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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: Anste on Wednesday 06 May 09 04:20 BST (UK)
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Wondered if there was anyone looking for the Hynds Family in Ayrshire. My Isabella Fisher married a Thomas Hynd and had 14 children. They married in 1849 and Thomas died about 1900 and Isabella died in 1914.
Surely there must be one of the 14 children's descendants out there looking. Hoping for a lead or extra information to share, Annie
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Hi Annie,
Do you have a Tree on Ancestry for this family?. Children John, Jane , Isabella, Christina etc.
Trish
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Hi Trish, Yes, I have the children's names.
James, Peter, James, John, Christina, Thomas, Henry, Alexander, Jane, Isabella, Thomas, William, Christina, Catherine and Daisy who was adopted.
As you can see two Thomas and Christinas, so assume first one died.
No, I am not on Ancestry, but I can have a look if this is on there, but only interested if there is more information. Do you know if there is more information on there? Annie
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Hello Annie,
Just in case you have not got this as you say the couple were married 1849. in your post.
Thomas Hynds, married Isibel Fisher, Mar/1847. New Monkland, Lanark.
several variations on the childrens births, ie Hynd, Hind.
Thomas, states on census he was born in Old Monkland, Lanark, and Isabella, states she was born in Monzie, Perthshire.
Regards.
Jonn.
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Hi Annie,
The tree is a personal one and seems to have been removed ???
There is another mentin of John Hynd but they do not even have parents names, so not much help. I will have another check with other childrens names tomorrow and get back to you if anything of relevance is there.
Cheers,
Trish
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Hello Annie,
You also state in your earlier post that Thomas Hynd, died about 1900. i think you will find that Thomas, actually died 1878. in Stevenston, Ayr. age 51 years.
His wife Isabella Hynd, is living in Stevenston, Ayr, in 1881. she is a Widow, aged 50 years. also in the house is son Henry, aged 23 years, and daughter Christina, aged 12 years.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Thanks for that Jonn, noted Thomas Hynds death. The Fisher family did come from Monzie, Perthshire, where I am stuck at this time with the Fisher family.
Every little bit helps, Annie
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Hello Annie,
Peter Hynd, the oldest son of Thomas Hynd, and Isabella Fisher, married Christina Watson, on 04/March/1870. Ardrossan, Ayr.
They had a daughter Christina Fisher Hynd, who married a Dr. James Armstrong Harris. This Christina, died 30/03/1928. in London Temperance Hospital.
Peter Hynd, himself died 1904. in Troon, Ayr. aged 54 years.
His wife Christina Watson, died 03/03/1933. Toronto, Canada, aged 81 years.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Hi Jonn, I had Peter married to Christina Watson, but not all those details. So thank you for that bit.
Are these people in your tree? or was this a look up. I guess I am also looking for someone who might be looking for Isabella Fisher, I know it is a long shot but anything is worth a try and all the extras you pick up on the way are important too.
I have Isabella's information back to her parents and siblings in Gilmerton/Monzie, Perthshire.
Thanks again,
Annie
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Although it has been an age since your original posting, hopefully you are still monitoring this thread.
The following information is extracted from http://www.ayrshire-roots.co.uk/index1.php Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald Intimation database and placed in chronological order. Interestingly, the family surname is recorded as “HYND” with no “s”.
N.B. The date shown in the above database is NOT the date of occurrence but the Newspaper’s Date of issue in which the intimation was published.
Thomas Hynd passed late-September / early-October 1878 at Broomfield Cottage, Stevenson, aged 51 years. His Intimation was published in the 05th October 1878 edition of the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald
A William Hynd, described as the youngest son of the late Thomas Hynd, passed probably early February 1881 at Brookfield Cottage, Stevenson. His Intimation was published in the 12th February 1881 edition of the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald.
Isabella Fisher Hynd, wife of Dr James Armstrong Harris and daughter of Peter Hynd, died at London Temperance Hospital. Her Intimation was published in the 30th March 1928 edition of the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald. An English Death Certificate would clarify any confusion regarding the lady’s forename. The Intimation is at odds with subscriber “jonn”s advice dated 10 May 2009 where he notes the forename “Christina”.
