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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Buckinghamshire => Topic started by: mamakaz on Tuesday 05 May 09 16:41 BST (UK)
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hi there, x
i already posted this in the North riding forum....and thanks to the link...
MUST SEE LINK If your ancestors came from Bucks posted by allycat i married up my
plants to their maternal lines.
i was just wondering if anyone on RC is researching the plant family,
and if there are any plants out there that can claim this family?
my grt granny was Annie Plant 1903-1984 she married Charles Bruce Aitken in 1923,
i have their marriage cert which shows Arthur G Plant (platelayer) as her father,
so if anyone can claim and/or correct the info i have, would be great to hear rom you,
kaz, x
in the 1871 England Census
Arthur George Plant 1yrs b 1870/Son born Charndon, Buckinghamshire,
dad, Joseph 30yrs b 1841 head born Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Mum, Sarah 27yrs b 1844 wife, born Twyford, Buckinghamshire
living in Twyford, Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Joseph Plant agricultural labourerer
Sarah Plant
William James Plant 7yrs/son
Mary Anne Plant 5yrs/daughter
Thomas Jesse Plant 4yrs/son
Frederic Alfred Plant 2yrs/son
Arthur George Plant 1yrs/son
also i noticed on the census in the same street is...
Isaac plant 37yrs agricultural labour
Martha/wife 33yrs
Miriam?/daughter 13yrs
Diana/daughter 11yrs
John/son 9yrs agricultural labourer (at 9 yrs old?)
Samual/son 7yrs
Betsy/daughter 4yrs
Thomas/son 2yrs
Anne/daughter 2months
could be a brother of Joseph?
1901 England Census
Arthur G Plant b 1870 31yrs, Charndon, Buckinghamshire,(head)
his wife Elizabeth b 1873 28yrs, Bedale, Yorkshire,
they lived in Darlington, St John, Durham
Arthur was a platelayer N.E.R ?
Williamth Plant 4yrs son (says William on original page)
Lilian Plant 3yrs daughter
John T Lamb 19yrs Boarder, platelayer
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then in 1911 census they were living in
East Cowton, North allerton, County Yorkshire, North Riding
Lillian Plant 12yrs daughter
Annie Plant 7yrs daughter (my grt granny)
Arthur Plant 5yrs son
William is missing in 1911, he would have been 14yrs, would he have been
to young to leave behind? or maybe he died.
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Arthur PLANT,1871 in Charndon, Bucks, England
parents
Joseph PLANT b: 1841 in Charndon, Bucks., England
Sarah HODGES b: 11 MAY 1845 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Married: 24 DEC 1863 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 10 children all born in in Charndon, Bucks, England...
Mary Ann 1866
Thomas 1867
Frederick 1869
Arthur b: 1871
Elizabeth 1873
Herbert 1873
Kezia 1876
John 1878
Florence 1879
Edith 1881
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Sarah HODGES parents
Thomas HODGES b: 10 DEC 1797 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mary RAY b: 1809 in Adstock, Bucks., England
Married: 31 AUG 1829 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 14 children, all born in Twyford, Bucks
Samuel 20 DEC 1829
Sarah 12 DEC 1830
James 22 JAN 1832
Robert 6 OCT 1833
William 12 APR 1835
Thomas 10 SEP 1837
Jesse 6 OCT 1839
Harriett 17 OCT 1841
Edward 19 NOV 1843
Sarah 11 MAY 1845
Benjamin 27 DEC 1846
George 2 APR 1848
Mark 5 JAN 1851
Thomas 23 MAY 1853
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Thomas Hodges parents...
Father: John HODGES b: 25 DEC 1773 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mother: SARAH
(In 1881, Thomas was a widowed pauper, lodging with the family of Joseph and Sarah Plant
(my grt, grt, grt grandparents) in Twyford)
they had six children, all born in Twyford, Bucks
Thomas 10 DEC 1797
James 18 MAY 1800
Samuel 15 AUG 1802
Elizabeth 31 MAR 1805
John 29 NOV 1807
Susannah 3 FEB 1811
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John Hodges parents...
William HODGES b: ABT 1743 in Twyford, Bucks., England
ELIZABETH
they had 10 children, all born in tywford, bucks...
