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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: wiggo53 on Friday 17 April 09 08:10 BST (UK)
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HI, I have been looking for quite some time now, for some/ANY information on my grandmother's family. Her name was Ellen Mona Cameron and she was born in Leith in 1897. Her parents names were Matilda Kelso and David Cameron. He was an Inn Keeper. Nana lead me to believe that she was from a very large family but I cannot find any trace of them anywhere that I have looked.
If you have any news of them, I would really appreciate hearing from you. Thanks
Heather
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Hi Heather
Welcome to RootsChat :)
I'm struggling to find them too! Have you actually found your gran's birth cert? I cannot see a birth on Scotlands People at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for an *El*en (to pick up on variants) Cameron in Leith in the year that you have. I also cannot see a marriage for a David Cameron/Kelso marriage at any point :-\
Monica
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Hi Wiggo, welcome to Rootschat :)
Can I ask where you have tried looking so far to prevent duplication of effort? The official source of BMDs in Scotland is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) so if your grandmother was born in Scotland after 1855 she should be on there. It is a pay-per-view site, but quite reasonably priced.
www.familysearch.org is another very useful website, although Scotland coverage stops around 1874, and there are gaps, although it is free, so always a good place to start.
Have you tried looking at the census records? Scotland's people have them, and there is also the FreeCen project which is gradually transcribing them. www.freecen.org.uk/ (http://www.freecen.org.uk/) There are other sources of census data but the transcriptions can sometimes leave a lot to be desired!
If you can find them in the 1901 census that should give you somewhere to start. Do you know if the family staying around the Lothians of if they moved away?
1901 census search on SP shows 10 matches for Matilda Cameron, and 1 for Matilda Kelso, so a good place to start.
Have you tried searching for the death certificates of David and Matilda? They may give names of other children, depending on who registered the death. It should also give an address which might help.
There is no marriage showing in Scotland before 1933 for David and Matilda. Did they show as married on Ellen's Birth certificate?
Where in Leith were they living at the time of Ellen's birth?
Sorry lots of questions an no answers yet!
Kirsty
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Hi Heather
If David and Matilda did not marry then Ellen may have been registered under Kelso at birth. There are 2 matches on SP for *el*en kelso 1896-1898 in all Scotland.
Kirsty
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Thank you so very much MonicaLesl and Kirsty for your quick reply. I am very new at this, but have been tearing my hair out (mainly the grey ones!) over my nan. I have such great memories of her.
I got her parent's names from nan's second marriage to my grandad - Angus Alexander Reid of Huntly, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia in 1920. I may have read Matilda's name wrong as now it looks like Matildia. I can find a few of the entries as well on the 1901 census. She was visiting her parents on that evening, but not with her hubby David Cameron. The only other info I have is that nan moved to London at 15 (1913) to work as a nurse. She met and married a man named E Priestly in Jan 1918 and became a widow in June 1918, during the WW1. Nan has an entry on the Passenger Lists of 1919 on the Port Lincoln travelling from London to Sydney, Australia. She then met Grandad and moved to Huntly with him and then married in 24/1/1920.
On her marriage certificate to grandad, she is listed as Mona Cameron. I will keep looking for death certificates, as, as you suggested, this may give more information. It is driving me crazy! She was such a bright and important part of my life, I wish she were still around to ask all of these questions!
Many thanks again for your time and effort.
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HI wiggo
What 1901 census entries have you found that might help in finding out more info?
Monica :)
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Hi again ladies. Thank you for the suggestion of *l*en Kelso or Cameron. I searched for the 2 entries in the 1901 census, but sadly, neither were my great grandmother. I cannot find any indication other than the 1891 census where Matilda was with her parents at her grandmother's house with her brothers and sisters. David seems to be an enigma with no sign of him either. I have searched as many bases as I can to find Ellen, or Mona as she was named on her war wedding certificate to my grandad. It was on this certificate that I found her mum and dad's name and she nominated Leith as her birthplace in 1898. I have now sent for her first marriage certificate to E Priestly in 1918 to see if I can get any more information from that. Due to the fact I am an Aussie, I have to have it sent to me by post which I assume will take a few weeks. I will endeavour to keep searching for clues though!
