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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: Foresthamlet on Monday 20 April 09 18:14 BST (UK)
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I'm trying to locate a 'Belmont Terrace' in Mansfield Notts....Can i find it!! ???
It must one of the roads cleared in the 70's, like Stanhope street...If anyone has a clue i'd love to hear...
Many thanks
foresthamlet
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If you do a google search for "belmont terrace" nottinghamshire the first hit is for an 1864 history/gazetteer for Notts. First of 5 cites in the book says "Belmont Terrace, Upper Talbot Street". Perhaps this gives a clue as to its location.
There also appears to be a current "Belmont Close" in Mansfield, Notts. Is this a possible name change?
Nick
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HI
According to the 1891 route of the enumeration area for the area of Mansfield district 7 Belmont terrace was filled in the order of Leeming Street, Clumber Street and then came Belmont Terrace.
If your wanting a more uptodate location then try contacting Mansfield/Notts local council.
Wendy
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Thanks for that..I shall email later...see what we get back
regards
foresthamlet
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Hello.... :)
I have a Mansfield Street directory circa 1974 and Belmont Terrace is listed on there so it has not been gone all that long.
The directory has a map and gives it’s location but try as we might we can’t find either, but it is in the area that Wendy mentioned.
In 1974 it mentions Pelidon Engineering Co Horticultural Engineers; Belmont Car Sales; M. J. Bray Car Sales and properties 1 – 20…..I remember businesses and properties where the Wilkinson’s store is now –Clumber Street NG18 1NU….and have a suspicion as to that’s where Belmont Terrace might have been,
I hope it jogs someone else’s memory.
Sheila.
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HI
Thanks for giving some names Dizzifish as it helped me to do a search in the Ancestry phone books under the company name of Pelidon (Engineering) Co, Lawnmower Mfrs & Servicing and it was still there right upto at least 1980.
Sadly without a surname a search can't be done on that source.
Wendy
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HI
Hope you dont mind but I was curious so I mailed Mansfield Council and here is their reply
"Belmont Terrace was positioned between Clumber Street and West Hill Drive, Mansfield near to the General Hospital in the town centre. Clumber Street area has been redeveloped, but both Clumber Street and West Hill Drive still remain. There is a large store in the area where Belmont Terrace was now"
So it looks like Shiela a.k.a Dizzfish was correct.
Wendy
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Hello all…. :)
I have managed to have a look at some Mansfield books I have and I found one with an actual black and white aerial photograph taken in about 1931 – it has a drawing to help locate some of the streets and Belmont Terrace is marked on it;
Mansfield and Sutton libraries etc have copies -
Mansfield a pictorial history - Author: Bradbury David J. - ISBN: 1860773370
Regards,
Sheila.
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Hi Guys, this information is great..
I also had a word with a guy that works at the 'Mansfield Chad', who very kindly uploaded some pictures from their archives, to their website for us to have a look at.. :)
If you'd like to take a look the address is...
http://www.photostoday.co.uk/Gallery.aspx?GalleryID=23423
Regards
foresthamlet
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Hi,
I'm intrigued to know if you had family living in Belmont Terrace as my Elizabeth Slaney died there in 1898.
Thanks.
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Try here... A great website - all images of Mansfield and surrounding areas. I did a search, but only found one reference to Belmont Terrace though, in conjunction with Clumber street - demolition I think, but you may pick something else up in a search.
I too have family from early Mansfield. PAULSON, Dunnill and SYKES, actually heading there next month to see some art work of a relative at the Museum. And also looking for old addresses!
Anyway some great shots on the website
http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NCCW001931&pos=1&action=zoom&id=50907
Jeanne
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Hi Jeanne,
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I will check out the website. I have been to Mansfield today (I live 2 hours away) and was looking for old addresses too. Where are you coming from? Do you have any connection to Ann Paulson from Mansfield who was a Victorian Lady Artist?
Thanks again,
Sharon
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Hi Sharon, I'm in NZ, and Yes, Ann Paulson is my relative, by marriage, and it is her work I am going to see at the Museum! They are kind enough to be making them available to me to view. And there's one hanging in the Police Station too I believe!
Ann (Dawn) Paulson's husband, John Paulson, is my 2nd great grand uncle, the son of my 3rd great grandparents, George PAULSON and Rachel Sykes. His sister Catherine was my 2x great grandmother.
