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I have found a connection to Kaiapoi with a William Simpson settling in Cam Road after coming from Scotland on the ship "Crusader" 1883. He came over with his wife Rachel (nee Bannister), 2 of his 3 children (Gilbert & Isabella) and mother Mary (nee Shanks).
William (b. abt 1856 Scotland) was a warper at the Woollen Mills and heavily involved in the K.W.M.C.
Gilbert (b. abt 1879, Scotland) was an oarsman during 1897-1901 with Arthur Driscoll. He also was connected with the Boer War.
Isabella (b. abt 1880, Scotland) was a foundation member of the Hinemoa Hockey Team.
Another son, James Bannister Simpson (b. 30Nov1921 Kaiapoi) was too connected with the Boer War. He first married a Lillian May Vogel about 1904. After her death in 1910 he then married a Jessie May Bedford in Christchurch 22Sep1911 but settled in Kaiapoi. I descend from this union.
I believe William & Rachel were buried at a Kaiapoi Cemetery tho have not found any online lookups to confirm that. I would love to know what happened to Gilbert and Isabella. I know they were still alive at the death of Rachel 03Nov1921 as her death certificate states Gilbert to be 42yrs and Isabella 41yrs, James 37yrs. I have not managed to track down where James and Jessie were buried. I have no date of death for William. James died abt 1954
If anyone can help with information on any of the above Simpson's I would be most grateful.
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Hi Jazzie,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Rachel and William are both at Kaiapoi Public Cemetery. Gilbert is also buried there he died 1947 aged 74.
Williams death date is 1944 aged 89.
You could perhaps write to the cemetery for the death dates.
Hope this little bit helps.
Cheers
KHP :)
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Hi again,
Archives NZ hold a probate for Gilbert:
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=4596933
If you can't get to Archives yourself, you could post another topic, asking if someone will do a look up for you.
Cheers
KHP :)
Added There is one for William as well.
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=4594238
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Hi,
This is James' Probate, you should be able to get a death date from that. There is another James Bannister Simpson died 1984 up in Purewa Cemetery, any relation?
There is also a Military Personnel File at Archives for James.
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=4604949.
Cheers
KHP :)
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Looks like the James Bannister Simpson buried in Purewa could be Gilberts son.
James born 4 May 1906 admitted 20 Feb 1912 to Lyttelton School. Living at that time Ticehurst Rd.
There is a birth entry on the BMD Historical records:
http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/search/
Gilbert married a Alice Maud Baker 1904 Folio #1214, but of course all of this will need to be verified.
Cheers
KHP :)
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Hi Jazzie,
A warm welcome from me as well.
If I get a chance tomorrow I can check the microfiche for Kaiapoi Public Cemetery for the date of death and then check for death n otices if you like.
Just let me know
Newbe :)
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kiwihalfpint,
Blimey fast work with what you came up with - I'm impressed. The info surrounding what could be Gilbert's son is very interesting and I will see if I can verify that more. Same with the marriage. You don't happen to know if that Alice Baker was buried in Kaiapoi also?
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newbe,
Thanks for the welcome and I would be grateful if you have access to the microfiche for Kaiapoi Public Cemetery. kiwihalfpint has enlightened me with a few dates so if you are able to scan for those and any of the names mentioned would be great.
- Jazzie
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Hi,
No, but not every death is recorded, no doubt Newbe will check that for you, when doing the other look up.
Getting the probates might give you other information as well.
Cheers
KHP :)
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Hi there,
Will do my best for you.
Good work so far KHP.
Do you know if Isabella was married?
Newbe
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Did Isabella have a middle name?
Would make it easier to find a marriage for her.
Newbe
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Thanks so much.
I suspect Isabella got married but I do not have any idea of who it would be. That's another mystery I'm slowly unravelling.
To maybe confuse things - in James Bannister Simpson first marriage to Lillian Vogel - they had 2 sons: Gilbert Bannister Simpson (b. abt1908, d. abt 1966) and William Simpson (no additional details for). I just hate that they were so unoriginal with names as it gets so confusing.
