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Title: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: stileslisa9 on Friday 17 April 09 19:53 BST (UK)
Hi

Was wondering if anyone could possibly try to bring out the writing on this headstone. It belongs to an Eliza Bowden. I am looking in particular, for any dates that can be found?

Many thanks!!
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: PaulaToo on Monday 20 April 09 00:29 BST (UK)
I'll start, can anyone do better ???
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: chewboy on Monday 20 April 09 19:47 BST (UK)
Lisa

If you have access to the gravestone, I suggest you gently wash it , which should bring out the lettering.

Hey Paula

What are you doing drawing Andy Capp on that gravestone ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well decyphered

Mark :)
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: PaulaToo on Monday 20 April 09 20:28 BST (UK)
Well blow me, Mark...now youo come to mention it :D

I see the Typo Fairy has struck again...that should be YOU...not youo >:(
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: tigtig on Monday 20 April 09 20:48 BST (UK)
Sorry I can't help on the actual writing but the style of headstone and lettering is similar to head stones I found for my family that were 1750/1760ish. Don't suppose that helps much though!
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: PaulaToo on Monday 20 April 09 21:36 BST (UK)
It does confirm what I was hesitant to put down, tigtig.
I thought I could see 179? but wasn't too sure.
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: chewboy on Tuesday 21 April 09 01:12 BST (UK)
I actually thought it was

17 t [with a curly h] followed by Oct.... with an 8 lower down.

I fully expect to be proven totally wrong ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mark
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: PaulaToo on Tuesday 21 April 09 10:54 BST (UK)
I'm lost with this one, I can't make any more out.
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: MKG on Tuesday 21 April 09 11:16 BST (UK)
Not much time today - but here's a high-contrast version for you eagle-eyes.

Mike

Top part may be "SACRED TO" then "the memory of" then "ELIZ BOWDEN".
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: ottobottle on Tuesday 21 April 09 11:22 BST (UK)
I don't have the software with me right now as I'm at work but I'd suggest converting this image to black and white and experimenting with the contrast and saturation. I've done this before with gravestones and it can reveal more of the lettering. It works best when the light falling on the stone at the time the original photo was taken is from one side so that the shadows are there.
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: stileslisa9 on Wednesday 22 April 09 00:01 BST (UK)
Hi
Many thanks for the help! Will visit the headstone and try washing it gently. I may even go down the 'pre-technology' route and take a few rubbings from it as well. Thanks for trying, Ive got a little more to go on now I have a rough date!
Many thanks!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 April 09 00:53 BST (UK)
Here are two black and white copies.

I think I see 1545.  ???

Jamjar
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: ottobottle on Wednesday 22 April 09 09:48 BST (UK)
Across the top I think the word is "ERECTED", so we have "Erected to the memory of Eliz. Bowden". After that it could be "17th" or "7th" of a month (maybe October, there is a round shape but it could be a zero). Beyond that I can make out nothing except for what might half of an "8" which appears in line with the "z" of Eliz and midway between that and the base of the stone. I think the rest is so worn it'll be hard to do like this - the brass rubbing will be your best bet. Good luck!
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 02 May 09 13:49 BST (UK)
After adjusting the exposure I think it says

ERECTED
to
the memory of
ELIZ. BOWDEN
1786?
???
???

I can see 1786

What county was this in?

Matt
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: borntobounce on Monday 15 June 09 16:05 BST (UK)
What has helped me in the past is taking a sheet of paper and chalk or a piece of charcoal or even a wide lead pencil and gently rubbing the chalk over the paper ... the letters will not be filled in ... do not press too hard or you will fill in where the letters are because they are not deep anymore.  It's worth a try anyway.

Shelly
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: sanqhar on Tuesday 07 July 09 16:14 BST (UK)
Take some more photos as per the advice at:

PHOTOGRAPHING GRAVESTONES - Advice from our experts!!

In particular using flash at a 45 degree angle, or take along a powerful torch and shine it at the lettering from the side.

Early morning sun may also help.

tom
Title: Re: Bring out the writing on this??
Post by: Viktoria on Tuesday 07 July 09 18:06 BST (UK)
I think it says ERECTED
                          By
                 The Family Of
                 Eliza  Bowden----
the next line is a date  ,but unfortunately I can`t make it out ,but that is what you wanted ,so sorry I  can`t see it better. Best of luck. Viktoria.
P.S have you tried a rubbing?  holding a sheet of paper over the stone and rubbing over it with a thick black crayon or better still "cobbler`s heelball " black wax  for waxing  the strong thread  for hand stitched soles to you and me.You can get it in shops attached to Cathedrals for people who do rubbings  of the brass plaques marking graves in the Cathedral, of knights etc.