in itself as to whether Lowdie is a girl or a boy.  However, I too think that if both children were girls or both were boys, then the register would probably have said "twin daughters of" or "twin sons of".  I also checked the transcripts for the marriage you have already come across and this reads:

Timbe, John and Lowdy Rule   7 July 1666

We then have a Lovdey Tembey buried on 28 December 1704 at Camborne.  (I could not find a Lowdie/Lowdy Rule buried in Camborne at any time.)

I would say that Lowdie/Lowdy and Lovdey are one and the same person, and that she was a girl.  I think Osprey is right about the Loveday theory.  :)

Hope this helps a bit.
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: Trees on Wednesday 20 May 09 18:52 BST (UK)
Many thanks yes we found a marriage of a Lowdie and a Tembey so that death is ours too please can you give me the details?
Trees
Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: cornish maid on Wednesday 20 May 09 19:12 BST (UK)
I'm afraid there were no additional details about the death, apart from that mentioned above.  :-\ 

Title: Re: Male or Female? Cambourne 1635
Post by: Trees on Wednesday 20 May 09 19:33 BST (UK)
Sorry I was not concentrating of course you had shown it and that confirms the Loveday/Lowdrie theory too I think this is the same person Many thanks that puts another piece in the puzzle
trees