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Title: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: berlor on Saturday 11 April 09 12:51 BST (UK)
Hi, I am a new member as of today. I live in Australia in the far north of tropical Queensland, an area of big rains and cyclones, otherwise it is paradise.

I am searching for Angus Beaton. The 1851 Scotland census shows an estimated birth for Angus of 1796 and living in Parish of Kilninian and Kilmore, County Argyll and address Dervaig. Angus married Mary Beaton, date unknown. The birth place on the census for Angus is shown as Morvern, Argyllshire. The 1851 census indicates that children of Angus and Mary were Christy, Donald, Mary jnr and Mazy. The family emigrated to Australia from Liverpool on 28 August 1852 and arrived in Queensland in Dec 1852. Mary Beaton's parents were Donald Beaton and Rachel Paterson.

Does anyone have any idea where I might find his birth and marriage.


Regards
Berlor


Title: Re: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 11 April 09 14:16 BST (UK)
Hi

There is this:  IGI Extracted marriage:
Angus BEATON and Mary BEATON - 9 Oct 1827 Glasgow, Lanarkshire

For Ref:
1851: Dervaig  - Kilninian and Kilmore, Argyllshire
Angus BEATON 55, b Morvern, Argyllshire , Boat Builder
Wife: Mary BEATON 45, b Kilmore Argyllshire
CHILDREN:
Donald BEATON 16, b Morvern, Argyllshire
Christy BEATON 10, b Isle of Skye, Inverness Shire
Mary BEATON 8, b Isle of Skye, Inverness Shire
Mazy??  BEATON 2, Ardnamurchan, Argyllshire

I'm a bit dubious of the name "Mazy". Scotland's people appear to index her as "Mary", as far as I can work out on a restricted search. If so, then I might wonder if she is actually a grandaughter - perhaps illigitimate - since they already have an 8 yr old  daughter named Mary. Did "Mazy"  go to Australia with them?

The 1841 shows another, elder, daughter:
1841:Island of Scalpa(y), Strath,  Inverness-shire
Angus BEATON 40, Carpenter - N
Mary BEATON 30,  - N
Marion BEATON  12 - N
Donald BEATON 6 - N
Christina BEATON   6mths - Y

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: berlor on Sunday 12 April 09 02:30 BST (UK)
Hi Ambly

There is quite a trail of names with Angus & Mary and I have listed below names as they appear in documents.

The passenger list for the family leaving Liverpool on 28 Aug 1852 aboard the MARMION bound for Moreton Bay Queensland.

Angus & Mary
Donald Beaton
Christy Beaton
Mizee Beaton
Neil Beaton
Sally Beaton
An Alexander Beaton left Liverpool on 16 June 1855 aboard the SWITZERLAND bound for Adelaide South Australia.

The arrival record of the Beatons on the MARMION was in December 1852, which came from the Victorian Public Records Office. Not sure why this record is in Victorian records as Moreton Bay is in Queensland, maybe that was head office at the time. Listed as arriving in Australia are

Angus & Mary
Maria Beaton - 22 years
Donald Beaton - 17 years
Christie Beaton - 11 years
Mary Beaton - 9 years
Neil Beaton - 6 years
Margery Beaton - 4 years

Mary Beaton died on 1 September 1895 at Hanilton Victoria and listed on her death registration as issue are

Marion - 66 years
John - deceased
Alexander - deceased
Donald - 59 years
Mary - deceased
Christina - 54 years
Mary - 52 years
Neil - 49 years
Marjory - 47 years

As each document was completed through time more names seemed to come to light.

The birth of Angus Beaton and his parents has me at a dead end. Any help you may be able to give about Angus would be much appreciated.

Regards
Berlor
Title: Re: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 13 April 09 02:21 BST (UK)
Hi Berlor

Not sure if you have the son missing of the 1851 Census with the rest of the family:


1851: Dervaig, Kilninian and Kilmore , Argyllshire

Head: Donald BEATON 65, Crofter (1 1/4 Acres) , b Morvern, Argyllshire
Sister: Christina BEATON 70, b Morvern, Argyllshire
Nephew: Niel BEATON 5, b Ardnamurchan, Argyllshire

Perhaps you already have this and know which side Neil's BEATON parents these siblings Donald and Christina belong to?

Also found this web site:
http://www.mullgenealogy.co.uk/cr_deaths.htm

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: manofmull on Thursday 23 February 17 13:45 GMT (UK)
The 1851 Census of young Neil with much older aunt & uncle gives the answer as to who Angus' parents are. The aunt/uncle have to belong to Angus' side due to age, and indeed they do. The best Mull website is MullFamilies  http://www.mullfamilies.co.uk/  and that site has the answer (aunt/uncle Christina/Donald both died 1862 Dervaig). I suspect that Angus was born closer to 1792 ** OR ** he may have actually been a grandson brought up as a son (this was quite common). Angus' parents were married 1768 Kilninian parish, Mull
Title: Re: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: argyllshiregirl on Friday 24 February 17 20:03 GMT (UK)
That unusual name is probably Mysie (or Maisie). My great grandmother's youngest sister, born about 1902 in Argyll, was Mysie McGregor. I am not sure where that came from in my family, or where it originates at all.
Title: Re: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 24 February 17 22:22 GMT (UK)
Some suggestions on the name www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=mysie

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Birth of Angus Beaton-Argyllshire
Post by: manofmull on Tuesday 01 July 25 16:55 BST (UK)
I've never seen Maisie (aka Mysie) used for Margaret. It's much more common for Mary and Marjory

https://mullfamilies.co.uk/