Yes, and I have the The Victorian Lady Artist book, if you have it, you will see that my great grandmother Jane Dunnill, "at the great distress of her family, ran away from home to marry Henry Mathews"!
Let me introduce you to HENRY, he's that good looking guy on my profile photo!
Dare I ask hopefully, do you have a connection as well??
Jeanne
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Hi Jeanne,
Sadly I am not related to Ann Paulson, but my distant cousin wrote the book that you mentioned and he also kindly gave me a copy. It is a long time ago since I read it and so can't remember all of the details of Ann's life. I hope that you enjoy your visit to Mansfield. Unfortunately some of it's streets would benefit from a considerable amount of cash injection, but that can be said for many towns in England now. I did visit the very modern library but only to view family history books that are on the shelves. I wish now that I had booked a reader so that I could trawl through some old newspapers. We are having quite warm weather in England at the moment and I hope that it continues for your visit. Where else are you visiting when you are in England?
Best regards, Sharon
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Ow wow! Your cousin did a great Job on the book! Imagine buying a book about an artist, and getting the added bonus of lots of detail about her own and her husband's families, as well as the Lady herself! What a woman she was too! And I think I have the answer to why the marriage of my great grandmother was not approved of by her family!
When I emailed the curator of the Museum to see if the book was still available, I outlined my connection to her. Ordered the book, and when it arrived, was such a surprise how much more I got out of it! When I emailed her after I received the book, she wrote back that she knew I would love it!
I do have a number of images of her paintings, but have also got 3 or 4 on here also, a month or so ago on the photo restoration board, having frames tidied up, and some reflections removed! The restorers of course did a marvellous job!
Arrive London, then Ayrshire, Dublin, Mansfield, Westbury, back to London, then home! I'll be in UK for most of July.
Really looking toward to seeing the paintings, and other families connected to me! This will be my 3rd trip following my families lives! It's very rewarding, but I'm going to have to take in washing and go out scrubbing floors when I get back!! 😱😱
Yes, I've seen on the news about your heatwave? My first visit was in 2003 - another big heat wave in UK and Europe. Then again in 2013, but a wonderful summer month in August! Only 1/2 hr rain in London, and 1/2 hr rain in Edinburgh at the Tattoo! I'm got lucky I'm told!
Jeanne 😄
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New to this site, have been looking for info on Belmont terrace in Mansfield,we used to live at 2 Belmont terrace before we moved onto West Hill Drive,while living there I used to help out at Pelidon eng after school I went to Brunts school and worked there cleaning push along lawn mowers,they were taken to bits I would clean the blades they would get sharpened and then I would paint them,it gave me money to afford my first motorbike,I also used to deliver the recorder and had a morning paper round and delivered the Chad on a Wednesday afternoon I think it was for Brights newsagents on the corner of West Hill Drive and leeming lane,this was demolished to make way for the ring road,we left and moved to West hill Drive around 1980.
There were also 2 car repair garages on Belmont terrace which lead down to clumber street at the side of the Cashade amusement arcade and Hamills electrical shop,there was also a carpark at the rear of the shops on clumber street which was the BSM carpark where we usd to play football for hours,lurchills alley way ran from woodhouse road to clumber street between West Hill Drive and Belmont Terrace,we were there while different stages of the clumber street car park were underway seeing the garden at no 1 Belmont terrace dissappear to make way for car parking,my friend from school lived in the Labour Club (changed to Boothys) I also helped out at the Mansfield Kawasaki motorbike shop at the bottom of West Hill Drive,I'm looking for old pics I know we have will post when I find them,it's great to remember those times.
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I can’t see any map references above, so…
here is Belmont Terrace on the 1958 1:1250 OS map
https://maps.nls.uk/view/210786057#zoom=4.5&lat=6193&lon=5080&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/210786057#zoom=4.5&lat=6193&lon=5080&layers=BT)
and here is the same map in a side-by-side view with a modern map
https://tinyurl.com/8p33tfew (https://tinyurl.com/8p33tfew)
It’s already there on this 1899 map, but it isn't labelled:
https://tinyurl.com/8p33tfew (https://tinyurl.com/8p33tfew)
It first appears on censuses in 1881 (based upon a simple address search at Find my Past), and this fits nicely with the earliest newspaper hit for "Belmont Terrace Mansfield" which is in an edition of the Mansfield Reporter from March 1882.
