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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: DudleyWinchurch on Saturday 18 April 09 01:10 BST (UK)
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Shane / eadaoin
If you're not too busy, I wonder if you could lookup:
C Mooney, 29 Clonmore Road, Mountjoy
I'm hoping to find out when he was a photographer from that address.
The street does not seem to have been there in 1862 but there was a Christopher Mooney at that address in 1911, but not listed on the census as a photographer. Trying to identify a photograph that could have been much earlier (or later) than that.
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sorry - I dont see a Clonmore Rd. listed in 1863 Thoms
The modern Clonmore Rd, is a little bit away from Mountjoy Sq. (c 1km), and is in the Ballybough, Summerhill area
There very few Photographers - and no Mooney
Shane
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Thanks Shane,
it was a really long-shot as I couldn't find the street in the on-line 1862 directory. There is a house in that street up for sale. I wonder if the agents know when it was built.
Mean-time, I guess I need some in-between directories. Would the libraries in Dublin hold those?
I don't suppose anyone knows of anywhere in Belfast that I could find Dublin directories or the Dublin 1901 census or similar resources? It will be a while before I get back to Dublin.
[sorry: meant to add that is is definitely the Clonmore Road in Ballybough (district Mountjoy on the 1911 census) ]
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I had a look at a Dublin 1885 map - and there's still no Clonmore Rd.
Some of my ancestors lived very close to this, in Ballybough, Foster Terrace and Charlesville ave.
I suspect the road was build after 1894 as it's not mentioned in an 1894 directory.
There are other Thoms available, it's still publishing today, depends on the library as to which ones may be available.
Shane
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Thanks again Shane,
and for the list of photographers.
At least if the address did not exist before 1894 then that helps date the photo and it must be later than I thought.
PS I'm having enormous problems on RootsChat today but it seems to have just woken up again, ... or is it just me having problems?
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Really S L O W for me too
S.
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found two mentions of Clonmore Rd. that might help put a date on it..
Tue Oct 14, 1902
Houses and land for Sale
Attractive Investment - New Houses, Clonmore road;
let at £ 23[unclear] and £32; sell, pay 8 per,
cont. - Lynch and Egan Builders, 195 Great Brunswick street
Sat Oct 31, 1908
Executors Sale
8 Clonmore Road
close to both Clontarf....[unclear]
(Times)
Shane
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That is interesting Shane,
as it more or less rules out the possibility of there being an older generation of the same family, previously at the same address, that might have been the photographer.
It's looking more likely that the 1911 Christopher, a lithographic printer, living with his brother, a bookbinder, was indeed the one who became a photographer. And that dates the photo as post 1911.
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i'm away at the moment - will have a look at 1922 and 1937 Thoms when I get back 28/29 April
eadaoin
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Thanks eadaoin,
this is getting more intriguing as Jim has just identified the photo as 1880s to 1890s and if she is who she now seems most likely to be then should be 1892-93 but the road doesn't seem to have existed at all then.
here's a link:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,377322.0.html
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hi DudleyWinchurch
1922 Christopher Mooney ... also 1937 and 1941
1956 Laurence Mooney
eadaoin
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Thanks eadaoin,
The family obviously were connected to that address for a considerable period of time. In 1911, both brothers (both the same age and both married) were at that address. For the 1939 electoral roll, Laurence is there but Christopher seems to be at a different address.
It now looks like the photo was taken about 1892, when the brothers would have been about 17, so I'm still left wondering if the photographer came from the previous generation.
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Address at bottom of pic
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A Christopher Mooney (husband of Esther) from that address died 13 April 1913.
He was 40 and described as a printer.
In his will, he is described as a painter.
https://willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014918/005014918_00237.pdf
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Looks more like 15 April 1913 (and on the will extract as well).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05336/4485621.pdf
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Sorry, my mistake.