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Ahhh yes I think from the 1881 Scotland census there was an F but no full details on what her middle name might have been
If I look back on her family, Rachel Simpson nee Bannister parents were James Bannister and Isabella Fletcher ... so perhaps with the pattern they were following could Isabella's middle name be Fletcher?? Worth a try? Gilbert's name takes after William's father....
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Hopefully Willliams probate might shed some light .... if she did get married her married name will be noted.
Might get some luck with the death notice, but pre 1950 siblings or children weren't usually mentioned.
Cheers
KHP
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If she was living in the cChristchurch area when she got married I can check the church card index and see if I can find her that way.
Can check for any others with the surname SINPSON as well if you like and then go form there.
Newbe
added There is a Isabella Florence Simpson married to a Alfred Edward Holmes 1900/815 Reg Number
Also a Isabella Fletcher Sinpson married to a Ernest Robert Long 1904/6426 Reg Number
I am thinking that Florence would make more sense
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Good work Newbe :)
There is a Isabella Florence Holmes Probate for 1953 Christchurch
Cheers
KHP
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Good one KHP.
Isabella may have been cremated then as no death in Christchurch cemetery data base so far
Newbe
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Excellent.
Tho I wouldn't discard the Isabella Fletcher Simpson as Isabella's grandmother was Isabella, maiden name Fletcher!!
hmmmmmmm
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Looks like more digging to be done.
Will see what I can find
Newbe
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That one in Reply 15 was just a possibility ;D Just put that on the back burner for now :)
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I just looked up the BMD for an Isabella Long and there was one that died in 1963 aged 76 but that would make est dob 1887 so I think you are more likely to be right with Isabella Florence as I looked up the BMD for Isabella Holmes and there was one died 1953 aged 74y making est dob 1879 and that is very close to my est of 1880
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Isabella (b. abt 1880, Scotland) was a foundation member of the Hinemoa Hockey Team.
In "Women of the Waimakariri" there is a good photo of the first HHC team before their debut match, Isabella may well be in it. Unfortunately the picture caption doesn't have the names of the team listed. The picture has however been overwritten with numbers on each of the ladies so the holder of the original might have a list of those pictured.
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Oh dear, when I look up the Crusader ship that sailed from Gravesend 13/12/1882 and arrived Lyttelton 22/03/1883 it states Isabella was 2 months... so would that make her dob est October 1882? Tho the info looked up was from
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/Crusader1883.htm
so not verified any other way
added The 1881 Scotland Census taken the night of 3/4 April 1881 showed William 25, Rachel 23, Gilbert 1 and Isabella F Simpson 6 Mo. That would make her b. abt Sep/Oct 1880
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Don't you just love it when that happens ;D
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Thanks for that tip Corkscrew. I have located the online version of that hockey photo. If nothing else comes up I will have to locate the owner of that photo or contact the hockey club to see if they have any further records of Isabella.
oh yeah KHP but then thinking about it perhaps the ships records should have stated 2 years and not 2 months.??? I think I'll stick with the 1880 estimate
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Thanks for that tip Corkscrew. I have located the online version of that hockey photo. If nothing else comes up I will have to locate the owner of that photo or contact the hockey club to see if they have any further records of Isabella.
oh yeah KHP but then thinking about it perhaps the ships records should have stated 2 years and not 2 months.??? I think I'll stick with the 1880 estimate
I should of said the owner is the Hinemoa HC
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I am also thinking 2 years and not 2 months for Isabella.
I tried your link but it did not work Jazzie.
They might have the passenger list at the library so can check there if you like for the arrival into Lyttelton
Newbe
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Going to be a busy beaver newbe ;D Going to take your lunch :P :D
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Will take some lunch with me khp ;D
Might have to buy a coffee to keep me awake ;D
Newbe ;D ::)
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I am also thinking 2 years and not 2 months for Isabella.
I tried your link but it did not work Jazzie.
They might have the passenger list at the library so can check there if you like for the arrival into Lyttelton
Newbe
I updated the link. I had "outstuff" instead of "ourstuff" - should work now
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Jazzie, just had a thought ...... the death for James Bannister Simpson at Purewa, you could always post a NZ Herald lookup for the notice or you could email the National Library.
Cheers
KHP :)
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Thanks Jazzie,
I had a look and think that 2 (Months) may have been added. Not sure.