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I think this is the third one:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/115390390#zoom=5.3&lat=6355&lon=2544&layers=BT
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Coincidentally, I also live in Belmont Terrace!
But in Douglas, Isle of Man ;)
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Thankyou so much for your help on this matter I really appreciate it,the maps are excellent,and Douglas you do get busy with the bikes nice
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I think this is the third one:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/115390390#zoom=5.3&lat=6355&lon=2544&layers=BT
Thanks MollyC, got my links in a twist!
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No problem. At first I thought I had my fingers in a twist! I didn't want Vfour1965 to be confused.
Interesting to hear stories about a lost landscape.
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Interesting to hear stories about a lost landscape.
I think we share an obsession!
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Just found this question. I lived on Belmont Terrace up until around 1980. VfOUR1965 is very accurate and I'm pretty sure I knew him, I'm guessing it's Paul. I'm Stefan and lived at number 19.
As others have said, Belmont Terrace was located between Clumber Street and West Hill Drive. You couldn't see it from clumber street because it was behind the shops and other buildings. To access Belmont Terrace by car, you had to go up the dirt road next to the amusement arcade (playland) on Clumber street. Belmont Terrace consisted of 20 houses and had a dirt road which led around the front and back. There was an archway between numbers 6 and 7, big enough to get a car through. Opposite the archway was a gate into the Lurchills.
There was waste ground to the front and a gravel car park. As kids, we'd play football in the car park, make swings in the trees and ride our bikes on the dirt track around the houses, cutting through the archway so we could do lap after lap. Those living there used to hang their washing out across the back, between the kitchen wall and the Lurchills wall, so understandably they weren't very happy if we were riding our bikes through their washing!
All the houses had an outside toilet, which was against the Lurchills wall. So if you needed the toilet, you had to go out the back door, through the small yard, cross the dirt track, just to use the toilet. It was freezing in winter in the 70s!
Gradually the council bought all the houses, we were the last to sell up and leave. They were knocking them down to build the ring road. I drive along the ring road where I once lived and try and guess where my house was. The row of houses was probably on the stretch of road that runs behind the disused nightclub and wilkos.
Have great memories of Belmont Terrace.
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Stefan I am old enough to have parked my car in that car park many times, I worked on Regent Street.
I am afraid Clumber Street is desolate these days, Wilkos being empty has made a huge difference.
Mind you there is still the Stag and Pheasant ;D
I often think about Lurchills when I see it when I drive down St Johns Street and on to Clumber Street. I don't know if you can walk along it still or whether it's blocked off at the end.
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Hi Stefan it is Paul,we had some great times there playing football for hours on the BSM carpark and lap after lap around the houses avoiding the washing great times great memories,are you still living on ladybrooke lane,
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Have a few more pics Stefan,and yesterday my neighbour had a baby they have called her Mabel which immediately made me think of your mum and the get a post from you funny how life works.
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Our old house no 2 and northridges no 1 on the end
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Hi Paul, great to hear from you. I'm living just off Nottingham Rd now mate.
That photo you put up of the kids must have been when the street started going downhill, it looks a right mess! I'm trying to guess who the kids are. I don't think the tall one is me. The other lad looks like stephen P, from west hill drive and the smaller one looks like your Mark. But I'm only guessing, it's over 45 years ago.
I've found a few photos that show the front, back and car park where we used to play.
Also added the last one to see if you remember us together.
Tell your neighbour that Mabel is a great name. I think it's coming back into fashion!
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To paul, I got mixed up, your youngest brother was Simon I think. You, Jane, Richard and Simon.
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Really nice to hear from you too Stefan,the pictures are great really nice to see you mum and dad on there and that's definitely jane you and i on the last pic such a pleasure to see us as children and where we used to play,it is simon but his middle name is mark,we're not sure who the tall one is but straight away we said it looks like simon and yes could be Stephen pobihun,simon jane and I all live in south Wales and richard in Cornwall,jane said she can remember your mum always gave us kit kats.
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Lurchills leading onto clumber street