Thanks again for both your interests. It really is catchy isnt it? :D
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Beware, all this research can be addictive :P
I hope you get some more info from the first marriage certificate.
Fingers crossed
Kirsty
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If you are interested you can find Eric Priestly's army enlistment papers at:
http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au/list-name.aspx?name=Priestley
12 hours later: Having now read through the records, Australia should be proud of this man.
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Thanks so much for this info, I am rapt. We always thought that nan married an englishman!
Am continuing to look into the marriage situation for more information. You really have made my day! Thanks again.
Heather
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Akwaaba, I have just spent the past three hours on that website, reading 103 pages of info on my nan's first husband's war service. I feel like I know the man already! Many thanks again, you have given me the oomph to keep looking for nana. ;D
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Wiggo
Just to have it on the post for any reference, this is the only Matilda Kelso I can see on the 1881 census in Scotland. Mother's name is interesting, if your Ellen was called after her (maybe at this stage!):
James Redmond 66, labourer, b. Ireland
Mary Redmond 60, b. Ireland
Patrick Redmond 20, son, labourer, b. Ireland
Alexander Kelso 27, son in law, labourer, b. Ireland
Ellen Kelso (Redmond) 26, b. Ireland
Matilda Kelso 6, granddaughter b. Greenock
Robert Kelso 4, grandson, b. England
Margaret Kelso 1, granddaughter, b. England
Robert Halliday 21, visitor, b. Ireland
Elizabeth Halliday 20, visitor, b. Ireland
Address: 7 Lennox Land Inch Green St, Greenock East, Renfrewshire
And the family in 1891 - all the children showing as born in Greenock:
Alexander Kelso 32, Sugarhouse Labr, b. Ireland
Ellen Kelso 32, b. Ireland
Matilda Kelso 16, Millworker (Wool)
Robert Kelso 14
Margaret Kelso 12
James Kelso 10
John Kelso 5
Ellen Kelso 3
Address: 32 Inverkip St, Greenock Renfrewshire
I cannot see this family in the 1901 census index nor can I see a death for mother *El*n Redmond/Kelso in Scotland post 1891...which sort of brings us back to where we were before.... :-\
Monica
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Not such an interesting tale for his brother - Priestley, Leon Roy Carrington.
A spanner in the works or lateral thinking. Leith TAS Australia?
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That was a great link to Eric's military records Akwaaba :)
Just looking at the details on next of kin etc. The marriage between Eric and Ellen took place in Chester 1st Qrt 1918. There looks to be two addresses for wife Ellen, firstly in Widnes, Cheshire then this looks to have been scored through an address in Southwark London added.
I wonder if Ellen's family were living in Lancashire at the time of her marriage to Eric? There is this death for example:
Deaths 1st Qrt 1918 - Matilda Cameron, 40, Prescot 8b 885
A search of birth in Lancashire between 1900 - 1920, brings up quite a number, including a Kenneth but more importantly:
Births 4th Qrt 1912
Cameron Florence A (Kelso- mother's maiden name) Nantwich 8a 570
Births 3rd Qrt 1915
CAMERON Anne McK (Kelso- mother's maiden name) Prescot 8b 1262
And Prestcot from that 1915 birth is where a couple of years later we have a death for a Matilda Cameron....
Still completely stuck on marriages for David and Matilda or any relevant birth entry for Ellen.
Monica
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MonicaLes you are brilliant! I think you may have hit the jackpot with the Cameron clan. My uncle (nan's youngest, Malcolm) told me at Xmas that he thought that nan's family had only one son and his name was Kenneth. He remembered that he went off to war but thought he enlisted in the American air force but not sure. I had not considered that Nan's family may have moved to England with her because all I am going on at this stage is the fading memories of my dear old 86 year old dad. My dad changed his birth certificate at 16 to make himself 18 so he could enlist. He basically came home, married mum and got on with life. Sadly, he didnt ask his mum many questions re his heritage. I really appreciate all of this help from everyone. ;D
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I have noticed you asking about Cameron from Leith, I hope I can help with what I have found out in the last 5 days.
