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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Baird on Saturday 11 April 09 19:38 BST (UK)
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What was at 657 Edgefauld Road in 1931? I have a 19 year old single female died of Polio at this address. Usual Residence given on death certificate was in Dalmarnock Road. Search Engines give Barnhill Institute associated with this address. Was this still Barnhill Poorhouse at that time or was it by then a hospital ?
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There was a hospital attached to the Barnhill Hospital and it wasn't until 1945 that the hospital and poorhouse were transferred to a new authority prior to becoming part of the new National health Service - but according to the 1927 directory 657 Edgefauld Road was the official address of Barnhill Poorhouse.
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Thank you for that information.
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Does anyone know if this was still a poorhouse institution in 1960? I have a death taking place at this address then, but can't find a street directory from that era to see if it was still a Barnhill institution or not.
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https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Barony/...........
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https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Barony/...........
Thanks.......
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Foresthall as it became known as was still operating into the 1980's (run by Glasgow City Council) it was more of a care home/residential institution.
Although the closure process had begun in the early 1980's and residents were transferred to other places. I think the last residents left in the late 80's and the place was demolished. It is now a housing estate.
Added : https://www.theglasgowstory.com/images/TGSE00900.jpg a photograph from the 1970's
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Foresthall as it became known as was still operating into the 1980's (run by Glasgow City Council) it was more of a care home/residential institution.
Added : https://www.theglasgowstory.com/images/TGSE00900.jpg a photograph from the 1970's
Thanks for the extra details. Would seeing this location as a place of death in the 1960s carry the same significance as if it were the 1930s? i.e. was it the modern equivalent to a poor law hospital? The person I am researching was deemed a "pauper" earlier in life and had many interactions with the poor relief board and institutions but I don't want to jump to conclusions as to the meaning of their place of death.
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I don't believe that by the 1960's the workhouse stigma would have still been applicable certainly not in the same manner it would have been in its original role.
I'm not sure when the transition from Workhouse to Residential Care Centre began but it probably had a number of different phases.
My first dealings with the place were around 1980 and by then it was a full time Care Centre and many of the residents had been living there for 15 to 20 years - many of them had mental health problems but others had basically been homeless through drink or drug problems and had been given refuge there, others just remembered it as their home.
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I read on another forum a post from an ambulance driver that said elderly people still remembered it as Barnhill, and were terrified when they were taken there. Sounds like the reputation stuck even if it was no longer true.
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Cunbernauld News 1975
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The Scotsman 1965
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I read on another forum a post from an ambulance driver that said elderly people still remembered it as Barnhill, and were terrified when they were taken there. Sounds like the reputation stuck even if it was no longer true.
Sadly very true. I remember speaking to one elderly woman who was being taken to the local hospital by ambulance. She became really upset and was refusing to go when she found out she was being taken to the Annexe building which many decades earlier had been the Poorhouse unit
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I wonder if anyone can help? On the 1921 Census for Scotland my Gt-Grandmother Mary Gorman was living at 19 Rosemount Street, Glasgow, and she was listed as a 'W' widow, my GT-Grandfather was a Shoemaker (Journeyman) and Labourer and was not listed on the same census nor was he on the 1911 census, but she was recorded as being married on the 1911 one. Therefore, I think between 1911 & 21 she either kicked him out or he left her as he definitely died in 1929, and address at the time of death was a Lodging house on Main Street, Govan. On searching the 1921 census for him I found a name, age and area match for him, as a 'Patient' in Barnhill, and I think it is him, and would really like to get more information? Unfortunately, I live in Reading, England, and can't get up to Glasgow? The details are: 1921 census: John Gorman, age 62, Garngadhill, ref 644/5 49/ 25 - It would be great if someone could help with this :)
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Here's a bit more info about Barnhill poorhouse. A distant relative of mine was assistant governor there in the 1870s.
https://www.glasgowlife.org.uk/libraries/family-history/stories-and-blogs-from-the-mitchell/times-past-blogs/barnhill-poorhouse-times-past
Harry
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From an article in The Herald -
"Originally discipline at Barnhill was strict with able-bodied men required to make up 350 bundles of firewood a day, or break five hundredweight of stone in order to earn their keep.Those who failed to make the target were put on a bread and water diet instead."
Harry