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Title: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: sephton on Sunday 26 April 09 18:33 BST (UK)
Could anyone help with the birth/baptism or any census info for my gggg grandmother please?
Rosina shows in the 1871 census as married surname then Skeldon, living in Cainham Shropshire, she also shows in 1901 when she had moved to Newport. She was born in Windsor and married George Skeldon in Marleybone. Other than that I am not getting anywhere, I have found a Rose but the birth place is wrong, I would really appreciate any help in moving past this to find the generation before, as I believe her husband was from Perth and I would love to know how they got together!!!!!
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: genjen on Sunday 26 April 09 18:45 BST (UK)
They married in Dec 1870, Marylebone, 1a/893

George Skeldon
Rosina Skinley

That certificate will have her father's name and occupation on it.

I'll have a look for her birth.

Jen
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Tati on Sunday 26 April 09 18:56 BST (UK)
Hi both  :)

Just looking at the censuses where she's identified, we have:

1901 : age 52 born Windsor
1891 : age 41 born Swallowfield 
1881 : age 32 born Swallowfield
1871 : age 23 born Farley Hill 

So I think the Roseena Skingsley age 2 in Swallowfield in 1851 looks pretty good (HO107/1693 61 9) :)
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: sephton on Sunday 26 April 09 18:58 BST (UK)
Thanks is Swallowfied in Windsor?
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 26 April 09 19:02 BST (UK)
Births Jun 1849   
 
SKINGSLEY  Rosina    Wokingham  6 312


Is Swallowfield in Windsor - not too far away (but not the nearest larger town), sort of on the main road from Reading down to Basingstoke.

a couple of M4 junctions in todays terms  :P
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Tati on Sunday 26 April 09 19:09 BST (UK)
(Hi LKL 8))

Do you have access to censuses or would you like the 1851 census details, Sephton?  :)
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: genjen on Sunday 26 April 09 19:11 BST (UK)
She is in Swallowfield in 1851, as Skingsley. HO107/1693/61/9

Jen

MODIFIED: Sorry Tati, I completely missed your earlier post. Think I need to go and lie in a darkened room! ::)
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Tati on Sunday 26 April 09 19:34 BST (UK)
Not a prob, Jen  :D

Rosina Skingsley's brother Cornelius had a son Calvin ... not very usual, and the Skeldons had a son Calvin as well  :D

In 1881, Cornelius' birth place is Farley Hill, just as Rosina's in 1871.

 
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: sephton on Sunday 26 April 09 19:40 BST (UK)
The Rosina I am after is the one born in Windsor, she was 52 in 1901 bornBerkshire, Windsor. Calvin has been a family name it has appeared in all generations since Rosina and George got together, and possibly before I suppose. The people you are suggesting are they likely to be the same people, as you can tell I'm quite new to this  ;D
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 26 April 09 19:42 BST (UK)
Tati showed you all the lady's claimed PoBs - not at all unusual to see one off beam - depends on who filled in the Enumeration Form...

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Just looking at the censuses where she's identified, we have:

1901 : age 52 born Windsor
1891 : age 41 born Swallowfield 
1881 : age 32 born Swallowfield
1871 : age 23 born Farley Hill 

So I think the Roseena Skingsley age 2 in Swallowfield in 1851 looks pretty good (HO107/1693 61 9)
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Tati on Sunday 26 April 09 19:43 BST (UK)
Yes, I'm pretty sure she's the same person.

Have you managed to identify your Skeldon family in 1891 (RG12/4377 10 12) and 1881 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/065w/), when they're in Wales and when Rosina says she was born in Swallowfield?
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: sephton on Sunday 26 April 09 19:48 BST (UK)
I thought it may be useful to share with you the hours I spent yesterday up a wrong turning I think. On the 1901 cnesus I found Eliza Skinley living with Arthur and Fred bot her sons, Rose her daughter, mother in law Elizabeth and visitors Martha Bezznt abd George and Edmund Etheridge, both adult womwn were widowed and the were living at 27 Aspinden Road, Rotherhithe. I got all excited thinking Rose could have been Rosina but realised that the birth date was too late, 1883 and she was born in Newcastle on Tyne, although her brother was born in Windsor, so it may be that they are somehow connected they did tend to stay with the same names in families didn't they, perhaps an aunt, uncle, cousin or some such
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: sephton on Sunday 26 April 09 19:52 BST (UK)
Thank you for this link yes this is her, I knew George was a policeman but was sacked for being inebriated, previous to this my mother says he was a gamekeeper in Foy in Herefordshire.
So I can possibly look for her earlier now so I can identify her parentage?
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Tati on Sunday 26 April 09 20:06 BST (UK)

1851
HO107/1693 61 9
Swallowfield, Berkshire

Arthur Skingsley, head, 54, Pensioner, b. Essex Hieson?
Margaret, wife, 32, b. Kent Woolage?
Harriett, dau, 11, school, b. Swallowfield
Cornelius, son, 9, school, b. do.
Samuel, son, 4, school, b. do.
Roseena, dau, 2, b. do.


Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Tati on Sunday 26 April 09 20:18 BST (UK)
I really can't find her under her full name in 1861 - wondering if this is her ...

1861
RG9/752 43 32
Wargrave, Berkshire
District School (an orphanage, maybe? :-\)

R S (female), 12, scholar, b. Swallowfield
C S (male), 8, scholar, b. do. (there's a Calvin Skingsley registered in Sep 1851, shown on later censuses as born Swallowfield)
W S (male), 7, scholar, b. do.

 
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: sephton on Sunday 26 April 09 20:25 BST (UK)
Harriett, Arthur and Samuel are all names of children of George and Rosina so it feels right as though she named her children after her brothers and sisters, no more Cornelius's though!
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Orpheus on Sunday 26 April 09 22:49 BST (UK)
The District School at Wargrave was a boarding school belonging to both Reading and Wokingham Unions.  Rosina and her siblings were probably there because their father had died in 1853 (Arthur SKINGSLEY, December Qtr 1853, Wokingham Registration District, 2c 725) and their mother might also have died or been resident in the Wokingham Union Workhouse.

Orpheus
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: sephton on Sunday 26 April 09 22:53 BST (UK)
Thanks  I do hope this is the right one, I have Rosina, or Rosmeena born at so many different places, all in Berkshire but she really changed her mind everytime a census was filled in!!!
If I get a copy of her marriage certificate, which I know is the right person will it give me her fathers name?
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Orpheus on Sunday 26 April 09 23:15 BST (UK)
Not necessarily.  If he was dead the space for father's name might be left blank on the certificate, or it might say 'Father deceased' - giving no name at all, or it might actually give his name and state that he was deceased.

Orpheus
Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: jc26red on Monday 27 April 09 08:38 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: windsor - Rosina Skinley
Post by: Tati on Monday 27 April 09 08:40 BST (UK)
she really changed her mind everytime a census was filled in!!!
Only once, really. Genuki tells us that Farley Hill is in the parish of Swallowfield, therefore her birth place is pretty consistent except for 1901  :D