I was looking for information on a Eric Priestly who is buried in Widnes Cemetery Cheshire England. I found his war records and found that he died at reading No1 war hospital on 11th June 1918 and was buried from 16 Margaret Street Widnes Lancashire. His wife's name was Ellen Priestly and they married on 9th February 1918. The address's for them were Eric Eaton Temperance Hotel City Road Chester and for Ellen 15 Trinity Street Chester. His Father is down as Harry Priestly Store Keeper and her father as David Cameron Innkeeper. They were married at Chester Registry Office and the witness's were James Murray and Annie Dolan.
Also in the records for Widnes Cemetery are Matilda Cameron 16 Margaret Street Widnes died 8-1-1918 age 40 buried in plot 11R grave 2696 William Cameron 16 Margaret Street Widnes died 16-3-1970 age 78 in plot 12C grave 4644.
I am going to Widnes Library Thursday/Friday to view the local paper to see if the Burial for Eric Priestly is in which I believe it will.
This happens because a friend and myself found his Commonwealth Headstone and wondered why he was buried in Widnes.
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Hi nelbec, thanks so much for that information. It definitely gives me an explanation of why my nan seemed to have buried eric from a different address than hers. They obviously had all moved over to England to be with nan (Ellen). It did say that there were a large number of mourners at the funeral which I couldnt understand being that eric was an aussie soldier and I couldnt imagine the difficulty of getting to England at the end of WW!. The family in mour ning would have been my nan's own family.
I cant thank you enough for sharing this information with me and would appreciate it if you come across anything more regarding the Camerons of Leith...or Chester!
Heather :D :o :)
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Ellen had a brother named Alexander and he was badly injured in early 1918 and was hospitalized in Scotland (no Information) he was serving in the Gorden Highlanders and had been in France for 16 months prior to this. Before he enlisted he worked at Widnes Foundry and as a boy attended St Maries School, these are in an area of Widnes called Newtown were Margaret Street was. His sister Ellen Cameron who was recently married to an Australian soldier has worked for 15 months with the Navy and Army Canteen Board, 9 of which she spent in France.She also served as a stewardess on The Spectator a ship of The Harrison Line.
Widnes Weekly News 31st May 1918
There is also a photograph of Alexander and of Ellen in the same report but did not turn out on the copying sorry.
The funeral of Eric Earnest Priestly took place in Widnes the husband Mrs Ellen Priestly of 16 Margaret Street.They were only married in January of this year Mrs Priestly being then in France in the service of the Navy and Army Canteen Board.(She must have come home, My comments). Private Priestly was 25 years old joined the Australian forces early in the war and had been wounded 4 times before receiving the wounds to which he succumbed in hospital in Reading on June 9th.He was the first Australian soldier to be killed or died of wounds received to be interred in the cemetery( still is the only one,my comments) The funeral was attended by a firing party of the South Lancashire Regiment from Warrington, and also a party of buglers.The coffin being covered with the Union Jack. The Rev H. j. Gibbins (Vicar of St Pauls ) officiated and the chief mourners were Mrs Priestley (widow) Mr W Cameron ( father -in-law) Private Alex. Cameron ( brother-in-law) of the Gorden Highlanders (who obtained leave from hospital and attended on crutches. Mr Tom Cooksey (friend of the deceased and a discharged Australian Soldier) Mrs Myers, Mrs Jones, Mr and Mrs Shaw Mr Ned Flanagan, Mr Edward Tobin, Mr M Hastings and a number of employees from the Muspratt Works( another works from Newtown)
A bit of information on Eric's family his father was Henry Samuel Priestly his mother was Amy nee Carrington. married Sydney 1885. Henry died 1939 and Amy 1937.
Hope this helps if I find anything else out I will be in touch.
The reason I got involved is when we found the headstone in Widnes cemetery and wondered why and found out he was buried from 16 Margaret Street. I became more interested as my Grandfather lived at 24 Margaret Street and worked at Muspratts at the same time and must have known the Cameron family. They do say it is a small world how true.
