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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: TonyDolphin on Friday 01 May 09 19:21 BST (UK)
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I have just returned back to my family research after about a ten year lay-off. I would appreciate any help for a silver surfer to catch up on technology :-) AND what is available these days in terms of Parish records?
My previous research stopped with my 2nd Gt. Grandfather Thomas DOLPHIN b. 8/11/1845 (62 Honey St, Aston) who later pops up in various censors. He married Hannah Massey from Cheedle in 1853. Thomas's birth cert. shows his father as John DOLPHIN & mother Elizabeth DOLPHIN nee Wallis both of Aston, Birmingham.
I would appreciate any help - thank you.
Cannot travel to Records office as I reside abroad ::)
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Hi Tony :)
Does it give an occupation for John?
The 1861 census has
RG9/2134 20 34
Birmingham
Essex Street
John Dolphin, lodger, wid, 58, Printer (Compositor), b. Tamworth
Thomas, son, 15, Striker Iron, b. B'ham
However, tracing these 2 back to 1851, John's wife is Pheobe:
1851
HO107/2058 307 57
Birmingham, Warwickshire
(sorry, can't read address)
John Dolfin, head, 48, Printer Pressman, b. Warwickshire Tamworth
Phebe, wife, 39, b. Birmingham
James, son, 16, Brass Caster, b. Aston
Ann, dau, 13, b. do.
David, son, 11, Gun Trade, b. do.
William, son, 9, Errand Boy, b. do.
Thomas, son, 6, b. do.
Elizabeth Bradley, lodger, 15, b. Birmingham
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Haha! In 1841 this John's wife is Elizabeth:
1841
HO107/1149/12 5 3
Aston, Warwickshire
Duddeston & Nechells
Bloomsbury Street
John Dolphin, 35, Printer J
Elizabeth, 25
John, 7
James, 5
Ann, 3
David, 1
All born in county
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Possible BMDs:
Death Elizabeth Dolphin Mar 1848 Birmingham 16 247
Marriage John Dolphin - Phoebe Bradley Mar 1849 Birmingham 16 357
The IGI at www.familysearch.org has a tempting christening:
John Dolphin
3 Oct 1802 Tamworth, Warwickshire
parents David Dolphin and Ann
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A Christening off Ann Dolphin 10 Dec 1837 Aston birmingham
Father John Dolphin and Mother Elizabeth
Also David Dolphin 4th April 1841 same parents
Sorce
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyWarwick_(A-M).htm#B
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Thank you Tati,
All the information you have posted fits in with other information I already have, also I can progress the family though birth certificates up to the present day.
I did not know about the remarriage of John in 1849 to Phoebe or her subsequent death by the 1861 census when he is shown as a widower and a lodger but still a printer. Also it shows him being born at Tamworth.
It is I think quite possible that the birth you found in 1803 could well be him. Tamworth I would imagine would have have been a very small town at that time and there would not have been many John Dolphin's to speak of?
It does give me lots of food for thought - and avenues for probing further.
Before I left the UK I gave all my reseach documents to a relative so I will have to get copies of all the birth certificates etc and start to back trace and prove the links.
Once again many thanks for your help.
Tony D
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Thanks Denise,
That fills in some more gaps, this is going to cost me a fortune in birth certificates ::)
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I have managed to find a David & Ann (nee Edwards) Dolphin married on 9/10/1786.
But I now have a bit of a dilema inasmuch that thier place of marriage and subsiquent children, (Other children James, Ann, Hannah, David) are all shown as being born at TaNworth, Warrickshire. I find there is a place called Tanworth south of Birmingham.
Has the LDS confused the two and they are different families. If the latter then is the date of birth of John shown 3/10/1802 at Tamworth valid? And does the trail on LDS finish with him at Tamworth as he may not be related to John & Ann from Tanworth despite the cross indexing on the LDS.
Beam me up Scotty ....
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Moderator - can you plase close this link and I will start a new thread regarding the Dolphin's in Tamworth. Thank you.
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John.
John had been married to A
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John. After which time the family drifted backwards and forwards over the Worcester border into Yardley and also Redditch.
John had been married to Susanna DEITZ and had 2 children DavidHenry and Sophia. David jnr died and along with Susanna, he then ,married Elizabeth WALLIS, they had John, James,Ann, William , David, William,and Thomas. Jon DOLKPHIN then married PHEBE BRADLEY Nee DANGERFIELD.
If you would like to know more please repl and I will gladly share any info.
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John. After which time the family drifted backwards and forwards over the Worcester border into Yardley and also Redditch.
