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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Dorset => Topic started by: ROBBF on Friday 24 April 09 14:38 BST (UK)
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Hello I wonder if any one could shed some light on the CHRISTOPHER family
of Manswood near Wimborne Dorset
I am looking for details of jessie and Ellen Christopher all I know is at the time of death of their son Montague William Christopher nov 1916 age 32 during ww1 they lived at Critchel manswood .
Any info on this family would be wonderfull
thanks in advance
Robb
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THey are on 1901 (LOTS of them)
RG13 1974 101 20
Mori Crichel
Jesse 51 Woodman
Ellen 50
Mary 24
Frank 20
Montague 17
William 15
Ada 12
Ernest 11
Alice? 6
Norah 5
all bn Crichel
next door
Henry 45 bricklayers labourer bn Manswood
Martha 55 wife bn Hampshire
Harry 12 bn Bournemouth
Louis 7 bn Manswood
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1891 shows even more children -
RG12 1635 114 8
Crichlel Manswood
Jesse 42 woodman
Ellen 40
Mary 14
Frank 11
Arthur 10
Montague 8
William 5
Georgiana 4
Ada 3
Ernest 2
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And 1881 brings even more
Poor Ellen really did have a baby every year, but several must have died in childhood
Rg11 2091 6 3
Gussage St Michael
Jesse 33 Ag lab
Ellen 30
Louisa 6
Eliza 5
Mary 4
Gertrude 2
Frank 10 mths
2 doors away
Mark Christopher and wife also Ellen and children
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Hi,
The Moor Crichel page on http://www.opcdorset.com has some early baptisms/marriages/burials and 1841 and 1861 census. There is also contact detail for the OPC, who has other data available. Gussage St Michael page also has 1841 and 1861 census.
Nanny Jan
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1871
RG10 1983 110 21
Moor Critchel
William 58 Lab in wood
Mary 48
Jesse 23 Lab in wood
Walter 21 Lab in wood
Amelia 19
Rose 14
I'll stop now as Nanny Jan has provided a source for you.
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For the 1891....
next but one afterJessie & Ellen are the following 4 consecutive households:
1891: Manswood - Moore Critchel, Wimborne, Dorset
RG12 / Piece: 1635 / Folio 114 / Page 8
Head: Charles CHRISTOPHER 75, wid, Farm laborer, b Crichel Dorset
Dau: Jane 27, unm, b Crichel Dorset
1891: Manswood - Moore Critchel, Wimborne, Dorset
RG12 / Piece: 1635 / Folio 114 / Page 8
Head: Andrew CHRISTOPHER 44, Shepherd, b Crichel Dorset
Wife: Emma 39, Laborer, b Holt Dorset
Son: Charles 17, unm, Laborer, b Kingston Lacy, Dorset
Son: Frank 13, Laborer, b Hill Bulls?, Dorset
Son: Herbert 6, Scholar, b Crichel Dorset
1891: Manswood - Moore Critchel, Wimborne, Dorset
RG12 / Piece: 1635 / Folio 114 / Page 8 & 9
Head: Mark CHRISTOPHER 38, Gamekeeper, b Crichel Dorset
Wife: Ellen 39, b Minchington Dorset
Son: Albert 17, unm, General Labourer, b Witchamptoh
Son: Walter 13, Bakers Assistant, b Crichel Dorset
1891: Manswood - Moore Critchel, Wimborne, Dorset
RG12 / Piece: 1635 / Folio 114 / Page 8 & 9
Head: Ruben CHRISTOPHER 87, Farm labourer, b Witchampton Dorset
Dau: Rose MITCHELL 26, married, b Crichel Dorset
Son-In-Law: Frank MITCHELL 29, Laborer in Wood, b Witchampton Dorset
Grand-Dau: Winifred MITCHELL 2, b Crichel Dorset
Grand-Son: Ernest MITCHELL 4 months, b Crichel Dorset
Cheers
AMBLY
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Marriage;
Jesse CHRISTOPHER
Ellen Martha CUTLER
June 1874
Winborne
5a 529
Trish
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WOW thanks all that should keep me busy
What a marvelous team we have here
Robb
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Possible death for Ellen:
Ellen M Christopher SepQ 1922 Wimborne 5a 212 (from FreeBMD)
(age 72)
Nanny Jan
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Marriage;
William CHRISTOPHER
Mary NEWMAN
December 1839
Wimborne & c.
8 249
Death;
William CHRISTOPHER, aged 82, Winborne, March 1895,
5a 197
Cant find Jesses death post 1901 ???
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Mary CHRISTOPHER died June 1910,
Winborne , aged 87 ( remember she was younger than William)
5a 131
Trish :)
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Reuben CHRISTOPHER c. 1804 appears to be the brother of William, born c. 1813.
IGI has submitted baptisms of Reuben and William born Witchampton , Dorset, parents William and Mary.
Will see if I can confirm any of this ;)
EDIT
Yes,
England and Wales Christening Records
WILLIAM Christopher,
5 July 1812
Witchampton, Dorset,
Parents William and Mary
REUBEN Chrisopher.