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Nelbec, welcome to RootsChat :) I just caught up with your posts....WOW! What a huge amount of information you have provided to Heather. You have filled out a lot of info that would have been hard for her to obtain.
Heather, I must admit I've become a bit obsessed with your Ellen and family ;D I have gone up and down the censuses in both Scotland and England and have to admit that I think something is not right with the info we may have to work from.
With Nelbec's help, we now have a little more info on possible siblings for Ellen. Apart from the Kenneth that you were aware of, there is also an Alexander who looks to have been born pre 1900 (given his war activity in WW1) and the births we found for a couple of sisters up to 1915.
I am struggling with a couple of things! I cannot see an Alexander and/or Ellen with mother Matilda in 1901 under either Cameron or Kelso.
What I have found, if you remember the only possible entries for Matilda Kelso in 1881 and 1891, below is the 1891 for reference, Matilda showing as born in Greenock:
Alexander Kelso 32, Sugarhouse Labr, b. Ireland
Ellen Kelso 32, b. Ireland
Matilda Kelso 16, Millworker (Wool)
Robert Kelso 14
Margaret Kelso 12
James Kelso 10
John Kelso 5
Ellen Kelso 3
Address: 32 Inverkip St, Greenock Renfrewshire
There is also a likely marriage for this Matilda showing on Scotlands People:
1893 David HIGGINS and Matilda KELSO in GREENOCK WEST, RENFREW
Now this couple moved down to Cheadle, Cheshire ::) for 1901. Interesting names for their children!:
David Higgins 30, labourer on railway, b. Scotland
Matilda Higgins 26, b. Scotland
Alexander Higgins 5, b. Greenock
Ellen Higgins 2, b. Didsbury, Lancashire
Mary Higgins 3 months, b. Cheadle, Cheshire
RG13; Piece: 3300; Folio: 64
I also noted from Nelbec's info that in newspaper article for Eric's funeral, father in law is showing as W. Cameron.....
Getting confusing!
Monica :)
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Hi to Monica and nelbec. You people are just fantastic! I really was of the opinion that my Nan was going to always remain a true mystery. Thanks to your fantasti c efforts I am starting to get excited about finding out more! Monica, I totally agree that there is a lot of confusion with Matilda's partner/husband. On nan's wedding certificate to Eric, she has listed herself as being born in Leith, Scotland and that her father's name was David Cameron. My dear old dad (Alexander, would you believe? ) who is a pretty fit 86year old living in Melbourne, Australia seems to remember that Nan had told him and his brother Malcolm, sister Marjorie that their grandad on mum's side was indeed an inn keeper. It is very confusing, but I do hope you remain with me on this, as I am not able to do it on my own. I am presently in hospital in Australia and hope to hear from you again. Many thanks to you both : Heather - would you believe - Wiggins!
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Hi Heather
Poor you - hope your hospital stay is short and successful :)
Did you get the reference to Ellen being born in Leith from her marriage cert? That's unusual as this information is not normally included on marriage certs.
I think I have the Higgins family in 1911. I haven't viewed the original image just the index for the household...again more twists and turns!
Alexander Higgins, 41, gen. lab., b. Greenock Scotland - why not David
Matilda Higgins, 35, b. Greenock Scotland
Alexander Higgins, 15, green (general?) lab., b. Greenock Scotland
Ellen Higgins, 13, b. Stockport Lancashire
Agnes, Higgins, 12, b. Greenock Scotland
Mary Higgins, 10, b. Stockport Cheshire
Francies Emma (son?) Higgins, 8, b. Stockport Cheshire
Matilda Higgins, 6, b. Stockport Lancashire.
Catherine Higgins, 4, b. Stockport Lancashire
Marget Higgins, 5 months, b. Stockport Cheshire
William Cameron, relative, single, 34, general labourer, b. Greenock Scotland
34 Kingston Street, Stockport, Cheshire
Matilda and Alexander show as married for 17 years which would fit with that 1893 marriage in Greenock Scotland. Why the Alexander rather than David?! And the arrival of a William Cameron in the household... And we have a W.Cameron showing as father in law to Eric in 1918...