Will see what I can find
Newbe
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You could also put a request and see if someone can take a photo of the headstone for James Bannister Simpson at Purewa Cemetery.
Newbe
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Hi Jazzie,
This has been an interesting morning so far.
This is what I have found:
Kaiapoi Public Cemetery Source Fiche record
Fiche Record Row A plot 12.
Rachel SIMPSON, d. 3 Nov 1921 a. 64 and her husb, William a. 89. Also James BANNISTER d. 8 July 1909 a. 89 and Mary SIMPSON d. 5 April 1916 a. 84
The one for Gilbert simpson is not your one as he had a wife Mary and was born abt 1872.
Marriages from Kaiapoi Presbyterian Church
Name: SIMPSON Gilbert and BAKER Alice Maud
Date: 31 March 1904
Age: 24, 21
Place: House of Edward BAKER, Sneyd? Street, Kaiapoi
Status: Bach, Spin
Occ: Labourer, Dressmaker
Birth Pl: Jedburgh, Scotland, Kaiapoi
Res: (Present) Kaiapoi, Kaiapoi
(Usual) Kaiapoi, Kaiapoi
Parents: William, Warper, Rachel nee BANNISTER
Edward, Engineer, Annie nee Rhodes
Witnesses: Margraet Lucy MARSHALL, Belfast, Domestic Duties
Harold MARSHALL, Farm Hand, Kaiapoi
Name: LONG Ernest Robert and SMPSON Isabella fletcher
Date: 2 Nov 1904
Place: House of William SIMPSON, Carrside?, Kaiapoi
Age: 27, 24
Status: Bach, Spin
Birth Place: Auckland, Scotland
Res: (Present) Wellington, Kaiapoi
(Usual) Wellington, Kaiapoi
Parents: Daniel, Farmer, Catherine nee FIZPATRICK
William, Warper, Rachel nee BANNISTER
Witnesses: William John HENRY
Mary Laimont BRIAN
Minister: William Mc Donald
Might have to ring or email Kaiapoi Council and find out the date ofdeath for William Simpson.
Newbe
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Hi Jazzie,
William and Rachel's son James Bannister SIMPSON died 12/11/1954
So I will go hunt a death notice out for him.
He was cremated so am going down to the crematioium gardens to take a photo of the plaque and then I will be able to see if any other names are on it.
Newbe
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Good work newbe, Jazzie will be pleased :)
Cheers
KHP :)
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Something else for you Jazzie ....
Found Gilbert in the Auckland Museum Database:
http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/cenotaph/RecordDetail.aspx?OriginalID=61743&SearchID=1661822&Ordinal=1
Cheers
KHP :)
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The one for Gilbert simpson is not your one as he had a wife Mary and was born abt 1872.
Was worth a try - especially how the names nearly tie up so well. I wonder if he is somehow still related... maybe down the track we will see
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You are so right - I am most pleased with the info on marriages! Esp now have some names to go by.
To put a bit of perspective on things - James Bannister Simpson b. abt 1884 is my Great Grandfather.
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Hi Jazzie,
William and Rachel's son James Bannister SIMPSON died 12/11/1954
So I will go hunt a death notice out for him.
He was cremated so am going down to the crematioium gardens to take a photo of the plaque and then I will be able to see if any other names are on it.
Newbe
Yay for finding out this date ... I am still wondering where he was buried .. and whether his 2nd wife Jessie May Bedford is with him....
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Jazzie,
There is a Jessie May Simpson aged 90 died 1980 at Harewood Cemetery.
Cheers
KHP :)
Added: She is in Archives NZ :) Hope that helps in your search as well.
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=9793355
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The one for Gilbert simpson is not your one as he had a wife Mary and was born abt 1872.
Im now thinking that the probate must also be the wrong one for Gilbert Simpson as that is dated 1947 too.
