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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: fred111 on Friday 10 April 09 22:57 BST (UK)
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Hi there,
Does anyone have any information about Bullers Green?
I think it may have been a village which is now part of Morpeth.
A famous millwright, John Rastrick was born in Bullers Green in 1780.
My ancestor, James Summerville was born in Morpeth in 1796, but moved to Newcastle before 1841.
According to later censuses, some Summervilles lived in Bullers Green, so it is possible that James lived or worked in Bullers Green.
Does anyone know if there is any evidence that there were any mills in the Bullers Green area?
Any information about mills in Bullers Green or the Morpeth area as a whole would be most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Liz
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Hi Liz,
Interesting article here, and if you click on 'older pages' at the bottom of the article, you can then click on another article about an old mill
http://www.morpethherald.co.uk/CustomPages/CustomPage.aspx?PageID=34373§ionID=6262
Barbara
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Have a look at this map on the Northumberland Communities site http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/008528FS.htm and you can see the location of Bullers Green in the north-western corner, at the northern end of Silver Street.
This 1860 map on the same site http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005116FS.htm indicates the presence of a 'Steam Mill (Corn)' close by.
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Thats so interesting, thank you both.
I have a friend who researches, photographs, writes & gives talks about old mills,.
He will be interested too.
The famous millwright, John Rastrick lived in Newgate St - at 136. I wonder if it is still there and near the Dyers Cottage mentioned in the article.
Many thanks again
Liz
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Hi Fred
Morpeth is my home town and Buller's Green is still at the top end of Newgate Street on the road out north to Alnwick.
Newgate Street stretches away from the town centre, the number suggests this would be somewhere up towards Buller Green.
I can't think of any mills that were up that end of the town, there is certainly an old mill next to the river in the centre of town 'Oliver's Mill' - now converted like many old buildings into Apartments.
Hope this helps
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Hi Morpethian :)
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
I am really interested in Morpeth in general as my Purdys are from there and Bullers Green is the address of them on 1841 Census. ( they were market gardeners)
In 1851 they were at 12 Newgate Street.
I just wondered if 12 still exists ???
Myg/g/grandfather James was born there 1828 and ended up in NZ via Australia.
Cheers,
Trish
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There is still a 12 Newgate Street, accoding the the Post Office. http://www.rootschat.com/links/06az/
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Thankyou JenB :)
You are an angel :)
Trish
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Sorry that the link I gave (which included the address and a map) has time-expired. try this one to search the address. http://postcode.royalmail.com/portal/rm/postcodefinder?catId=400145
A few interesting old pictures here http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/Morpeth_C4.htm
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Thanks, I hadnt actually checked it yet as I was off making a cup of tea etc ;D
trish
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Hi Trish
The lower numbers of Newgate Street are business units, I believe 12 is now an Italian restaurant but I can double check for you over the weekend. When you look at the premises most of the shops look as though they have/had living quarters above them.
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Hi,
Thank you so much. I would really appreciate any info you can provide :)
Cheers,
Trish
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Hi Fred,
I just realised by your dates that my ancestors and yours would have been neighbours/had kids that played together and/or were friends :)
Thomas Purdy was born 1796 and his parents were there before that ;) and also the Reays.
Trish
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A wee bit of TRIVIA on Newgate St, Morpeth.
Odd house numbers are riverside. Even numbers are on east side of street.
Today, 94 Newgate St houses the Register Office ( Now entitled "Northumberland Central" Registration District.)
I think these premises once housed the Girls Grammar school. Am not sure cos I went to boys school up Cottingwood Lane, and never the twain were to meet !
12 Newgate St would have been some sort of commercial premises e.g. shop
Trade Directories.
Piggot's, 1834 edition lists Thomas Purdy twice under Gardeners and Seedsmen, once at Bullers Green, once at Newgate St.
( Source "Printed Material" section in the Morpeth Community of
communities.northumberland.gov.uk)
Michael Dixon
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Cont.,,,
John Purdy also in Pigot's 1834 under Gardeners & Seedsmen.
Also Thomas Purdy under Miscellaneous section, at Bridge End.
Michael
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Thanks Michael :),
An interesting family. James ( my direct line) a blacksmith. Most of the others market gardeners. Son of Thomas- George had 2 sons who became Doctors and were both Director Generals of Medical Services WW1 in N.Z and Australia.
Google; John Smith Purdy, an interesting read :D
Trish
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Jen, I love the photos of Old Morpeth.
Trish, Fascinating our acestors were neighbours!
You never know what will turn up on Rootschat.
Australia is a long way away from Wales, where I am now, though.
I still miss the North East of England were I was born and grew up.
They are special people, hardy and very sociable and friendly.
Michael, you are always a fund of information.
What an interest a chance enquiry has led to :)
Liz
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Hi Liz (fred111)
I am currently living at 136 Newgate St.
It is a 2 bed terrace and I have recently been thinking about looking into its history.
If I can work out how I will take and try and attach a photo.
Mick
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Hey, Maxdog, welcome to Rootschat.
How fascinating!
If you Google John Rastrick you will find a lot about him.
Thanks for the offer, I'd love to see your house.
Liz.
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Trish,
I don't know if this helps but here is #11 Newgate street. # 12 would be to the left of it
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=12+Newgate+Street,+Morpeth,+United+Kingdom&aq=2&sll=36.375342,-90.502354&sspn=20.608639,46.538086&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=12+Newgate+St,+Morpeth+NE61+1,+United+Kingdom&ll=55.166969,-1.690757&spn=0.005699,0.017595&z=16&layer=c&cbll=55.166853,-1.690758&panoid=2TtvINm05Vr4wM3lvAJRYw&cbp=12,252.32,,0,-12.67
Regards
Gary
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A wee bit of TRIVIA on Newgate St, Morpeth.
Odd house numbers are riverside. Even numbers are on east side of street.
Today, 94 Newgate St houses the Register Office ( Now entitled "Northumberland Central" Registration District.)
I think these premises once housed the Girls Grammar school. Am not sure cos I went to boys school up Cottingwood Lane, and never the twain were to meet !
12 Newgate St would have been some sort of commercial premises e.g. shop
Trade Directories.
Piggot's, 1834 edition lists Thomas Purdy twice under Gardeners and Seedsmen, once at Bullers Green, once at Newgate St.
( Source "Printed Material" section in the Morpeth Community of
communities.northumberland.gov.uk)
Michael Dixon
A little more trivia or update some may find useful. The register office has moved or is in the process of moving from this address to the Town Hall, in the centre of Morpeth. Downside is, seemingly you can't just walk in now (after the move) you have to phone for an appointment. Progress that.
Robert.
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Between 1859 and 1869, the building at 94 Newgate Street was the home of Joseph Crawhall and his family. It was then 100 Newgate Street. I found a painting by Crawhall of what he called 'Wansbeck House' (I don't know if this was its official name!) whilst searching through the Crawhall archives at Newcastle University library.