As Peter Hynd’s Intimation was published in the 15th January 1904 edition of the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald, he passed probably during the first two weeks of that month. The Intimation recorded his passing at Troon, aged 54 years and husband of Christina Watson. It did NOT refer to children, eg. ..... and father of ....., and NO Intimations were noted from same.
John Hynd, son of Peter Hynd of Troon (see immediately above) passed in South Africa probably late February / very early March 1929 as his Intimation was published in the 08th March 1929 edition of the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald.
James Hynd, son of Peter Hynd of Troon (see above) passed in Sydney, Australia probably early mid April 1938. His Intimation was published in the 22nd April 1938 edition of the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald.
N.B. James’ Death Certificate can be ordered from https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?8
James HYND, Registration Number 4379/1938, Father’s Given Name PETER, Mother’s Given Name CHRISTINA, Location NEWTOWN.
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Yes, I’m still here, but been lazy lately, thank you for information, will peruse newspapers too as can all add to family tree.
Still looking for Isabella’s father Peter Fisher. His father John Fisher and Margaret Robertson according to his DC.
Thank you again as it helps to inspire me to continue on.
Annie
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More info:
James Henry HYDE enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force on 7th January 1916. The following is extracted from his enlistment and service documentation:
Unit: 3rd Field Company Engineers
Service No: 7005
Rank: Sapper
Born: Troon, Scotland
Religion: Presbyterian
Age: 38 years 5 months (born circa August 1878?)
Occupation: Electrical Mechanic
Postal Address: 24 Springside Street, Rozelle, NSW
NOK: Wife, Ethel HYDE, 24 Springside Street, Rozelle, NSW
Medals/Awards: 1914/15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal.
During August 1918, his record reveals SIX entries relating to his right knee; five occurrences in France and one in England. The five must have been sufficiently serious to warrant his transfer to England where better treatment was available. He returned to Australia onboard His Majesty’s Australian Transport (HMAT) “MAMARI”, arriving 14th February 1919 and, two weeks later, was
“discharged from the AIF in consequence of medical unfitness”, “Invalid. Synovitis right knee, awaiting first available transport to 2MD” (2nd Military District).
Note: Synovitis is often the result of repeated joint bleeds that are not treated early or correctly. With synovitis, the synovial membrane thickens and grows more blood vessels, causing even more bleeding into the joint. The 2nd Military District was an administrative district of the Australian Army that covered most of New South Wales, with its headquarters in Sydney.
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Wow, very interesting, love wee stories with people. So he came to Sydney, I am 200 Kms north of Sydney. I have list of peters children, sounds like your line. Seems only Isabella, Peter, my line and Thomas USA line are the only people searching. Do you have Isabella’s history, as I said her parents Peter and Christian Gowan’s have taken Ruth in USA and I some 20 years, but have just about decided Peter Fisher Snr was an only child. My Mother many years ago said, Peter was picked up in the gutter and the minister gave him his name. Well sounds just like an old man telling a story to his grandchildren to me, but we even tried to find a minister named Fisher in that area, but none. We think his mother married John Fisher, but years later married a George Robertson. Still looking.
Have noted all your comments re Hynd Family, let me know if you want any info re Fisher Family. Annie
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Further info. A James Henry HYDE was buried in Stockton Cemetery, Fullerton Rd, Newton, NSW.
See here for headstone image: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=6453806#images
Interestingly, his age is recorded as 62 Years ( DOB 1862?? ) which does not accord with his calculated DOB upon enlistment above. Did he, like so many others, falsify his age at enlistment OR is this a second James Henry HYDE?
N.B. The 3 letter trigraph “ACI” overlaid on the image indicates “Australian Cemeteries Index”.
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I think the Stockton cemetery you need is in Stockton, near newcastle, NSW, half an hours drive from me.
Have found James Henry Hynd, aged 62, died 5th June, 1954.
If you go onto findagrave, you need to register I think but otherwise free. Covers many countries. I have found lots of info on there as sometimes people add other information like siblings etc.
Think it’s is James, so he must have moved to newcastle in the Hunter Valley.
If you can’t get it email me and I will send copies.
Annie