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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: morgany on Sunday 03 May 09 15:51 BST (UK)
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Hi there - I am on the trail of the Edger/Edgar family and have been searching in Cumberland pre 1844 and have been quite successful (with a great deal of help from the roots forum). I am giving that a rest for a while and trying to fill in some gaps at the DUrham end.
My grandfather was John Edgar/Edger who was apparently born in a little house in Tow Law in 1875. His father's name was Robert. Robert was born in Cumberland and it would seem that by the time John was 6, he was living back in Cumberland with his father and ? step mother.
Family rumours have it that John's mother died when he was 4 days old and no-one knows a) wether she and RObert were married or b) John's mother's name (or maiden name).
I am told that John's mother was buried in Stanley churchyard.
Can anyone help me to find either John's mother's name, maiden name or anything about her.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Tricia
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Hello Tricia
just putting 81 details up for reference
RG11 5190/13/20
19 Keekle Terrace Hensingham Cumbs
Robert Edgar 37 head coal miner b Parton Cumbs
Mary Ann 25 wife b Whitehaven Cumbs
John 6 son b Durham
Mary Ann 0 dau b Keekle Cumbs
Peter 30 lodger b Braystones Cumbs
Ann 73 widow b Blaydon Durham
assume Ann was his mother and maybe Peter his brother
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found the family in 61
RG9 3951/42/31
Wyndham Street Cleator Cumbs
Peter Edger55 coal miner b Workington Cumbs
Ann 53 wife b Durham
Thomas 24 son coal miner b Workington
Robert 19 son ditto b ditto
George 17 son ditto b Moresby
Peter 9 son b St Bees
James 28 son coal miner b Workington
Jane 13 dau b Moresby
Michael Burns 23 married coal miner lodger b Ireland
Mary Davison 30 visitor dressmaker b Moresby
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Not having any luck with 71 at all his family are still at same address as 61 census minus Peter the dad
RG10 5261/104/23
Ann Edgar 66 widow head b Blaydon Durham
John 40 son iron ore miner b Workington
Peter 22 son ditto b St Bees
Mary Davidson 60 sister unmarried b Workington
Thomas Edgar 35 married b Workington
Sarah 30 wife b Ireland
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Have you tried sending for John's birth certificate?
This might be it BUT I'm not familiar with Durham so don't know if it's close enough.
1Q 1875 Weardale, Durham 10a 351 - Was his birthday in late 1874 or the early part of 1875?
Laurina
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If you ordered Robert's marriage certificate to Mary Ann this should tell you if Robert had been married previously.
This could be it . . . but it's a long shot.
Robert Edger - and on the same page Mary Ann Downie
2Q 1880 Whitehaven, Cumbria 10b 867
Laurina
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Hi everyone,
Many thanks for the help this far ..... I have the details from the cenus's (censi ??) but I didn't have the details of marriages and occupations so many many thanks for that.
I have got back as far as looking for the father of a Robert Edger who married Mary Crosthwaite in St. Bees (solemnised 16/10/1716) - its seems that the family were prolific breeders and seemed to have all called their boys Robert, John, Thomas, William, Peter or Jonathan and then they spread out all over the Workington/Whitehaven/St. Bees/Harrington area. So I have a real task with that side.
I thought it would be fairly simple to find the name of John's mother in Tow Law - I have questioned aunt and mother and John's mother definitely died 4 days after he was born and was buried in Stanley although I did query why she was buried in Stanley if they lived and John was born in Tow Law. The general concensus of opinion is that maybe the mother was from Stanley but I think this is just general thoughts. I was going to visit Stanley churchyard but then discovered that the particular church wasn't built until after John's mother had died ???
I think I will email Durham Records Office because they haven't as yet put the deaths onto the computer database. Ordinarily I would visit but broken leg prevents driving at the moment.
Any futher help or suggestions through this forum would be greatly appreciated and many thanks for your help so far.
Tricia
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Hi to all
Isee you have some George Edgars in your ansestory.
