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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: bill0765 on Wednesday 29 April 09 23:53 BST (UK)
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hi robert clark emigrated in 1845 to usa with his dad robert b1796 and mum margaret b1799 .i have him in 1850 census kirkland oneida new york .after that i have followed a few leads but they seem to be different roberts .please note that james clark my gggrandad b1836 moved back to blyth northumberland wed elizabeth kell in 1861 .he was a master mariner .
i followed a robert who wed a bertha schulz in michigan but he was born in 1835 .can you find the right one .
bill clark
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For reference:
1850, Kirkland
Robert (age 55) occupation Miller, Margaret (50), Jennett (25), Nancy (22), Jame (18), James (14), George (12), Robert (9)
All born Scotland
1860, Kirkland
Robert Clark, age 67, Grist Mill tender; Nancy age 30; George, age 22, Factory Employee; Maggie, age 17, Factory Employee
All born Scotland except Maggie, born England
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Looking at the 1900 census, I tried searches for
Robert Clark, born c1841 in Scotland, immigrated 1845 (+/- 5 years)
Robert, born c1841 in Scotland, immigrated 1845 (+/- 5 years)
and do not see him.
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Sorry, I'm not finding anything helpful.
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i have a possible 1870 census robert age 28 detroit ward 7 wayne michigan wife helene age 25 (harriet later ) .in 1880 census robert is only 36 wife harriet 34 detroit wayne michigan .in 1900 census robert 54 and harriett 51 .they had 9 children.this robert died before the 1910 census .
have tried robert and bertha 1880 census monroe michigan but his dad was john .
bill
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hi
ive just found marriage for this robert clark and harriet hilling in trenton wayne michigan date 23/4/1869 .can you get parent info from certificate .also harriet died 20/5/1929 dad robert hilling mum ann smith
bill
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There are Michigan marriages from that time frame here: http://labs.familysearch.org/ I don't see a certificate for Robert & Harriet, but there appears to be one for daughter Mable.
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The Robert in Wayne, Michigan seems also to be there in 1860 with some other Clarks from Scotland, altho this isn't a game-ender:
1860 > MICHIGAN > WAYNE > 1-WD DETROIT
Series: M653 Roll: 565 Page: 41
Possibly a better bet is this Robert in 1860 who is residing with the Navin family of Yonkers, NY:
1860 > NEW YORK > WESTCHESTER > YONKERS
Series: M653 Roll: 880 Page: 469
CLARK ROBT 18 M W SCOT NY WESTCHESTER YONKERS 1860
Still not great since Yonkers is abt 240 miles from Oneida.
Nick
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hi nick
i agree that robert was in yonkers in 1860 farming .i looked at 8 possibles in 1900 census .the only one that stands out is whiteford ,monroe,michigan wife bertha then caroline .robert was born in march 1841 in dumfriesshire according to 1841 scotland census .
however the lds say that this robert was born in dumbarton.can this be checked .
bill
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hi again
well i think i have thr right robert clark.
1870 in joliet,will,illinois age 27
1880 in joliet ,will , robert clarke age 39,wife mary age29,robert age 4 ,agnes age 2.
1900 census robert p clark b1840 joliet ,will,illinois wife sadie .
marriage robert clark to mary ann green july 13 1875 in jackson
he died before the 1920 census in illinois .
can i check parents from marriage or death certificate
bill
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On the Illinois death index, there is a Robert B. Clark who died 19 Nov. 1918 in Joliet. You can see it here: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html According to that site, death certificates do have parents' names & birthplace on them.
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I don't think the Robert Clark in Joliet, Illinois is yours. On the 1900 census there is a nephew named Eugene Clark, born Feb 1878 in Canada listed with the family. I found a birth registration for a Eugene Clark born 5 Feb 1878 in Ontario and his parents are listed as David Clark and Charlotte Baker. I then found a marriage registration in Ontario for David Clark and Charlotte Baker and he listed his parents as John and Catherine Clark.
Jacquie
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hi
its all a bit confusing because i found eugenie on the 1881 canada census .mulmur simcoe south ontario .shes a girl aged 3 .
bill
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I just took a second look at the birth registration for Eugene Clark and it does have an "F" for sex. The informant on the birth registration was not the mother or father so maybe the person made a mistake.
Here is a link to the 1891 census for Mulmur, Ontario which has Eugene, male, 13 with his parents, David and Charlotte:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0683/
Added: It would appear that the birth registration and 1881 census were in error by listing the sex as "F". I have now found a marriage for Eugene Clark, son of David Clark and Charlotte Baker to Emma Christina Sinclair in Ontario in 1910.
Jacquie
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hi jacquie
well it could be roberts great nephew because he had a brother john born 1824 scotland and he had about 9 kids .cant find him on 1850 census .he had a son john born 1849 .may have had a david .
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hi shelley
i have tried that link you gave me a few times .its not available to me .can you help .
bill
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Which one, the Illinois one or Family Search Labs? You could try putting "Illinois death index" or "family search labs" into a Google search and click on the first few results. If that doesn't work, it may just be your computer.
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hi shelley
have tried the illinois death link a few times and on other computers .cant get in .can anyone confirm this roberts parents in joliet wll illinois .wife mary/sadie
others
robert clark wife harriet detroit wayne michigan
robert clark wife mary harmony rock wiconsin
robert e clark wife mary a douglas wisconsin
can anyone look these up for me or advise best way .parents of robert should be robert clark and margaret weild
thanks bill
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You could try ordering the death certificate. Further information is here: http://www.idph.state.il.us/vitalrecords/deathinfo.htm
Or you could try to get an obituary to see if he matches up with your Robert. There's a person in Will Co. Illinois on www.raogk.org who does look-ups in Joliet.
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im looking for a value for money us site to look up bmd for a number of states for robert clark and my other ancestors in the us such as bryden mclean shutts matoon and monnik .
bill
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im looking for a value for money us site to look up bmd for a number of states
Unlikely to happen... There is no central repository for BMDs in US. Each state is responsible for its own vital statistics recordkeeping and they vary all over the place as to when they started doing so.
Costs seem to range $10-$20 and you need to know where death occurred (usually) and exact dates (nearly always); especially for such a common name as Robert Clark.
Plus, a huge number of indexes (if they exist as such) are not yet computerized. For example, I live within 200 miles of where my grandparents married, and know within a few months and miles when and where, but haven't found a marriage record.
Nick
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I would say Ancestry has the most BMD databases available for the US for pay sites, but, as Nick said, it's far from comprehensive. I find that www.deathindexes.com is pretty up to date on what's out there online for each state, whether available free or by subscription.