Gilbert must have died 1948 as per BDM Index aged 70y
Name: LONG Ernest Robert and SMPSON Isabella fletcher
Date: 2 Nov 1904
Place: House of William SIMPSON, Carrside?, Kaiapoi
Age: 27, 24
Status: Bach, Spin
Birth Place: Auckland, Scotland
Res: (Present) Wellington, Kaiapoi
(Usual) Wellington, Kaiapoi
Parents: Daniel, Farmer, Catherine nee FIZPATRICK
William, Warper, Rachel nee BANNISTER
Witnesses: William John HENRY
Mary Laimont BRIAN
Minister: William Mc Donald
This is very interesting as this is the right Isabella but when I look up BDM for that Isabella Fletcher Long there was one that died in 1963 aged 76 but those dates don't tie up ... hmmmmm
Also thanks KHP for the info on Jessie May Simpson's dod and burial whereabouts.
Newbe - just wondering if you have time and access to the Kaiapoi Public Cemetery Source Fiche record, would you mind looking up a Joyce Isabell Simpson died about 1917 aged 10mths and a James Bannister Simpson died about 1915 aged 3 days. They are supposedly the children of James Bannister and Jessie May Simpson (my nana's parents). Im just wondering if they buried them in Kaiapoi.
~Jazzie
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I am back from thecrematorium after getting the photo of the plaque for James Bannister SIMPSON and death notice.
Can you PM me an email address or would you just like me to attach it so every one can see the photo.
I will write up the death notice after dinner.
Newbe
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This is very interesting as this is the right Isabella but when I look up BDM for that Isabella Fletcher Long there was one that died in 1963 aged 76 but those dates don't tie up ... hmmmmm
I had a look at that one ..... that one has no middle name ...... so your Isabella should have both names included. The 1963 one was buried in Birkenhead/Glenfield Cemetery.
The only thing I have found on a Ernest Robert Long is this:
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=10525509
Cheers
KHP
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Hi Jazzie and KHP
Here is the death notices.
SIMPSON, James Bannister-On November 12 at Christchurch, dearley loved husband of May, and loved father of Bill, Gilbert, Hazel, Jean, Dorothy, and Alistar, and the late Ian, (Late of 49 Cam Road, Kaiapoi)
SIMPSON, James Bannister (N.Z.M.R 7707) - On November 12 at Christchurch, beloved son of the late William and rachel Simpson, brother of the late Gilbert and Isabella (Mrs Gould) 150 manukau Road, Auckland. Late of Kaiapoi
Newbe
Edit: Have removed a name as this person is still living
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Isabell is at Kaiapoi cemetery so another visit to the library to look.
Are there any other names you want me to look for.
The ones with the Simpson name are all I have.
This was the only Gilbert there.
Gilbert SIMPSON 1872 - 1947 and his wife Mary 1873 - 1952
Newbe
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Isabella Fletcher Gould died 1957.
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=14756182
Jazzie, there is also a divorce file
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=9306447
Cheers
KHP
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Isabella was aged 78 years. I hope there is a date of death on the fiche.
Then I will be able to find another death notice.
Think I will ring the council to get William's date of death
Newbe
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Good work again newbe ....... didn't see that one coming for Isabella.
KHP
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Me either KHP.
More work to do ;D
Keeps me out of trouble ;D
Newbe
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Jazzie will just have to get the divorce file now ;D I am sure she will be curious ;D
Cheers
KHP :)
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I am just blown away by the masses of info. I was starting to wonder about Isabella Fletcher getting remarried at some point ...
newbe - as for other names that may be at the Kaiapoi Cemetery....
The children of James Bannister Simpson born abt 1884
<to Lillian May Vogel>
1. Gilbert Bannister Simpson b. abt 1908 d. abt 1966
2. William (Bill) Simpson (unknown dob or dod)
<to Jessie May Bedford>
3. Hazel Simpson b. 30 Nov 1911 d. abt 2004 m. William Orme (I think buried Chch somewhere tho)
4. Jean Maud Simpson b. 12 Jan 1913 d. abt 2003 - married Percy Hudson ( I think also in chch somewhere)
5. James Bannister Simpson (not confirmed as his child?!) b. abt 1915 d. abt 1915 aged 3D
6. Joyce Isabell (Joy) Simpson b. abt 1917 d. abt 1917 aged 10mths
7. Dorothy May Simpson b. 09 Nov 1918 d. abt 1987 married a Roberts (think buried in chch)
8. Ian Keith Simpson b. abt 1920 d. 30 Dec 1941 in WW2
9. Alastair Gordon Simpson b. 10 Dec 1922 d. abt 1988
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Thanks for that info. Will print it off and follow up.