I have no idea on the geography down in that part of the world. Nelbec, from your knowledge, are these addresses relevant to the school that Alexander shows as having attended?
Monica
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From Stockport to Widnes is 25 miles it takes 30 minutes today on the motorway I dont think it was possible in those days. Also there is no mention of other children in everything I have found so I do not think the Higgins family are connected, but you never know. I will keep searching and will let you know. ???
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sorry if this just confuses things but may be worth looking at
birth for Matilda Cameron 1872 in Port Glasgow
there is also a William Cameron born 1874 Port Glasgow
the parents names are William Cameron and Jane Gallina
there are Alexander Cameron's on there too
but different parents
Elaine
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Trying to get my head round other sources that could be checked. Heather I know that you are in NZ and checking your sources yourself is impossible. Somethings to keep in mind for further checks:
- Electoral roll at Margaret Street pre and post Matilda's death
- One of the girls births we have under Cameron/Kelso
- Death cert of Matilda for details of who reported death
Struggling at this stage to think of other sources :-\
Monica
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there are loads of Cameron's on here
also if you go to surnames beginning with K
there are some Kelso's too
http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/GetAsset.aspx?id=fAA1ADYAMgAwAHwAfABGAGEAbABzAGUAfAB8ADAAfAA1
only reference to an Inn keeper I can see is a Donald Cameron
Elaine
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I cannot begin to tell how excited I am in finding out about nan's family and I also cant thank you all enough too. As I am STILL in hospital in Melbourne, Australia I cant try out the suggestions that you have both made for me. I still remain committed to unlocking dear old Ellen Mona Cameron. Her son, Alexander, my dad, thinks this is all a bit of a hoot (he is 87 years old so I have to humor him). I did notice with his visit today that he asked if I had heard from Rootschat people! Many, many thanks again. With all of this extra info I think I will have to make one overseas trip in my lifetime ; Great Briain or bust! :o ::)
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Heather
Just concentrate on getting well :) This is all something to keep your brain ticking!
One option that you could do now when you are up to it is perhaps to put a link on either the Cheshire or Lancashire boards (with a copy of the link to this post for background). There may be people locally who could help further. I'm London based, so no use to you at all ;D
Monica
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wiggo53 I am visiting Widnes library again on Friday 22nd May. I may have some news for you that should help. Fingers crossed.
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That sounds promising Nelbec :) Fingers crossed from me too!
Monica
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Hello hope you are feeling better. I have been to Widnes Cemetery and Widnes Library and found some things out I will let you know what I have found and what I think and see how we go. If I repeat myself I am sorry but I feel if I do the story then I can keep with the flow.
Ellen Cameron 22 spinster married Eric Ernest Priestly 24 bachelor 9th February 1918 at Chester Registry Office on special licence. Her fathers name on the certificate is DAVID CAMERON INNKEEPER. His father is HARRY PRIESTLY STORE KEEPER. Ellen and Eric both have addresses in Chester.
Eric's army papers were altered to change his next of kin from his father to ELLEN PRIESTLY of 16 MARGARET STREET WIDNES later an address in London and then Brisbane. As papers show when looking for ELLEN to send her ERIC'S medals.
On the 31st May 1918 there was an article in the Widnes Weekly News titled BROTHER AND SISTER ON ARMY SERVICE. It was about Private Alexander Cameron son of the late Mrs Cameron of 16 Margaret Street Widnes had been wounded and in hospital in Scotland. He had been in France for 16 months and 6 months ago was awarded the Military Medal. There is some information about him working at Widnes Foundry and attending St Marie's school?. His sister Mrs Ellen Priestly who has recently married an Australian soldier has worked for 15 months for the Navy and Army Canteen Board 9 months of which were spent in France. She also served as a Steward on The Spectator a ship of the Harrison Line. There is a picture of Alexander and Ellen in the article.
In late June of 1918 another article in the Widnes Weekly News about the funeral of an Australian soldier named Eric Ernest Priestly at Widnes Cemetery. In the report it states the chief mourners were Ellen Priestly (Wife) Mr W Cameron (Father-in-law) Alexander Cameron (Brother-in-law) and others. The funeral party was from 16 Margaret Street Widnes.
