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Title: National Archives Kew lookup request COMPLETED
Post by: ibbotson on Wednesday 15 April 09 08:20 BST (UK)
Is there any member going along to The National Archives at Kew to do some research would be willing to lookup the details of an article that I have found on A2A which I believe relates to my wife's family.

Details as follows

Piece details....BT31/11233/85809
Board of Trade:Companies Registration Office:Files of dissolved Companies.
No. of Company:85809;Bruce Green & Co Ltd.
Files of dissolved Companies Date:1905.

Kind regards
David
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 27 April 09 22:39 BST (UK)
Hi David

I've had a look at the file, there are 25 pages of documents (all legal types) relating to Bruce Green & Co Ltd.

Now I know what's there, what are you hoping to find out?

Dawn
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 28 April 09 08:18 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn

Firstly thank you very much for looking for me.

I am hoping these documents relate to my wife's family "de Woolfson". According to the 1911 census a company called Bruce Green & Co Ltd (optical or opticians) was owned by a Bruce Green de Woolfson. According to family in America the compony was formed between a Theodore Green de Woolfson, brother Simon and then son Bruce. In 1912 Bruce Green de Woolfson ran off to America with another women (hence the American family). He apparently arrived in America with a lot of money and It is believed he sold the business, pocketed the money and ran.

Any information confirming the company was an optical or opticians business  owned by the de Woolfson family, names, addresses. When and why the company was dissolved or sold and who by, and anything relating to "de Woolfson"

Kind regards
David
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 28 April 09 22:59 BST (UK)
Hi David

I only had time to briefly list the 25 documents making up this file.

I didn't have time to read all of them but I can cofirm:

Angus Newton Scott was appointed company secretary, Bruce Green, Herbert Arnold and Arthur Davis consented to act as Directors.

The name 'Bruce Green de Woolfson' does appear in the files, the company was an opticians.

The company was wound up voluntarily as a result of a resolution passed at an extraordinary agm in 1912.

A liquidator was appointed.

The file also contains amongst other papers:
Memorandum of Incorporation, Articles of Association, Certificate of Incorporation, Registered Office, Change of Situation of Registered Office, Summary of capital and shares 1906, 1911 and 1912.

Dawn
Dawn
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: ibbotson on Wednesday 29 April 09 13:15 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn

Once again thank you for your help on this matter.

Can you recall what was written in respect of Bruce Green de Woolfson?. Was he still part of the company at the time of the AGM in 1912. The reason I'm asking is that Bruce left England aboard the Lousitania bound for New York on 10th June 1911 with the other women, never to return to his English wife & family.

Sorry to push you.

Regards
David
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 29 April 09 21:43 BST (UK)
Hi David

I was doing this look-up during my lunch break, unfortunately I didn't have the time to make detailed notes. Sorry.

I will order the file again on a future visit.

Dawn
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: forester on Wednesday 29 April 09 22:15 BST (UK)
Hello David,

Not exactly what you are after, but there are two notices in the London Gazette, Issue 28673, pages 9725 and 9727.
Chairman of the company at the time they were wound up was E H Grimsdell.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/28673/pages/9725

Phil
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: liverpool annie on Wednesday 29 April 09 22:39 BST (UK)


Hi David .... long time no see !!  :D

I wonder why it was extraordinary ?? .... seems like a funny phrase to use doesn't it ??  :-\

Annie  :)
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: ibbotson on Thursday 30 April 09 17:53 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn

Many Thanks....really do appreciate your time and effort. Anything what is said about Bruce Green de Woolfson within the documents would be a great help.

Regards
David
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: ibbotson on Thursday 30 April 09 18:03 BST (UK)
Hi Phil

Thats great many thanks.

Hi Annie

Extraordinary!!! is the right word for Bruce Green de Woolfson. He left a wife and seven children when he did a bunk to America but still managed to have another seven children in America.

Kind regards
David

Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: ibbotson on Monday 06 July 09 07:38 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn

Hope you don't mind me asking but did you manage to find anymore time to have a look again at what was said about Bruce Green de woolfson in the document.

Regards
David
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 07 July 09 12:38 BST (UK)
Hi David

I've only been to Kew a couple of times since we last corresponded but didn't have enough time to order up the files and go and look.

As soon as work takes me there for a longer period of time (when I know I'll be there all day for 2 or 3 days) I'll have another look for you.

In the meantime, sorry I haven't been able to help again.

Dawn
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: ibbotson on Wednesday 08 July 09 07:04 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn

Thats fine...thank you for keeping an interest in my request.

All the best
David
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request
Post by: MH44 on Thursday 06 August 09 13:37 BST (UK)
Message for David Ibbotson - can you contact me please - I was a Bruce-Green before I married and am interested in the family

MH44
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request COMPLETED
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 27 October 10 11:32 BST (UK)
Hi David

I will be at Kew tomorrow, not for work as the records I was using have been removed on a permanent basis, do you still need this file copying?

Dawn
Title: Re: National Archives Kew lookup request COMPLETED
Post by: ibbotson on Wednesday 27 October 10 23:07 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn

Yes I still would like the copies.

Regards
David