William 6 MAY 1770
Mary 12 JAN 1772
John 25 DEC 1773
Elizabeth 15 SEP 1776
Thomas 29 AUG 1779
Nancy 21 OCT 1781
Sarah 30 NOV 1783
Jane 20 AUG 1786
Abigail 6 SEP 1789
Rebecca 13 FEB 1791
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William Hodges parents...
John HODGES b: in Twyford, Bucks, England
Ann SMITH
29 APR 1739 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 10 children in Twyford, Bucks, ...
Elizabeth 24 FEB 1739
Ann 14 MAR 1741
William ABT 1743
Mary 25 MAR 1744
John 27 JUL 1746
Thomas 19 FEB 1748
Catherine 3 FEB 1750
Sarah 3 FEB 1750
Samuel 3 JAN 1753
Sarah 14 MAR 1756
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Joseph's parents (Arthurs Father(my grt grt grandad))
James Plant b 1816 in Charndon, Bucks,
Kesia Parker b 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Married: 3 OCT 1800 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
they had 4 children all born in Charndon, Buckinghamshire, England
John 1849
Jonas 1852
Jane 1854
Jemima 1857
Martha parker nee Roberts (Kesia's mother) was staying with them in the 1861 census
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Kesia Parkers parents...
Richard PARKER b 1777 in Piddington, Oxfordshire, England
Martha ROBERTS b 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks, England
they had 8 children...
Richard 4 OCT 1801 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Mary 19 MAY 1804 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
John 16 OCT 1808 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Thomas 9 APR 1811 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Isaac 20 FEB 1814 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kerenhappuck 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kesia 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
William 17 JAN 1819 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
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Martha Roberts nee Parker (Kesia's mother) parents
Richard ROBERTS b: 1746 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
Death MAY 1824 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Burial 15 MAY 1824 St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Ann DRAPER
Married: 31 DEC 1770 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
children...
John ROBERTS 21 JUL 1771 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Martha ROBERTS 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
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Richard Roberts (Martha's father) parents...
Richard ROBERTS
Sarah PARKER b: 18 AUG 1718 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
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Sarah Parkers parents
John PARKER b: ABT 1680 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
MARY
they had 9 children, all born in Marsh Gibbon
Anne 7 MAY 1704
Anne 16 DEC 1705
Mary 28 JAN 1708
Elizabeth 31 JAN 1710
John PARKER MAY 1712
Martha PARKER 20 OCT 1714
Sarah PARKER 18 AUG 1718
Thomas PARKER 5 JUN 1721
Rebecca PARKER 20 AUG 1722
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See also:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,378611.0.html
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Hi,
My daughter just rang me to notify me of your search, as I am searching for the Plant family of Charndon as well, I am so excited...
I will tell you my story so far,
We have always known that my Mother was adopted, but had no knowledge of her family, she was born in 1933. Recently her adoption papers have come to light, and I have been researching ever since.
She was born in Charndon to a Rosetta Spencer, who is the daughter of a Ernest and Kezia Spencer. Kezia was formerly a Plant. She was born 1884.
I will post back tomorow when I have all the details of what I know in front of me. Just wanted to respond now as this is a side of our family that I am just begining to find out about.
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hi teddy, x
its so nice to hear from someone researching Plants, at last ;D
(hugs to dan, xxxx)
ive not been on for a while as my pc had a virus and i had to re format, so i lost all my research notes and BDM certs (that will teach me not to back up) about 4 months work up the swannee :'(
ive had a quick look and found this....
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Hello,
Wow, you have been busy, I think you have found pretty much the same as me.
I have received the marriage certificate of Ernest Fred Spencer and Kezia Ellen Plant dated Feb 11th 1904,
Fathers name Joseph Plant
Witnesses - Jesse Thomas Plant
- Florence J Plant
Florence has signed her name but I cant make out her middle name.
I also have the birth certificate of Rosetta Spencer, born 1913 to Ernest and Kezia Spencer in Werner Terrace, Charndon, and my mothers original birth certficate she is Margaret Rose Spencer born 25th April 1937 (sorry put wrong year in yesterdays post)
She was also born in Werner Terrace, Charndon. which I found out is still there.
But I cannot find anything further about my grandmother Rosetta.
