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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: diedraebarb on Friday 10 April 09 12:54 BST (UK)
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Hi there!
Is there anyway i can find out details of a marriage certificate without having to order it? I am looking for James Barbour who married Jessie Weir in Krugersdorp on 12 September 1907........
I have tried to find James on the passenger lists as he is from Scotland, but without any idea as to when he arrived i have had no luck. I do know that he left SA in 1908 as His son was born in scotland in that year.
Any help would be appriciated.
Thank You !
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Hi again Diedraebarb
Have you thought of starting a new thread in RootsChat, Scotland, Lanarkshire? ???
My suggestion is that you start the thread there, as Glasgow which is in Lanarkshire, Scotland, was so often used as an embarkation point for Scottish emigrants to South Africa.
Head it something like, "Look up please, JAMES BARBOUR, Scotland-South Africa?
Personally, I've received such amazing and kind help from all folk in RootsChat, and can vouch that in my thread in Peeble-Shire, Scotland, the help has been amazing! ;D
Do, please let me know how you get on, and if you want to message me in Personal Messages, please do.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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Hi Danchalsyn
Thanks for the advice. I will do so . I am vey happy with roots chat as i have been given some great advice.
I will let you know how i get on.
Regards
Dee
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Unfortunately he has a common name for Scotland and there is no way for Scottish Rootschatters to help without more information. All that is known about James is his year of marriage. It would be helpful if his marriage certificate gave his age and parents names.
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Hi Dee
Yes, please let me know, I'm very interested in both your threads! 8)
And, good, good luck......... ;D
Cheers for now and vasbyt
Danchaslyn
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Hi Sancti and Dieraebarb
Unfortunately he has a common name for Scotland and there is no way for Scottish Rootschatters to help without more information. All that is known about James is his year of marriage. It would be helpful if his marriage certificate gave his age and parents names.
I beg to differ, Dee. Try my suggestion, finding him on shipping lists for someone well versed in that expertise, would not be difficult. ;D Also, Scottish Rootschatters amazingly helpful! :D
Please don't be discouraged. I currently live in Scotland, myself, have had decades of association with the country and I've never found Barbour to be a common name here, haven't ever known of one personally here, but, strangely, did know of a Barbour family or two, or three, in Kloof, South Africa! ::)
You know yourself, its not difficult to work out a rough age for him, and a rough year for his travelling.......
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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On SP there are approx. 16 births for James Barbour in Renfrewshire alone between 1870 and 1890 with no way of confirming the right one without at least one parent name.
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http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/GetAsset.aspx?id=fAA1ADYAMQA4AHwAfABGAGEAbABzAGUAfAB8ADAAfAA1
the marriage is on here
Jessie's name is Jennie and her Fathers name is George Weir
Elaine
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Great find Elaine
James Barbour, formerly of Greenock, to Jennie 2nd daughter of George Weir, New Lanark, at
6 Dingaan Street, Krugersdorp, Transvaal, on 12th Sept 1906 (Greenock Telegraph 7.10.1906
Unfortunately we still don't have an age for him
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closest two on LDS are
James Barbour born 20/10/1873 Greenock
James Barbour (father)
Sarah Brown (mother)
and this one
James Callander Barbour born 6/6/1874 Greenock
William Barbour (father)
Jessie Callander (mother)
I dont know which one diedraebarb has already followed
there are another few born 1860's but they may be a bit early
Elaine
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Assuming he was actually born in Greenock we have...
1873 BARBOUR JAMES M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW
1876 BARBOUR JAMES M GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW
1878 BARBOUR JAMES M GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW
1874 BARBOUR JAMES CALLENDER M GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW
1871 BARBOUR JAMES LINDSAY K M GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW
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There is only one possible birth on SP for his wife
jessie Weir 1862 Lanark/Lanark
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Ooohhhh, well done, Elaine447 and Sancti ;D ;D
I knew you could do it! You aren't veteran RootsChatters for nothing. ;)
Diedraebarb, that surely has got you off to a good start. Wait until someone helps you with your passenger shipping lists and your thread will fly........................... 8) ???
Perhaps someone will help you find the son now? James Barbour's son, b. Scotland, 1908?
cheers
Danchaslyn
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Hi There
I would like to thank all of you for all the help you have given me. My mind is going round and round with excitement. ;D
I have followed up the lead with regards to James Barbour and Sarah Brown, Their son James Barbour marries a Jean Wood Johnston in 1900 and they have a daughter Margaret in the same year.
I will definetly follow up all the other that you have kindly listed.
A big thank you for the marriage passage that was found. I have however one question on the original birth certificate of James Barbour born 1908 it said that James and Jessie got married in 1907, why did they sometimes get the years wrong? :)
Once again thank you to all.
Regards
Diedrae
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diedrae
did James and Jessie have other children
just wondering if they may have followed the traditional naming pattern
if there were more children you may be able to narrow it down a bit
Elaine
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The James Callander Barbour
isn't the right one either he died in infancy 1874
Elaine
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Hi Elaine
They did have 2 other boys named George and Robert but both of them were born in South Africa.
I know that Robert did not have any children and George had 2. They were named George and Robert.
James was the oldest, and he was born in Wishaw, Lanarkshire. He had 2 children a daughter and a son. His son is my father in law. I have asked my Father in law and his cousins if they have any idea when their grandfather James was born and none of them seem to know.
Cheers
Diedrae
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Hi diedrae
Naming Pattern
James probably called after his father and paternal grandfather
George after his maternal grandfather
Robert possibly called after a paternal uncle
I dont think Jessie is the one born 1862
as that would have made her 44
and although not impossible I think it may be a bit late for a first marriage
and a bit late for starting a family
will see if I find any Robert Barbour's connected to James
Elaine