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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: GTiRBri on Saturday 11 April 09 08:08 BST (UK)
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I have a birth certificate for Charles Riley
born 8 oct 1858 in Bull St, West Bromwich
Parents Sarah Pierson, James William Riley
I am struggling to find any records, can anyone help? Anything at all would be greatly appreciated
thanks Brian
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Hi Brian
I can see one in 1881 in Manchester married to Elizabeth and with a 14 year old brother Thomas, would this be the right person?
DebbieG
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Hi both :)
It seems James and Sarah were married in 1854 at Dudley St Thomas.
GRO reference: Mar 1854 6c 97
James William Riley - Sarah Pearson
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Brian
What occupation does it give for James William on the birth certificate please?
There is this one in West Bromich in 1861
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James W Riley 28 head boiler maker and beer seller born Brierly Hill Staffs
Julia Riley 4 dau
James Riley 55 father
Sarah Riley 57 mother
Mary Weston 16 general serv
the emumeration isn't clear if he is married or not and there is no wife present
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I think this is the same man in 1871 and he is married to a Sarah
1871 West Bromich
James William Riley 37 erector of Ironwork born Brierly hill
Sarah Riley 34 born Hill top staffs
Lizzie Riley 10 born west brom
James Norah Riley 8 born chester
Eva Riley 5 born south wales
Rebecca Riley 9 months born west brom
DebbieG
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Hi Debbie
his occupation on the cert is Boiler maker, which his son and grandson also were, thanks so very much for your help
Bri
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Looks like we are on the right track then - in 1871 daughter Julia is still with her now widowed grandmother
1871
Sarah Riley 67
Sarah L Riley gd 16
Julia Riley gd 14
Ellen Riley gd 4
Shame I can't find Charles with the family (yet :))
DebbieG
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It looks like James William died beofre 1881 - here are Sarah and the remaining offspring in 1881 and 1891
1881
Sarah Riley 43
Elizabeth A. Riley 20
Eva Riley 16 born penmarsh south wales
Rebecca Riley 10
Noah Riley 7
Albert Wm. Riley 4
1891
Sarah Riley 54
Rebecca Riley 20
Noah Riley 17
Albert W Riley 15
Debbie
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OK - I have a possible now ;D
I think this is Sarah before her marriage in 1851 - there are a couple of possibles, but she did name one of her sons Noah (you would need certificates to prove some of this)
1851
Noah Pearson 41 miner born Worcs hanbury
Sarah Pearson 40
Sarah Pearson 15
Cornelius Pearson 11 born staffs rowley regis
Elizabeth Pearson 6
Noah and family in 1861
1861
Noah Pearson 51 born Dudley
Sarah Pearson 50
Pheobe Pearson 22
Elizabeth Pearson 16
James Pearson 7
Lauah L Pearson 5
The family in 1871
1871
Noah Pearson 62
Sarah Pearson 60
James Pearson 17
Charles Pearson gson 12 born West Brom
Now although it gives Charles as Pearson the birth year and place are right for him to be Charles Riley their grandson.
What do you think?
:)
DebbieG
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I agree with you Debbie that is why I have probably been hitting a brick wall as I always searched for Charles Riley. Thank you so very much.
Bri