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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: RozG on Tuesday 21 April 09 13:02 BST (UK)
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I'm trying to find any info I can on George Elias Rendell & Martha Louisa Rendell ( Nee Ironside ) They came to Australia from England around 1912, they married in England in 1885, I think they lived in Victoria, they did have relo's in the Batlow,
I hope someone can help
Roz :-)
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Hi Roz
I can't seem to find this couple in the shipping records but it seems you may have their records.
Australian Electoral Rolls
1914, 1919
RENDELL George Ellias O'Grady's Ridge, Foster Labourer
RENDELL Martha Louise O'Grady's Ridge, Foster
1924
RENDELL George Elias Foster Labourer
Deaths
RENDELL George Elias
Father Rendell Robert Mother Unknown
At Wonthaggi 87 years 1937 Reg#19056
RENDELL Martha Louisa
Father Ironsides Wm Mother Ann SLADE
At Foster 58 years 1920 Reg#14489
Cheers
Cando
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Thank you Cando, Is Foster in Vic or NSW???
I have been searching for so long, I don't have a shipping record but I do know they came out with my Great Grandparent's, Martha's Brother Samuel Ironside and his wife Amy,
My Aunt found their wedding cert, and it had his Father as Robert, so your info must be right, I was told that maybe George was illegitimate...
Im just sooooo happy you found this for me, Thank you soooo much
:-) Roz
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Foster is in Gippsland, Victoria.
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
RENDELLGeorge 44 years amd Martha 43 years arrived Mar 1911 on the THEMISTOCLES Port B Fiche 821 Page 011
and there is a Samuel IRONSIDE but appears to have a wife Eliza and chn on the COMMONWEALTH arriving March 1911.
Cheers
Cando
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Hmmmm thats' weird I wonder if Samuel came over earlier with his sister Eliza, I know he came over in 1911 on the Commonweath with wife Amy and his Children William, Dorothy and George, I do have that shipping record...
Now I will have to work on seeing if Eliza came to Australia too.. LOL
Thank you for your help,
:-)
OOps you are right I just got out the shipping record and it does say Elizabeth not Amy, Now I am confused LOL
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Ah Roz.... belong to that club. ;D ;D
Here is the shipping record from PROV
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
On the Commonwealth arriving March 1911 Port B Fiche 820 Page 005
IRONSIDE Dorothy Miss 3 years
IRONSIDE Eliza Mrs 39 years
IRONSIDE Saul Mr 38 years
IRONSIDE W Master 9 years
IRONSIDE W Miss 1 year
Cheers
Cando
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Here they are on the electoral rolls...
1914 Victoria
IRONSIDE Amy Old Lead, Colbinabbin HD
IRONSIDE Samuel Old Lead Colbinabbin Carter
1930, NSW
IRONSIDE Amy Batlow HD
IRONSIDE Samuel Batlow Carter
and Amy with George Solomon IRONSIDE, labourer at Batlow in 1936.
Looks as though Eliza may be a transcription error on the shipping records.
Cheers
Cando
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Thank you Cando
I wonder what year they moved to Batlow I know they lived there in the 20's
Amy must have lived with her son George for awhile after Samuel died as I know she lived with my nan ( her daughter ) till she died in the 50's
I'm not sure how Eliza got on the shipping record Amy had no middle name, Samuel did have a sister Eliza thou..
Thanks again for your help, it is much appreciated..
Roz :-)
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Hi Roz
It is obviously an error on the shipping record. I have read some of the writing was extremely difficult to read. Perhaps a look at the shipping records may help.
Unfortunately the online electoral rolls for NSW are only available for the years 1930 and 1936. Victoria electoral rolls are available for years 1919, 1924 etc. I would say they moved between 1914 and 1919 as they didn't appear on the Vic 1919 rolls.
Cheers
Cando
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It's all very interesting that's for sure,
I had another look at the shipping document and it does say Mrs Elizabeth,
Still it would be interesting to find out why they put Elizabeth there,
Also how can I check the online electrol rolls?? is there a web site??
Thanks heaps
Roz :-)
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Hi Roz
I actually meant the fiche of the original shipping records. Do you have a copy of the original?
I will pm you info about electoral records.
Cheers
Cando
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Yes I have a copy of the original shipping record
:-)
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Roz
these are three entries in the Ironside Dictionary which relate to your family (as I read your posting). If we haven't been in contact before and you want a copy of the dictionary please send me your email address and I'll send it to you
kind regards
James Sanderson
Martha Louisa ~ (1864-?) (M478|M1885M1)
Birth: around 1864 (from Census 1881). Census: 1871 Melcombe Regis
DOR ENG female aged 7; Scholar; born Upway DOR; . Census: (Martha L.
