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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: blackangel on Thursday 07 May 09 12:24 BST (UK)
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hi
i`m trying to search for a thomas langthorp married to a rachel moore i dont have any data on him at all except i know he wasnt the thomas langthorp from hull cause i followed that and it turned out to be the wrong one....but his wife rachel moore was born abt 1869 and i think from norfolk,married thomas langthorp(he was from yorkshire thats all i know)and they had 9 children one of which was voilet langthorp(my great gradmother)and rachel died in 1934 in hull.....i know theres a thomas langthorp born abt 1862 from i think keyingham but i can prove hes the one i`m looking for...
if anyone can help me please that would be fantastic
thanks
kirsty ::)
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Hi Kirsty,
Was Violet born in 1911?
If so, then the 1911 census seems to show that she had a brother Thomas born ca. 1891 and a brother David born ca. 1897 (as well as other sigblings born after 1901)
Do you have the 1901 census yet?
1901
RG13/4466 55 1
Sculcoates, Yorkshire
5 Spyvee? Street
Thomas Langthorpe, head, 35, General Labourer, b. Yorks Keyingham
Rachel, wife, 31, b. Norfolk Kings Lynn
Thomas, son, 10, school, b. Yorks Hull
David, son, 4, school, b. do.
Herbert, son,1, b. do.
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yeh thats right her brothers both died in the navy(thomas and david)and no i havent got the census i havent got any of them...thanks....
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It very much looks like you have found the correct thomas
1901
Spyvee/ St Kingston on Hull Sculcoates
Thomas Langthorpe head 35 gen lab Keyningham Yorks
Rachel wife 31 Kings lynn Norfolk
Thomas son 10 Hull
David son 4 hull
herbert son 1 Hull
RG13 4466 55 1
the only Thomas i can find b Keyingham at correct time is
1871
Keyingham Yorks
John Langthorp head m 45 plumber & Glazier Patrington Yorks
Sarah wife 36 Hull
THOMAS son 9 keyingham Yorks
Arthur son 8 keyingham
Herbert son 6 Keyigham
Ann Eliabeth daughter 4 keyingham
John son 2 keyingham
Catherine Doran visitor W 43 Hull
RG10 4798 55 8
if you are able to purchase the marriage cert for Thomas and Rachel that should give father's name and occupation and so confirm you have the correct thomas
Suz
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Thomas born 1891 was registered as Thomas Langthorp MOORE in Mar 1891 Sculcoates (not sure why he's on the 1891 census as Arthur T L Moore).
Only marriage I see:
June 1892 Kings Lynn 4b 595
Thomas Langthorpe - Rachel Moore
:)
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thanks so much thats great :D
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this looks a possibility for Thomas (married to Rachel)'s birth reg
freeBMD
Thomas langthorp
Dec qtr 1861
Patrington
9d 224
Suz
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Thomas Langthorp was my grandfather's older brother - my grandfather William Langthorp 1876 - Thomas who married Rachel Moore 1861-1907. Their father John Langthorp who married Sarah Bailey on 30 Sept 1861. I was a Langthorp before marriage born in Hull but now in Australia. John Langthorp born Patrington but all his children born Keyingham - he had 9 children
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Kirsty as an afterthought - I have the Langthorp(e) family going back to 1630.
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hi
the last langthorp i have was 1630 william langthorp married to margaret rosse
did u know violet langthorp?shes my great grandmother she married john fraser and had 3 children...gilda,pat and ann
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I have Violet on my tree married 30 Sept 1933 with the 3 children so Violet was my first cousin once removed.
Nice to make contact with you - I have all my tree on both Ancestry and Genes Reunited. Regards Val
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yeh mines on ancestry too.....does that mean my nanna(gilda fraser)is ur cousin then?
i talk to another 2 cousins of urs....barry and geoff fraser
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Have just looked at my family tree and that makes her my 2nd cousin. Its now 12.02 here in Australia and still 18.4 degrees.
