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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: lisasteve34 on Tuesday 21 April 09 23:14 BST (UK)
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My great great Great Grandfather Joseph Palmer was a Gentleman and it has been pased down the family that they owned a business in Leicstershire. it was something to do with leather and either millinary or hoisery. I am not sure, however i have found a Palmer Brother Ltd there which was a hoisery factory. Also many of the children worked in hoisery so may indicate towards this. I would love to here more from any one who knows the history of leicestershire and may know of the Palmer family and business.
Many thanks
Lisa
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Have you found Joseph in the censuses? What is given as his profession there?
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Just wondered if you have a Sydney Thomas Palmer born 14th July 1905 in your tree at all.
He married my gt aunt Annie (aka Molly) Harding.
Niglor
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I havn't found him on the census, I don't have an ancestry account. I do have information on the generation below.
Joseph Palmer (occupation on sons marriage certificate states, Gentleman) born 1811 in Leicestershire he married Caroline (possibly Leader) Abt 1806, Leicestershire.
They had Elizabeth (1827) Sarah (1829) John (1835) Caroline (1838) MAria (1840) and Joseph (1846).
My line follows through John Palmer the Census shows:
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John Palmer...head...age 46...currier/courier??...brn Leicester
Elizabeth...wife...age 42..brn London
Henry W...son...age 20...currier/courier??..brn Northampton
Elizabeth..daur...age 19...hoisery...brn Leicester
Beatrice...daur..age 17...hoisery..brn Northampton
Emily..daur...age 15...hoisery..brn Northampton
John J...son..age 13...lace maker...brn Leicester
charles C..son..age 11..scholar...brn Leicester
Kate...daur..age 9..scholar..brn Leicester
Squires...son...age 6..scholar...brn Leicester
Ada...daur..age 3...brn Leicester
Thomas P..son..age 11 months..brn Leicester
They were living at 85 Bustall? St, Leicester, Leicestershire
Rg11, piece 3163, folio 34, page 9
1891
John Palmer...head...age 56..boot manufacturer...brn Leicester
Elizabeth...wife...age 53..brn London
Charles F..son...age 21...clerk...brn Leicester
Kate...daur..age 19...linker hosiery hand..brn Leicester
Stuires/Squires?...son..age 17...laster...brn Leicester
Ada..daur...age 13..warehouse girl...brn Leicester
Thomas C..son..age 10...scholar...brn Leicester
They were living at 35 Wand St, Leicester
RG12, Piece 2533, folio 143, page 20
1901
John Palmer...head...age 65...currier (leather)...brn Leicester
Elizabeth Palmer...wife...age 62..brn London
Beatrice Gent...daur (married)...age 36..hosiery winder..brn Northampton
Squire Palmer..son..age 25..shoe hand/ heel maker ...brn Leicester
Thomas Palmer...son..age 20..shoe hand/ getter off..brn Leicester
Beatrice Gent..grand daur..age 8...brn Great Pearley, Leicestershire
Living at 6 Crafton St, Leicester
Rg13, Piece 2992, folio 31, page 1
Not sure of a Sydney Palmer?
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who was sydney's father?
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I have him (Joseph) :D
1841 - Atkin St, St Mary, Leicester
Joseph Palmer age 30 Wool comber
Caroline Palmer 35
Caroline 3
Elizabeth 14
Sarah 12
John 7
Maria 1
by 1851, Caroline (snr) is shown as head of household, living at Henshaw St, Leic St Mary, with the above children plus Joseph age 5. The younger Caroline is shown as 10 years old and even she is shown as working ("Cotton xxx"- same as her mother - I can't read the second word). The other children (exceot Joseph) are working as hosiers.
HO107/2090 Folio 631 Page 37
Joseph snr has disappeared (although Caroline seems to have said that she was married, rather than widowed) - perhaps someone else will find him?
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BTW a currier is one who worked tanning leather by incorporating grease into it.
John Palmer is shown in 1861 visiting the OHare family in Little Gonerby, just outside Grantham.
By 1871, John was married to Elizabeth and was living in 85, Birstall St, St Margaret, Leic with the older children that you already know about - Henry through to Charles. Again, he's a currier.
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My gt Uncle Sydney Palmer's father was a Thomas. This is the only info I have on him tho.
Maybe your Thomas is his dad as he is aged 20 on your 1901 census?
Niglor
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Greeting’s ..Folks
Transcription of the 1851.Census returns
HO 107. / 2090. / 631. / 37..
Leicester.
St: Mary’s parish.
Henshaw Street.
Caroline Palmer Head Mar Aged.42 F Cotton Brace Maker Lei Leicester
Elizabeth Palmer Dau Um. Aged.24 F Mender Of Fancy Hos. Lei Leicester
Sarah Palmer Dau Um. Aged.22 F Mender Of Fancy Hos. Lei Leicester
John Palmer Son Um. Aged.16 M Currier App. Lei Leicester
Caroline Palmer Dau Aged.12 F Fancy Work Lei Leicester
Maria Palmer Dau Aged.10 F Cotton Brace Maker Lei Leicester
Joseph Palmer Son Aged. 5 M Scholar Lei Leicester
MIKE.
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Aparently Joseph was away a lot on business and as he wasn't on this census do you think he may be somewhere else?
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Hi Folks,
I came across this by accident as I was googling and was excited to discover that my great great grandfather was Joseph Palmer.
I am the grandson of Squires Palmer, son of John Palmer. Squires emigrated to Australia in 1913 and lived in Melbourne the rest of his life.
Aussieken
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Hi There, I am descended through John almer Josephs son! do you have any information on the Palmers? or know about their factory? be good to share note with you. Message me privatly and i will send you my email
regards Lisa
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Lisa,
Glad to know we have a common ancestor. I am quite new to this and could not work out how to send you a personal message.
Perhaps you could send me one first and I'll send you my email..
Aussieken