Ihave been tryeing to trace a George Edgar without much luck and came upon this site by chance.
Can anyone PLEASE help?
All I know is his name and he lived on the Marche and Quey area of
Workington Combria when he met Gladys Farish[my grandmother]who had a
little girl out of wedlock[Frances].George never got to see my mum and we never knew what hapend to him.George moved away[posibly Scotland ]about?1934/5
please does any one know anything?
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Hi Jackie,
Sorry its taken me so long to get back. So, you are looking for a member of the Edgar family - what information have you got so far regarding full name, date of birth, place of birth etc. etc. Do you have a date or place of birth of your mother and what was the family name, you mention a surname but was that mum's birth name or did your gran later marry to that name. As you may have noticed, there are many Edgars in that area and its getting the right one - cos there are lots of Josephs and Georges - that will be the problem, so any info you have will help.
Get back soon
Kind regards
Tricia aka Morgany
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Weardale is close to Tow Law in relative terms and Tow Law came under Weardale 1894 - 1938 ( source Free BMD).
In terms of Stanley, are you aware there are two Stanleys in County Durham, one of which is Stanley Crook. DL15 9AN is the postcode of the local school so you can see it on google maps or another search site. As you will see it is very close to Tow law. Can I suggest you ask Adamand who has many details of gravestones in County Durham.
The other Stanley is more north of that as you will see on the maps.
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Hi, thanks for that info. I know the area very well and still have relatives in Tow Law - I have already communicated with Adamand re gravestones and he couldn't come up with anything. In desperation I got in touch with the Records Office and they don't have a record of a death in their area at that time for an Isabelle or Isabella Edgar but they did say that some records have got lost. So I think its going to be a case of going to the graveyard and having a look and hope that she actually had a headstone. My other slight problem is that according to my aunt Isabella was buried at Stanley (according to my grandfather) BUT I dont think they had actually finished building the church when Isabella was buried AND I can't understand why she would be buried in Stanley when she lived (and died) in Tow Law and there was a church there.
So keep digging I think. I am still waiting to hear back from the lady who is trying to find one of the old ancestors in Workington area. These are some of the ancestors of the ones in Tow Law
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Hi Morgany
Im on a beginers cours in the local school so my replys may not be as fast or good as id like but thanks for your reply.Ihave next to nothing to go on exept word pf mouth ,my gran was Gladys Farish, unmarrid,who had my mum
Frances Farish to a man caled[wethink] George Edgar from Workington Marche and Quey area she was born in 1934 in FlimbyNr Maryportand there
was an affiliation case for maintenans but we cant find any trace of it or him .
I would love to know what hapend to him and what kind of life he had,if I have family out there?My mum tryed to find him but nothing turned up .So now my family are all gon and Im doing this for mam and me too .
any help would be wonderfull.
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Hi Jackie,
I am going away for a few days and although I take the computer with me I don't really get a chance to use it very much so I probably won't get back to you for about a week.
In the meantime have you tried the Records Office (I think its in Workington) - don't worry if you haven't I think I still have a contact email address for them I can look that out for you.
Is your mum still with us or you the last one standing as it were? I can understand where you are coming from when you say you just want to find something so I will do what I can to help. Whereabouts in the country are you by the way?
Kind regards
Tricia
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Hi Tricia
I have been away to and have had no time to get back to the computer till now have only had internet put in today Previously doing beginers in the school over the road . Have only just got your kind mesage dated May
Yes mam and sister gon just me. I resived a reply from the Archive servises last week,they have records of the afilliation case between my grand parents and needed a chequ for photo coppys now waiting reply . Ihope this will give me enoph info to find George .this is the first break in years but Im very determind.
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Sorry for cuting you off Tricia Im still not used to these things yet but promis to let you know any news buy fror now
Jackie
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Hi There
I don't want to confuse things but my great grandfather, Michael Alfred King, was from Whitehaven and married Margaret Edgar in 1886 in Bessbrook,Northern Ireland. Her father was Hamilton Edgar..
Any connection??
Jardiner