Please take Ngaire's name off as it is against rootschat policy to name living people.
I will remove her name form the death notice
Newbe
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Gilbert Bannister SIMPSON died Invercargill 1966 so maybe you can ring Eastern Cemetery and find out more.
I shall have a look at the microfiche record and see what it says.
I know the funeral directors down there are happy to send a copy of what they have on file for the deceased.
I have asked plenty of times and they have been very helpful.
Newbe
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newbe,
I have removed the name as you mentioned - thanks, wont make that same mistake.
I can't believe that Gilbert Bannister Simpson died in Invercargill. That's very close to home. I can visit that cemetery tho if you know the funeral directors, would be helpful to get their notes please.
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All I can suggest is give MacDonald and Western a ring and if they do not have a record try J Fraser and Sons limited. Both numbers are in the phone book.
Also the cemetery will be able to tell you who the funeral director is.
The library down Invercargill shpould have copies of the Southland Times on microfilm.
Just ask a Libraian to show you how to use them. They are very helpful.
I am in Christchurch and we do not have the Southland times so am unable to help with that.
Newbe
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Jazzie, apologies if you already have this for Ian Keith Simpson
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2920145
Cheers
KHP
Added: There is also a Probate for him
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This one gives his place of death.
http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/cenotaph/RecordDetail.aspx?OriginalID=26986&SearchID=1663277&Ordinal=1
Cheers
KHP
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Well done KHP.
I have found some death records on the new bdm site and will send to Jazzie off list.
Newbe
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I have not found William yet
Will keep looking
Have found most of the others
Newbe
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Give yourself a pat on the back Newbe. Be interesting to see what you find.
Cheers
KHP
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Well we are 5 pages down and have done a lot of work.
We should all give ourselves a pat on the back.
Jazzie this has been a wonderful journey to have shared with you 8)
Newbe
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Well said newbe ...... :)
Cheers
KHP
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I agree with you both. Has been totally amazing, interesting and mind boggling all at the same time. Couldn't have found out any of this without you both.
THANKS
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Your piggy bank will be slowing deflating with all the certs you probably will get. Genealogy is addictive but it can be expensive, and it gets to the stage where you have to decide which certs are really important compared to the others.
Cheers
KHP
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Hi Jazzie,
I have some date of deaths for you.
I also had photos of the plaques but am going to go back tomorrow and redo them as I did not like them and they are hard to read.
They were in a book of memories and not in the Garden with the tree where some of your people are.
Any way,
William SIMPSON was buried at Kaiapoi Public Cemetery on 8 May 1944
I rang them for the dat of death but all they had was the burial date.
These one are under the Natural Tree Court of Memories 2.N
Alister Gordon SIMPSON died 15/10/1988
Jessie May SIMPSON died 26/08/1980
Dorothy May ROBERTS died 17/06/1987
Plaque for Alister reads: Alister SIMPSON
15-10-1988 IN LOVING MOMORY
Jessie's Reads,
JESSIE MAY SIMPSON
DIED 26-08-1908 IN HER 91ST YEAR
A patient sufferer at rest
Dorothy's reads
DOROTHY MAY ROBERTS
17-06-1987 IN HER 69TH YEAR
IN LOVING MEMORY
Gilbert died 01/01/1948
He was cremated at Canterbury crematorium.
I will also get his one tomorrow.
I will also get the death notices tomorrow as well.
Have no idea at this sate where Jean Maud Hudson nee Simpson is buried.
Cheers
Newbe
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What a busy morning you have had newbe ........ well done :)
Hope the weather stays fine for your visit back to the cemetery :)
Cheers
KHP :)
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Me too ;D
Will catch the weather later tonight when back from work
newbe
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That is just amazing info.
I just stumbled across a record of William Simpson (Bill) in the BDM Index online. After reading the death notices I see that Bill must have been born before Gilbert and he was.
1904/16826 - William Henry James Simpson. Mother: Lilian May, Father: James Bannister
Looking up the deaths (assuming it was registered under his full name I guess) there was one of interest where dates matched to dob - 1977/42119 aged 72y
Then under marriages there were 2 registered under his full name. I eliminated one where he would have been 16y in 1920 leaving just one of interest: 1926/2642 to Evelyn May REID.