21 April 1805
Same place, same parents ;D
Reuben died March 1894, aged 89, Winborne, 5a 201
There are others probably but teenage son needs computer, so must sign off.
Trish
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I cant thank you all enough I have now manged to find the missing link to my family
Jessie and Ellen son Montague married Matilda chedzey of Puriton Somerset and so the story continues
Please carry on posting if you find anything of interest as it's been a fantastic response
bless you all
Robb
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Hi Robb,
You cant leave us hanging like that ;D What is the missing link :D
Found Reuben and William in same household
1841 Census
Critchill More
Reuben 35 , ag.lab
Mary 35
George 13
Ellen 10
Hannah 8
Sarah 6
Henry 2
William 28
Mary 15 ;)
Levi 2
Eli 9mths HO107/287/2/Critchiill More
Trish
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1851 Census
Witchampton
38
has them with ;
Levi 12 son
Eli 10 son
Caroline 9 daughter
Eliza 7 daughter
Lamar 5 ( TAMAR) daughter
Jesse 3 son
Walter 1 son
Some of the baptisms are on IGI Familysearch
Interestingly there is a ELLEN CUTLER, no age given,born Witchampton, lodging with George SPEARING, age 62, widower, and children on same and previous page.
I will try and find her 1861/1871
trish
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I might be totally of track here ::) but I can only find Ellen Cutler 1871 Census as a servant at the moment.
Thinking laterally there must be a connection of Spearing to Cutler.
There is a possible marriage of William Cutler to Eliza Spearing who is on same page Sept 1846, Wimborne reg. district.
Could they be the parents of Ellen ??? and Eliza the daughter of George ???
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YES :) :)
1861 Census
108 Deans Lease?
Witchampton
William CUTLER, head, 40, woodsman, born Wimborne
Eliza, wife, 38, born Moor critchell
ELLEN, daughter, 11, scholar, born Witchampton
Jane, daughter, 9, scholar, born Witchampton
Emily, 6
Harry,4
Charlotte, 3
Martha, 1
And GUESS who lives next door at 107 :)
George SPEARING, head, wid, 73, ag. lab, born Dorset Donheace?
BIRTH;
Ellen CUTLER
March 1850
Wimborne & c
8 161
Great family to research, wish some of mine were as easy to find ;D
Marriage;
William CUTLER
Eliza SPEARING
September 1846
Wimborne & c
8 281
Hope this helps,
Trish :)
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1841 Census has George, widower, with following children;
Eliza 15
Mary 14
Henry 13
Jerimiah 5
Possible marriage for George from IGI
George SPIERING
Elizabeth HUNT
24 October 1813
Durweston, Dorset
Death ; Freebmd
Elizabeth SPEARING
December 1837
Wimbourne & c
8 101
Trish
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Hello Robb,
Regarding your Christopher research we think a family near us in Dorset could be related, as know they have a Newman connection mentioned.
My wife just sees them occasionally whilst shopping, but we could drop a little note through the door of their home if you think may be a good idea? Also know of a long-established Cutler family living not too far away, I used to do work for them one time.
Just a thought.
Midlanders
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This is all fantastic never in my wildest dreams did I think so much info could be found I can not thank you all enough too to let you know the reasons for it all
I have been trying to put together the life of Montague Christopher who was killed WW1 age 32 leaving a widow and small children Matilda his widow was my great great grandmothers niece . they moved to Brigg in lincolnshire where Monty joined the EAST YORKSHIRE REG His name is on the memorial in the village I have the address of the home that he left all those years ago never to see again , I remember as a youngster meeting Matilda in the 1960's and the stories my Mother and Aunt told me of her and Monty As I plan to go and visit COLINCAMPS
war graves this year to pay my respects to those that fell I have been trying to learn about the only member of our family to lose his life in that conflict .
all this information has given me an idea of his roots and it has been wonderfull .
I would be delighted if you could drop a note in the door Midlanders I will pm MY DETAILS for you to give them
Once again thank you all I feel a bit closer to Monty today
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Its funny you should say what you did as because of Monty dying I have put extra effort into this :)
Until I started my Family research 2 yrs ago I did not realise that I had anyone die WW1 or WW2 from my ancestry. Now I know better and as it is Anzac Day today here in Australia attended my first Dawn Service to commemorate them :'(
So to Monty and mine;
Lest we Forget
Trish
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My Thoughts to you all on ANZAC day may time be a healer and maemories be only happy .
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Are you still out there Robb. Montague William was my wife's grandfather. I have photograph,s of Montague and Matilda, and of Jesse and Ellen's family at Manswood if you are interested.
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Hi Pete yes please lol have sent you a pm with e mail etc
Robb
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Hi l am Montague Christopher's daughter in law, he was Montie's son, is there anyone who can tell me how Montie and Matilda Chedzoy met? I need to know ASAP for a BBC programme about Montie dying onThe Somme, many thanks in anticipation x :)
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Hi to S.... Peter we would love to see any photographs of Mont and Matilda, we only have one! Also any of Jesse and Ellen Christopher, please :)
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I have posted photographs of Jesse,Ellen,Montague, and Matilda Christopher on their profiles on Ancestry Family Tree Bellinger2.
Stinky Pete