So going back again
I think we have the same results
1891 census
Joseph Plant Head
Sarah Plant wife
Thomas Jesse Son (and witness at wedding)
Frederick A Son
Herbert E son
Kezia E daughter
Albert J son
Florence J daughter (another witness)
Edith R daughter
Charles H son
Edward J son
And then on the 1881 census
appears the names of Arthur Plant 1871
I know I also put the wrong the year of birth for Kezia yesterday, sorry I was just so surprised to find your post, I had to respond immediately and did not have any info in front of me.
this is all so exciting
Love TeddyXXX
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Hi Mamakaz,
Just had a really good look at the marriage certificate, and I think the middle name of Florence is Jemima.
I do believe that My Great grandmother Kezia, and your Arthur were brother and sister.
lol TeddyXXX
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Morning teddy, x i think we are deffo related...
ive been researching Rosetta this morning and found this...(i dont think its the right Rosetta)
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Now this couple appear in Oneworldtree on Ancestry.co.uk, but the date is wrong for Rosetta...(Oneworldtree could be a typo )
Name: Rosetta Spencer
Birth, 14 Jul 1915, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England
Death, 12 Jun 1964, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England
Spouse, Matthew Stanger
Name, Matthew Stanger
Birth, 23 Nov 1899, Bainton, Northamptonshire, England
Death, 1974, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England
Parents, Arthur Stanger, Rebbeca Burton
Spouse, Rosetta Spencer
i have found lots more possibles for Rosetta, what is her exact birth date please?
and does she have a middle name?
i would love to find out more about her,
cheers, kaz, x
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Morning Kaz,
Your so dedicated I love you.
I think the Rosetta you have found could be my grandmother. Her actual date of birth is 14th July 1913, although your research shows the date to be 1915, I think we both have seen date discrepancies during our searches, so she could be the one. She has no middle name. I will have a look at the website you have mentioned..
This is just so facinating, a few months ago we had no knowledge of my mothers real family, then her brother (adoptive family) died and his belongings were sent to her and there in the middle of some paperwork were her adoption papers, and here we are..
Mother is still very much alive and well, and was stunned when I informed her that I might have found a relative.
Mum always said her mum was in service at a local manor house, and that she became pregnant whilst there.
I have just looked at my mothers original birth certificate, and it states that Rosetta was living at 13, Werner Terrace, CALVERT, Charndon.
and on Rosettas birth certificate she was born at 6 Werner Terrace, so thats where Ernest and Kezia lived.
Cant find any other children for Ernest and Kezia either...so far
love Teddy (Sue)
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hi yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,
ok, that has to be her, woo hoooooooooooooooooo
awww big hugs kisses, xxxx
so....
arthur and kezia were brother n sister,
arthurs daughter annie and
kezias daughter rosetta were cousins,
annies son bruce aitken
rosettas daughter Margaret 2nd cousins?
bruces daughter linda (my mum)
and Margarets daughter (you) 3rd cousins?
then me! lol
ok, we need to find the Manor house Rosetta worked at, and i also found this...
ernests mum n dad...
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so his mum was kezia aswell!
ill see if i can find any more kids of Rosetta and Matthew Stanger, back soon, x
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ok, ive found 5 possible children of rosetta and matthew, ill send the info in pm as they are most likely still living, x
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i found this....
Waddesdon Manor
http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-waddesdonmanor
i wonder if this is the place?
it was owned by the Rothschild's
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Hiya,
just to add to your family tree as well
my daughter Victoria
my son Daniel
and you......................4th cousins
I'll have a look at Waddesdon Manor, Crickey! the Rothchilds.
maybe they had a list of employees dated from 1937 ?
I'll keep searching.
mmmwah XXXX
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Just applied for marriage certificate of Rosetta Spencer and Matthew Stanger,
Will then know if we are on right track.
:-*
teddyxxx
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excellant ;D
i would have done the same, with the birth date (not year, lol) matching,
well, fingers crossed, im excited too, its great when you get a lead to follow,
im away for a while, kids are starving lol
ill do some more searching tonight, kaz, x
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Hello Kaz,
Marriage Cert has arrived this morning, have sent copy via email.
At last I think I have found my grandmother.
Love and kisses
TeddyXXXXXXXX