On my register of people buried in Widnes Cemetery I have found Mrs MATILDA CAMERON 40 years old of 16 Margaret Street Widnes who passed away and was buried in 8th January 1918 Plot Number 11R grave 2696. There is no report in the local paper of the funeral because of the war and shortage of paper so no details.
Mr William Cameron passed away 16th March 1954 Plot Number 12C grave 4644. There is a report ( and a photograph) in the local paper which states Mr William Cameron of 16 Margaret Street Widnes a native of Scotland aged 76 he was at one time employed by ICI and in later life at Widnes Foundry. Bearers were T.O,Connor, F. Cameron, H. Pountain, J.Smith, W.Smart, W.Lamb and about 20 mourners.
William and Matilda Cameron also had another Daughter named Matilda and she married John Henry Pountain of Widnes. She died 22nd February 1983 and she had 4 sons and 5 daughters, she is buried in Plot Number 17R grave number 5609 with her husband.
I cannot find any of this Cameron family in the 1901 or 1911 census of England and Wales and they must be on the Scottish census of which I do not have access, Sorry.
I believe you need to look on the Scottish site and look for,
1901 William Cameron Born 1876 age 25
Matilda Cameron Born 1878 age 23
Alexander Cameron Born 1894 age 7
1911 William Cameron Born 1876 age 35
Matilda Cameron Born 1878 age 33
Alexander Cameron Born 1894 age 17
Matilda Cameron Born 1906 age 5
I really hope this helps you and is the true story, but I have trawled through information for my family and found mistakes that are so simple. We do forget in those days they travelled the country for work and money indeed the travelled the world. Also education was not available to all.
If I can help anymore I will try my best It has been fun doing it but I have headbutted the wall a few times.
Nearly forgot Margaret Street in Widnes was back to back terraced house,s and is now a green field park with kids swings and slides, O how things change. My grandfather would not remember it today and yet he lived there for over 30 years in that street.
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I missed out the most important person the topic Ellen Cameron for the Scottish census SORRY.
1901 Ellen Cameron Born 1896 age 5
1911 Ellen Cameron Born 1896 age 15
Headbanging again.
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Nelbec
What a fantastic summary you have done :)
So there was a change of father's name for Ellen as we thought from what you have posted earlier with the reference father in law W(illiam) Cameron regarding Eric's funeral.
I do think that the marriage and 1890 - 1911 census entries we have for the Higgings family is Ellen's family, even more so now with your additional reference to a daughter Matilda who also shows in the Higgins household in 1911 at the right age. For this family we tick the boxes on father's first name, mother's full name and Alexander/Ellen/Matilda. Also from that 1911 entry we have William Cameron, right age, living with the Higgins family and showing as a relative born in Scotland.
I suppose one last check would be for those Cameron/Kelso births we found on FreeBmd. At a guess I would say that these at least would show father as William Cameron and Matilda Kelso and possible at Margaret Street given the District of the last birth.
But William was not Ellen's father, he would look to be from what we have David Higgins. As to what happened to David Higgins, not sure. Can't see easily see a marriage for William and Matilda so maybe a possibility that they didn't marry (if David Higgins had not died at this point perhaps?).
Great work Nelbec :)
Monica
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BIG gold stars to you both and then double it.I cannot thank you both enough for going to all of this trouble for me. Both explanations given by you certainly make a lot of sense and would explain why it has been so difficult finding nans birth certificate or register and the marriage certificate for Matilda and who ever else she partnered up with/ When I get home (Or, maybe that should be, if I get home from hospital I am going to endeavour to locate both of the forementioned articles.
I cannot believe how all encompassing this geneology business is ..after all, it is now 2 am and I am sitting up in my hospital bed doing this in the dark.
You may be pleased to know that I am going to follow my grandad's trail as well, which hopefully wont be so mysterious. The biggest problem therre is that for the past 5 generations, the senior male name has been Alexander Reid and yes, he was born in Scotland too! Many thanks again for all of your help. x x
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Just concentrate on getting better Heather :) You did make me laugh though with the idea of you on your laptop in your hospital bed at 2.00 am catching up!