~S) 1881 Watercombe DOR ENG at Heath Cottage; unmarried female
aged 17; Ag Servant; born Upway DOR; daur of William (W315).
Marriage: 1885q1 Poole DOR ENG MX. Father: William (W315).Mother:
Ann UNKNOWN (A667).C81.
William ~ (1829-1906) (W315|E1829W2)
Birth: around 1829 (from Death). Baptism: 17 Feb 1829 Fordington DOR
ENG Parents: William and Harriott VRI. Census: 1841 Fordington DOR
ENG at Damers Barn; male aged 12; Ag Lab; son of William (W248).
Census: 1851 Winterbourne Abbas DOR ENG male aged 22; born
Fordington DOR; son of William (W248). Marriage: 1855q3 Weymouth
DOR ENG to Ann UNKNOWN (A667) MX,C71. Census: 1871 Melcombe
Regis DOR ENG male aged 42; Farm Lab; born Fordington DOR; (alone in
household) {Son of William and Harriet}. Census: (William ~S) 1881
Watercombe DOR ENG at Heath Cottage; married male aged 52; Ag Lab;
born Fordington DOR; Household: Ann (wife, 49) (A667) Charles (son, 19)
Elizabeth E. (daur, 2) Emily C. (daur, 10) George F. (son, 7) James (son, 5)
Martha L. (daur, 17) Samuel (son, 8) William (head, 52) William J. (son)
Death: 1906q1 Blandford, Dor, ENG aged 77 DX.
Father: William (W248) Mother (Harriett ORCHARD (H50) C41, C51, VRI
Children: Mary Jane (M814) June Jessie 1859 (J1754) Charles 1861 (C101) Martha Louisa 1864 (M478) Elizabeth 1866 (E349) William John 1868 (W558) Emily Charlotte 1870 (E521) Samuel 1872 (S 21) George Frederick 1874 (G318) James 1875 (J425) Elizabeth Edith 1878 (E375)
William ~ (1806-1878) (W248|E1806W1)
Birth: around 1806 (from Death). Baptism: 5 Jan 1806 Winterbourne S M
DOR ENG Parents: James and Mary CoombsJS. Marriage: 12 Aug 1827
Winterborne Monkton DOR ENG to Harriet ORCHARD (H50) {Identity
established by JS}CBN. Census: 1841 Fordington DOR ENG at Damers
Barn; male aged 35; Ag Lab; Household: Harriet (wife, 40) (H50) William
(son, 12) John (son, 7) . Census: 1851 Winterbourne Abbas DOR ENG male
aged 45; born Martinstown DOR; Household: William (head, 45) Harriet
(wife, 54) (H50) William (son, 22) John James (son, 17) . Marriage:
1870q4 Weymouth DOR ENG {Guess that this is the marriage of William
to Margaret, known from C1871 - MHK}MX. Census: 1871 Upway DOR
ENG male aged 65; Millers Lab; born Martinstown DOR; Household:
William (head, 65) Margaret (wife, 56) (M222) . Death: 1878q3
Weymouth DOR ENG aged 72 DX. Father: James (J155).Mother: Mary
COOMBS (M529).JS. Children: William 1829 (W315), John 1831 (J1427),
John James 1834 (J1630).
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This would appear to be Samuel's death: (NSW BMDs)
1933 Samuel IRONSIDE, parents William and Ann Reg TUMUT No 21808 (Tumut is near Batlow)
And perhaps Amy:
1954 Amy IRONSIDE, parents Samuel, Emma Reg CAMPSIE 27461 (Campsie a suburb of Sydney)
George appears to have had two marriages:
1954 George Solomon IRONSIDE = Rena Cameron HERON Reg HURSTVILLE 22709 (Hurstville also in Sydney)
1934 George S IRONSIDE = Edna HARTNETT reg ADELONG 12374
Electoral rolls show George and Edna still in Batlow in 1943,
1949 he is at 18 Cambridge Ave, Bankstown (truck driver)
1943 and 1949 Rena Cameron HERON is in Batlow at the same adress as Samuel Henry HERON, but is also listed in 1949 at 41 Carrington Ave, Hurstville. (a double listing is fairly common when people moved and names not removed from a previous address)
Edna's death is listed on the Ryerson Index
http://www.ryersonindex.org/
IRONSIDE Edna Meryle (Merle), formerly of Batlow - Memorial Service - published in Tumut and Adelong Times published 14.11.2008 and 21.11.2008
Cheers, Judith
Locations are easily found on Googlemap ;D