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its 01.12 pm and bloody freezing here ;D
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Violet Langthorp was my mother and she always said her father was born in the Patrington area, I have been to the Church at Patrington there are a few Langthorps buried there. His Father was a John Langthorp married Sarah Baily in 1861 at Swine. But Kirsty have you not seen the family tree I gave to your Nana my sister Gilda. John Langthorp Thomas's father was a plumber/glazier.
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no i havent seen it and thomas wasnt violets father it was richard his brother...i have got further then when i last posted about the langthorp tree....is ur name pat..i know that richard died in hull(not sure where)havent got thomas` date of death and i also know who thomas`s parents where and theirs after that i have got to 1630 on the langthorp surname...
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yes this your great aunty pat, I have got up to Robert born 1659 died 1732 Married to Anne Laughton in 1684 at Roos. But I would love to swop things with you and find out how you found Richard being Mam's dad. Please give me a ring for a natter but you will have to ask Debbie for my number , Tell her it is ok I said so. You have done great to get all that as we have been at it for two years and getting no where.
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hi pat
i got nanna vi`s birth cert(well a copy)iv been doing it for 4 years.....
yeh see what we can do..
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ok
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Kirsty I am sorry if I sounded cross but I have been told that we have been on the family tree for over 6yrs this one and the fraser one we now know the my grandad changed his name from FRIESER to FRASER and therefore we cannot find anything about him. As for the Langthorp's you have done well because i was told by the register's office that my mam did not have a birth cert.
Keep up the good work. I will have to try harder as they say at school.
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apology accepted...yeh the frasers did change their name....grandad johns dad was born frederick jacob frieser then he changed it to jacob fraser then john fraser..and he was born jewish then converted to catholic when he married blanche baker...i have followed the friesers to krakow,poland but got stuck there.....i also have info on the baker side of the family,photos and just going off the langthorp family got back to 1400`s...(cant remember if it was late 1400`s)....before i did the family trees i bought loads of books,went to library and studied on the internet too.....i have 8 family trees on the go.....
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Yes my cousins in London have given me info on grandad and unless we know which village or what part of karkow he was born in we will never do anything so he is a full stop. I have got the baker side but grandad did not convert to catholic because he still went to the synagog sorry my spelling is awful. When we used to go for every holiday like easter and summer he went every saturday and on a sunday granny used to go to church it was funny the lies they told each other. I think he told every one he did just to keep the peace.
You had to know them they were the most complicated pair I have ever met.
My great Granny lived with them you see and boy was she a staunch catholic.
But enough of it all it does your head in we are getting nowhere with Uncle Ian's side because his parents never told him a thing. But he retires in 6wks so we will have a day in Wakefield which is were his grandad Osborne was from and see just what we can find. Like you I have books web sites and my eyes are crossed . Good Luck with your 8 and i think doing four is bad. Again Sorry for seaming cross I was not just very puzzled as to why I cannot find anything out. We even had a day in London at the National Arcives. NO LUCK THERE EVEN>
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Does anyone know of Henry Osborne we think he was borne in Wakefield. He married and lived in Hull and had three boys . John, (my father inlaw) Henry, and Ted. also Kathleen and I think another daughter I know her only as Doddie
He was in the first world war and had a head injury which affected him badley. I am married to his grandson Ian and he would love to know more about his family as his Dad and Mother told him nothing.
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if you put some birth,marriage and death dates pat i`l see if i can help x.....oh and have you got grandad johns dads death date?and his mams?
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thats just it Kirsty we do not know. Uncle ian has a marrage cert I have just found. Henry married a Lilian Brown in 1919 he was 24 she was 26 At that time it states he was a coal miner/Discharged soldier. We will have to go to Wakefield and look up the births there. But thankyou for your help when Ian retires we will have alot more time to concentrate on these. Being an only child he wants to know were he came from as we all do .
I posted this up because I thought there may be a cousin Ian knows nothing about out there. He has three cousins two Men and one woman. That is his whole family. Well apart from me and our lot. Your lot as well but no blood if you like BUT again thanks for the offer.