Just one more thing now to give David Higgins his place in all of this. Parents show on the marriage entry to Matilda Kelso as Alexander Higgins and Mary McKendrick (or McKendry/ McKindry - lots of variants for this surname).
1. AGNES HIGGINS Birth: 30 SEP 1863 Old Monkland, Lanark
2. CATHERINE HIGGINS Birth: 09 MAR 1865 Old Monkland, Lanark
3. ALEXANDER HIGGINS Birth: 26 JUN 1866 Old Monkland, Lanark
4. DAVID HIGGIANS Birth:25 FEB 1870 Kilmacolm, Renfrew
5. HELEN HIGGINS Birth: 18 JUN 1872 Middle-East-West Parishes, Greenock, Renfrew
6. MARGARET HIGGINS Birth: 04 JAN 1874 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
Parents' marriage shows on 16 APR 1861 in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton.
Big family by 1881:
Alexander Higgins 42, Foreman Town Cleansing Depart, b. Insch Parish, Wigtonshire
Mary Higgins 43, b. Ireland
Catherine Higgins 16
Alexander Higgins 14
John Higgins 12
David Higgins 11, b. Kilmalcolm, Renfrewshire
Helen Higgins 8
Margaret Higgins7
James Higgins 5
William Higgins 3
Robert Cameron 21, son in law, general labourer, b. Girvan, Ayrshire....I wonder if he had a brother called William!
Mary Ann Cameron (Higgins) 20, daughter, b. Duntocher, Dumbartonshire
Address: 84 Drumfrochar Rd, Greenock Middle
Something to work from on this line :)
Monica
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nelbec have you got a link to the photo in your reply n0 29
william cameron was my great grand father and one off the poll bearers was my dad matilda was my grand mother
thanx
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I found the photograph in the Widnes library archive department. The Widnes Weekly News micro film for around March/April of 1954. I took a copy but it did not turn out good enough to copy again.
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thank you for your promt reply if you have any more info i would appreciate
and thnaks again
jim
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:D hi i am new to this but i have just been reading up on william & matilda cameron i think they where my great grandparents cos john henry and matilda where my grandparents i am one of there daughters daughters i would love to see more about there family's history hope i can help in some way thanks keep intouch
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nelbec have you got a link to the photo in your reply n0 29
william cameron was my great grand father and one off the poll bearers was my dad matilda was my grand mother
hi yer mine 2 but i know we related anyway x
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Hi Swino65 I agree we must be related because Matilda's elder sister Ellen was my grandmother. She passed away in October 1988 in Australia but I am really keen to follow her family tree right back to the beginning. Does that make us both cousins of Jimmy?
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hi matilda was my nan that would make you and us second cousins my mum and jimmy's mum are sisters my mums name is jean pountain and we live in widnes have only just started on this site but am keen to learn more hope we can help each other out thanks hope to hear from you soon
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Definitely! I am so pleased to have been able to have someone to contact who actually lives in England. There are a few things that I am wondering about and would like to contact you on your normal email address. Mine is (*) if you can send me a reply thru that channel.
I cant believe that I have found my second cousins! I am in Australia. So many questions . . . .
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There is an interesting thread here regarding Eric Priestley, I have photographed all (or 95%) of the war graves in Widnes Cemetery, and was surprised to find an Aussie buried there.
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10852
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Hi Englandphil
Yes, Eric Priestly married my Nan, Ellen Cameron in February 1918, Eric had been in the soldier's hospital recovering from wounds where he was nursed by Ellen. They only had two weeks together before he went back to the war. Sadly, In June of that year, Eric was shot and killed in action. There is an article in the Widnes Weekly News in March that tells the story of the funeral.
My nan later met my Grandad, Angus Alexander Reid and followed him out to Australia where they married in Bendigo on Jan 18th 1920. Eric was an absolute hero and deserved the medals. If you troll thru previous posts of mine you can read all about it. Ok?