This may help us find out more about him too. YAY - I finally feel like I am contributing!!
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William Henry James SIMPSON was cremated at Karor Cemetery in Wellington 1977 aged 73.
Well done on finding the birth record for him ;D
Newbe
PS: must go to work now ::)
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Hi Jazzie,
Here is the link for his record
http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/details.php?id=42953&Service=Cremation
Newbe
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Good work Jazzie,
There is an Evelyn May Simpson Probate 1975 Wellington Archives.
Cheers
KHP
Added: aged 76 yrs and at Taita Lawn Cemetery
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Hi Jazzie,
I found Hazel Orme nee Simpson's death on the link below
http://202.68.87.21/cgi-bin/cemetery/ceep?ep&K2&16357
There is a photo of the headstone but it is not that clear.
Hazel is buried with another person. Their ahes should I say are buried together.
It also has the name of the funeral director if you want to follow up more on it.
Newbe
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I found a Joyce Isabel Simpson died 1917 at Taita Cemetery, Lower Hutt, Wellington but am not sure if it your one or not.
Note the spelling of Isabel with just the one L
Newbe
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I have slowly worked out through all the months for the date of death for Joyce Isabella SIMPSON and she died 12/9/1917 aged 10 months so that means she was born in November/December 1916
Newbe
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Quite a few Simpsons buried there ....
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I have done the same for Jean Maud Hudson nee Simpson and she died 24/12/2002
Newbe
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Yes KHP.......... There certainly are quite a few.
Newbe
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This is the only one I can find for a Jean Maud(e) Hudson
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname HUDSON
Given Names Jean Maude
Location Avenue Cemetery Levin L06.19
Will have to have a look at it to find out more.
Pity no year of death
Newbe
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Her is the link for jean Maud Simpson death at Avenue Cemetery, Levin
http://www.library.org.nz/resources/cemetery/item_result.php?id=2888
Her husband Percy Albert Hudson died 3/3/1996
There is a photo of the headstone as well
This is a bonus as it saves someone getting it for you.
Newbe ;D
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This is all fantastic - with your help we've nearly covered them all now I think. Just a few check ups and emails to receive ....
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Glad it is all coming together for you Jazzie. :)
Cheers
KHP
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Glad we could help you.
This has been a wonderful journey to have shared with you.
Hope those probates have some answers as well.
Will wait and see if you get a response to them
Newbe
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I have info re: Gilbert Bannister Simpson
b. abt 1908 Petone
d. 15 Jan 1966 at Kew Hospital, Invercargill
res. Greenhills, Awarua, Invercargill
occ. Freezing Worker
Returned Solider WW2: A1.30902 ALF (I think these numbers are copied right)
m. Helen Ida Guthrie abt 1954 at Wollongong, NSW aged 46! <Helen b. abt 1906>
no children
Looked up BDM for NSW and found this:
13626/1956 SIMPSON GILBERT BANNISTER SCARF HELEN IDA WOLLONGONG
I see thats a different maiden name to that on the funeral directors notes.
If Gilbert born in Petone then I wonder if William was too or even if their mother Lillian May (I have seen her name also as Lillian Mary in some records) was buried up near Wellington too?
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I have the death notices you needed and photos of the plaques as well.
I have a photo of Gilbert's plaque as well. it is a bit hard to read so will write it up here after I have had a coffee.
I could not find it at first so went back to office to find out what was written on it.
It is written on old white stone with the lettering set in.
I enquired about having the lettering redone and it could be pained black or gold to make it stand out or they said maybe a new plaque would be better.
Will leave that up to you do decide.
Newbe
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Hi Jazzie,
Have emailed photos and death notices to you.
Have really enjoyed helping you with this.
Well done on finding more on Gilbert Bannister SIMPSON.
Newbe
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Looks like you two have been busy beavers while I have been entertaining the grandson.
Cheers
KHP :)
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This is the busiest I have been for quite a while KHP ;D
Need a rest now ::)
Newbe
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Righto a rest it is until some other poor soul :-\ needs the excellent help you can provide.