John had been married to Susanna DEITZ and had 2 children DavidHenry and Sophia. David jnr died and along with Susanna, he then ,married Elizabeth WALLIS, they had John, James,Ann, William , David, William,and Thomas. Jon DOLK
HIN then married PHEBE BRADLEY Nee DANGERFIELD.
If you would like to know more please repl and I will gladly share any info.
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John. Priorto this time the family drifted backwards and forwards over the Worcester border into Yardley and also Redditch.
John had been married to Susanna DEITZ and had 2 children DavidHenry and Sophia. David jnr died and along with Susanna, he then married Elizabeth WALLIS, they had John, James,Ann, William , David, William,and Thomas. Jon DOLHIN then married PHEBE BRADLEY Nee DANGERFIELD.
If you would like to know more please repl and I will gladly share any info.
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Oh my Lord!
I think we may need to communicate. I have just had a reply from a gentleman who kindly went into the records office and found the following information for me:- Quote
'These are from the parish records of Tanworth in Arden, there was no Dolphins in the Tamworth Warwickshire parish records between 1895 to 1805.
Baptism No 32 John son of David and Ann Dolphin Gct 3rd 1802. The fathers name David was not very clear so as proof the marriage record for the parents is Tanworth Page 96 no. 381 David Dolphin to Ann Edwards by license on 9th October 1786 in presence of Nancy Waring John Edwards.' Unquote.
It would appear that we may be related by the above mentioned John son of David :)
I have quite a bit on our family after John's son Thomas, who had a son also called Thomes my grandfather. It would appear that at some time Thomas son of John married and moved to Birmingham the Thomas son of Thomas moved to Walsall - whence my father was born.
I'm lost for words ...........
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Hi All
wonder if I can step in and ask a question? I have read with much interest on your listing and was almost shocked to see we could well have a link with yours and my family
My Great Grandfather was a George Dolphin born 1871 Warwickshire county of Aston in Birmingham. His wife was Annie Conlon they lived at
25 - 9 Cheapside Birmingham or better known as Warwickshire
His Father was also a George Dolphin born 1844
And his father was a Thomas Dolphin born 1815 in Worcester
And was listed as a Shoe Maker.
I would be greatfull if you could get back to me. Would be nice to know the full history of my Dolphin Family
The family used to say the Dolphin family once had land and money and then something happend and they somehow lost it???
Thanks
Joseph
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John.
John had been married to A
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Hi its fantactic we must be from the same family please contact me joseph.conlon@homail.co.uk
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HELLO THERE
I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF RESEARCHING MY FAMILY TREE AND THINK I AM RELATED TO YOU
I HAVE A THOMAS DOLPHIN WHO MARRIED HANNAH IN WALSALL IF THEY ARE RELATED TO YOU PLEASE REPLY TO ME
CASSY
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Did you get my mail Cassy?
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Hi, It's been a while since your last message here, but I have only recently found my Dolphin connection. Bridget Wise born Upton Warren, Bromsgrove (1764) married Rev Thomas Cattell in Leamington Spa in 1797. Bridget's Parents were Matthew Wise Esq and Martha Dolphin of Birmingham 1735. I believe Martha's Father was Edward Dolphin. Any connections?
Jane
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The only Edward DOLPHIN I have on my tree is Edward B.1857 at Solihull, I have no mention of a Martha. Edward was christened at St Aphledge, Solihull on 16th Sept 1857, his father was Edwin Avery DOLPHIN, Sorry I cannot be of any more help
Regards Tony Dolphin
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Going further back...
Does anyone have any information on the Dolphins from the 1600s and further back?
I am related to the branch who ended up at Moss House, Shenstone in the 17th century. The house came into the family through marriage in 1609. Before this they were in Yardley (where much of the family remained). I have been trying to piece together a family tree from the parish records of St Edburgha's, Yardley.
I was wondering if anyone has any further information on the early Dolphins?
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The only Edward DOLPHIN I have on my tree is Edward B.1857 at Solihull, I have no mention of a Martha. Edward was christened at St Aphledge, Solihull on 16th Sept 1857, his father was Edwin Avery DOLPHIN, Sorry I cannot be of any more help
Regards Tony Dolphin
Just taking a look at Edwin Avery Dolphin. It looks to me like he was actually Edwin Avery. And Edward Dolphin was actually Edward Avery. Edwin does appear to have been christened Edwin Avery Dolphin, but is born to a John Avery and Elizabeth nee Dolphin. He is christened in Tanworth in Arden in 1825. Strangely John Avery and Elizabeth Dolphin don't marry until 1842, when John is 50 and Elizabeth 43. In the 1851 census, they are listed as John Avery, Elizabeth Avery, and Edwin Avery. I can't find an Edward Avery Dolphin christened, but there is an Edward Avery christened in 1857, Solihull, to Edwin Avery.