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Title: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 28 April 09 07:24 BST (UK)
Searching for anyone doing research on my G/G grandparents John Speirs born 1 Jan 1810 Thorn Refrewshire & Jane Fillans born abt 1807 where not known. They married 30 Apr 1838 at Abbey(Paisley) Renfrewshire. Only have my G/grandfather William born abt 1844 as family.
Regards
Anderson 
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: seekthem on Tuesday 28 April 09 16:44 BST (UK)
On Freecen 1841 there is a John Speirs with wife Jean and children Hugh 6 and William 2 High St, Johnstone.  Abbey is the parish district for Johnstone and Elderslie so they probably married in Johnstone they wouldn't have married in Paisley Abbey. 
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Ann Baker on Thursday 30 April 09 01:24 BST (UK)
Hi Anderson

The Abbey bit is correct not the actual Paisley Abbey but Johnstone & Elderslie was in Abbey parish at that time. It became Johnstone parish later as the town grew.

I was born in Thornhill hospital too lol - bit later than then tho!

Ann :)
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Anderson on Thursday 30 April 09 08:26 BST (UK)
Hi Seekthem & Ann
Thanks for the reply. I have a fair bit of information on the family but was hoping someone was of the same line and we could cross check our info.
Many thanks
Anderson
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Tiffaney on Tuesday 23 June 09 04:52 BST (UK)
Hello Anderson

I have connection to Fillans from Paisley Renfrewshire.

an 1851 census of Scotland
Parish -p\Paisley Abbey
20 Gause Street - Paisley

John Fillans   head   mar  36  Sculptor  Mearns    Renfrew
Ann Fillans    wife     mar  34                Glasgow  Lanark
Jean Fillans   dau     u/m    6 Scholar    Paisley    Renfrew
Roger Fillans son     u/m     5               Paisley     Renfrew
Thomas Fillans son  u/m     2               Paisley     Renfrew

Any use?  have more on my forum if interested.Tiff
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 23 June 09 05:38 BST (UK)
Hi Tiff
Might be the same but a later generation to what I have. What we have is:
John FILLANS b:? mar. Jane WHITE (when?) had a daughter Jane FILLANS b: abt 1807 & died 10 Feb 1865 Thorn renfrewshire. This Jane mar.John SPEIRS on the 30 Apr 1838.
So because I have only the one child for the 1st John & Jane (nee WHITE) maybe the one you have found might be a brother for Jane SPEIRS (nee FILLANS).
There were certainly artistic people in the FILLANS famalies so the sculptor sounds feasable
What do you think
Anderson
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Tiffaney on Friday 26 June 09 00:59 BST (UK)
Apparently our Fillan family tree starts in 1700 in Lithgow County in the small townships of Livingstone, Bathgate and Whitburnn. These townships are abt 3 to 4km apart, and are aprox, 18km west of Edinburgh.

Agnes who married James Gilmour was the 7th child in a family of 9 - the children of John Thomson Fillans and his wife Jean (nee White)Two of Agnes' older brothers James and John attained prominence as sculptors.James Fillans died 27 Sep 1852 of rheumatic fever in Glasgow.John Fillans the younger brother of James b: 1814..a sculptor a bust in plaster 23" high of Robert Tannahill was executed by John and later presented to the Paisley Art Gallery by one of his sisters.

1841 census:
Parish- Paisley Abbey - Parish of Quoad Sacra Johnstone
22 High St. Johnstone.
Jean FILLANS  F  50   Scotland
Agnes FILLANS   F  20  Dressmaker  Scotland
Janet FILLANS  F 15   Scotland
Christina FILLANS  F  13  Scotland

Note:  in 1841 census ages of people over 15 were rounded down to the nearest five years, eg: 54 would be 50

John Thomson Fillans b: 9 June 1775 d: 17 Jul 1851 m:  Jean White (Whyte) 14 Feb 1802.  She was b: 18 Jul 1784 d: 11 Jul 1851.
Children:
Jean b:1807 m: John Spiers
James b: 27 Mar 1808 m:  Grace Gemmell
George Fillans b: 1812 m: Martha Alvin
John Fillans b: 1814 m: Ann Waterson
Robert Fillans b: 1816 m : Isabella Richmon d
Elizabeth Fillans b: 1818
Agnes Fillans b: 1820 m: James Gilmour
Janet Fillans b: 1821
Christina Margaretta Fillans
_____________
Send me a p/m if you wish.
Tiffaney
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: styles05 on Tuesday 25 August 09 21:05 BST (UK)
Is your McLauchlan ancestor connected with the Alan McLauchlan family in N.Zealand?
I have only just found your notes on Rootschat.
Jean
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Tiffaney on Monday 14 September 09 03:17 BST (UK)


Hi Jean,

I have a lot of McLauchlan ancestors, living in New Zealand naurally enough as my maiden name is McLauchlan.
I have just started a forum re my McLauchlans you might be interested in joining at:

http://mymclauchlankin.proboards.com/index.cgi

which also has Fillans, Gilmours, Shearers, Galletlys, & a lot more
I have a list of some of the names (more to add) at
http://ringofmyforums.proboards.com/index.cgi

Interested to hear from you & also Anderson again.
regards,
Tiffaney
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: hoarder35 on Saturday 14 November 09 15:09 GMT (UK)
This is more of a reply to TIFFANEY from the comments of some time ago. I have an old oil sketch of a woman and on the back is a label which reads ' Ann Waterstow, (Though the end 'w' could be an 'n'.) wife of John Fillans Sculptor. 1852'. I am assuming this is the same John Fillans wife she mentions as an 'Ann Waterson' without the extra 'T'. So I was wondering which might be the correct spelling?
Title: Re: FILLANS & SPEIRS family Thornhill
Post by: Tiffaney on Saturday 19 May 12 23:06 BST (UK)
Sorry I can't help you with more than I have above re Ann being Waterson.
Suggest you take you sketch into your nearest reputable art dealers to get their opinion - could prove most worthwhile.
Would be interested to hear the outcome please.
regards,
Tiff