I have been truly amazed as what information is out there ... I have learnt alot about the researching tools avail too. I couldn't have gone as far with this without KHP and newbe! ;D
Maybe one day I can repay with research in my own area...
Truly grateful,
Jazzie
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Hi Jazzie,
There are three death dates I have found for a Alice Maud(e) SIMPSON
Alice Maud SIMPSON died 23/11/1957 and is buried at Waikumete Cemetery in Auckland Funeral director was J. Weir and Co. Alice is buried in Anglican Division F Row 2 Plot 51. Yes there is a headstone for her.
Alice Maude SIMPSON died 1/6/1955 and was cremated at Waikumete Cemetery. Does not say what happened to her ashes. Funeral director was Watney Sibuns and Sons Limited.
Alice Maude SIMPSON died 23/09/1959 ashes were scattered.
Funeral director was L A Williams. Not sure if the merged with another company or just closed down.
Maybe one of her daughters lived in Auckland. Just thinking outside the square as they say.
Cheers
Newbe
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Hi Jazzie,
Something you may wish to look for is a newspaper cutting from the Christchurch Star from 1928.
The article was titled (from memory) Four Generations of Women and it was a photograph in Kaiapoi of of Mrs Alfred (Emma) Rhodes, Mrs Annie Baker, Mrs Simpson and a Miss Simpson. Many years ago I had a copy of the photograph / clipping that I believe was indexed in the photographic section of the Turnbull Library in Wellington. The next time I am back in New Zealand I'll try to track it down... if you happen to pass through Wellington it's worth looking for. :)
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Thanks Laurier,
I have made a note of this. I am also interested to know why you came across this photo. Who or what are you researching?
For the interest of any other person who may read this post someday. The Simpsons in this photo will relate to Gilbert Bannister Simpson (abt1879-1948). His wife Alice Maude Baker is the Mrs Simpson referred to in the photo. Her mother was Annie Baker (nee Rhodes) and her mother must be the Mrs Alfred (Emma) Rhodes. The Miss Simpson could be either Rua or Betty Simpson.
Cheers,
Jazzie :D
Hi Jazzie,
Something you may wish to look for is a newspaper cutting from the Christchurch Star from 1928.
The article was titled (from memory) Four Generations of Women and it was a photograph in Kaiapoi of of Mrs Alfred (Emma) Rhodes, Mrs Annie Baker, Mrs Simpson and a Miss Simpson. Many years ago I had a copy of the photograph / clipping that I believe was indexed in the photographic section of the Turnbull Library in Wellington. The next time I am back in New Zealand I'll try to track it down... if you happen to pass through Wellington it's worth looking for. :)
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Hi Jazzie,
Emma Rhodes was my Great-great-grandmother through her son Randolph. In 1990 I became quite heavily bitten with family history & spent hours with microfilm and making trips to everywhere I could think of that could provide details about the extended family. It was at that point that I found the clipping from the Star that had been referenced with the names of the ladies... Emma Rhodes (of course) being the name I was searching for. In 1928 Emma Rhodes (nee Chaney) was one of remaining Canterbury Pilgrims so for the newspaper to have a photograph of four generations of women would have had a human interest element.
I've been living overseas for the best part of a decade & my original research is in a box somewhere in New Zealand but I remember the clipping quite well as I spent a lot of time wondering about what had become of the family. From memory, it was Miss Betty Simpson in the photograph as well.
In 1990 it was much more difficult to track down family information as everything was on film, fiche or index cards. There are only two places that I could have got the Newpaper cutting from - one is the portrait / photographic collection of the Alexander Turnbull Library. The other (remote) possibility was the archives of the Canterbury Museum.
Regards
Laurie
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Hi Laurie,
Nice to meet you and a connection made as well!
To describe Emma to me, she would be my great-greatuncle's wife's grandmother. Sounds so distant. I started my research for my Nana who is the current matriarch of the Simpson family. She has been most pleased with what I have found so far.
I agree that it is much easier today to find information. It was through RC that I found out about all the available sites and techniques. It is a bug that is catchy and hard to shake off! I hope that you were able to find out what you were looking for, sounds like you would have an interesting read.
Jazz