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Title: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: OzKat on Monday 20 April 09 10:21 BST (UK)
We don't know who this is but we are trying to work it out. But to help would someone please date the dress for me.

I don't yet know who the photographer was but I am trying to get that information from the relative with the photo.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kath
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Gadget on Monday 20 April 09 11:19 BST (UK)
Hi Kath

What a lovely photograph.  I'd say 1860s by the dress style and, keeping my options open,  will go with the middle period - say 1863-1867.

I'm sure Jim, china, OR and Prue will be along,soon to confirm or deny  :)


Gadget
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: PrueM on Monday 20 April 09 11:22 BST (UK)
Confirmed  ;) ;D

Interesting photo with a lovely detailed background, and the lady's dress is absolutely gorgeous  :)

Prue
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Monday 20 April 09 12:01 BST (UK)
Hi Kath,

What a beautiful picture.

i love the decoration on the dress

Rabbit B  ;D
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: jim1 on Monday 20 April 09 17:02 BST (UK)
Hello Kath
Agree this is a super photo.Late 1860's possibly 1870.
Interesting pose as she has her l/h index finger pointing down usually drawing attention to a wedding ring.

jim
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: chewboy on Monday 20 April 09 17:33 BST (UK)
Weren't ringlets de rigeur during the 1860s ???

Mark
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: jim1 on Monday 20 April 09 17:37 BST (UK)
She doesn't have ringlets,this is a plaited chignon.
jim
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Gadget on Monday 20 April 09 18:20 BST (UK)
I still think it'smid - late 1860s - dress is not 1870s.

Ringlets are early 1860s aren't they?

Gadget
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: jim1 on Monday 20 April 09 18:57 BST (UK)
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dress is not 1870s.
Agree..but didn't say it was,late 1860's was when this belted dress became popular,but can still be seen very early 1870's,hence the date late 1860's up to 1870.Her hairstyle was favoured by younger women and this swept back away from the ears style from mid 1860's but you can still see  ringlets on older women at this time,but yes generally an 1850's early 60's thing.

jim
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: PrueM on Monday 20 April 09 21:41 BST (UK)
Ringlets 1840s-early 60s but it did vary depending on whether older women thought they suited them or not...I've got a mid-late 60s photo of a woman in her 30s wearing some very dire looking ringlets - looks like a drowned rat!  ;D

I'm going mid-late 60s for the photo because the skirt is still very full but simple in comparison to anything from the 1870s; the hairstyle is typical 1860s, and the fact that the hair is completely above/behind the ears suggests it's not early 60s.
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Monday 20 April 09 21:45 BST (UK)
Confirmed  ;) ;D

Interesting photo with a lovely detailed background, and the lady's dress is absolutely gorgeous  :)

Prue

Hi Prue,

As a matter of interest does this skirt look like silk to you?

Rabbit B  ???
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: PrueM on Monday 20 April 09 22:06 BST (UK)
Hi Rabbit  :)

I'd say so - I suppose it could be a cotton or a cotton-silk blend but my first impression is that it's silk.
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Monday 20 April 09 22:34 BST (UK)
Thank you Prue,

It has that lovely silk sheen about it doesn't it.

I wonder if those daisies would have been hand made by crochet or something, any ideas?

Rabbit B  :)
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: chinakay on Monday 20 April 09 23:21 BST (UK)
I'm going to jump in on the dating...can't resist this dress :) I'm going to say after about 1865 when the hairstyle started showing the ears, and before about 1868 when the huge crinoline started to disappear. So 1865-1868ish :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Niksmum on Monday 20 April 09 23:23 BST (UK)
what a great photo

Irene
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Monday 20 April 09 23:33 BST (UK)
That's better Irene,

Now I can see it properly.

Thank you, for the sake of my eyes!

Rabbit B  ;D
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Niksmum on Monday 20 April 09 23:53 BST (UK)
when you see such a great photo...well, you just have to add some color don't you?  ;D

Irene
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Tuesday 21 April 09 00:12 BST (UK)
That is really beautifull Irene,

It brings the whole picture alive.

Rabbit B  ;D
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: chewboy on Tuesday 21 April 09 01:26 BST (UK)
The child was born in 1866
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: OzKat on Tuesday 21 April 09 08:10 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone - mid to later 1860s seems to be the consensus. Now I just need to find out where it was taken and hopefully we can work from there.
Kath ;)
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Tuesday 21 April 09 22:09 BST (UK)
The child was born in 1866

Hi chewboy,

'Scuse me for being confused, but is this picture of mother and child the same lady? Are you related to Kath perchance?

Sorry to be nosy, but getting it straight stops my brain getting addled! ;D

Rabbit B  :)
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: chewboy on Tuesday 21 April 09 23:22 BST (UK)
Hi Rabbit B

Not that I know of  ;)

I merely put it on to show the dress as being much the same ;D

It is so easy to get side tracked, isn't it ;D

Mark :)
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Tuesday 21 April 09 23:45 BST (UK)
Hi Mark,

Thanks for clarifying it. We are supposed to stay on track you see.  It is called going 'off topic' otherwise.

Fashions in the same era are very similar, that is what makes it so interesting.

If you want your picture restored, it is wise to start another thread then everyone will know it is yours, not Kath's.  ;)

Rabbit B  ;D
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: chewboy on Wednesday 22 April 09 00:18 BST (UK)
I didn't ask for any work on it, but it seemed a good idea, so have resized it and posted a new thread.

Mark :)
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: saddles on Wednesday 22 April 09 06:55 BST (UK)
Hi Kath......  I could not refrain from colouring your delightful photo.

Carolyn  :)
Title: Re: Mystery woman - please date the dress
Post by: Rabbit B on Wednesday 22 April 09 11:07 BST (UK)
I didn't ask for any work on it, but it seemed a good idea, so have resized it and posted a new thread.

Mark :)

Hi Mark,

It is a lovely picture, so that is the best thing to do. I will look for it.  :D
 
Hi Carolyn,

What a fantastic job you have done there, I love the colours.

I bet that Kath will be thrilled with that, it goes well with the gorgeous one Irene did.

Rabbit B  ;D