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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: claypit on Wednesday 08 April 09 00:09 BST (UK)
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I'm trying to find the parents of my great great grand father William Paulucci(I think thats how you spell it) born about 1830-31 in Leicestershire England can anyone help please.
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Just in case you find a connection later - I'll post these details while I've got them
1851 census for Sutton Bonnington Leicestershire
Peter Paulucci 91 shopkeeper (pauper) b Italy
Hannah 70 b Duffield Derbyshire
HO107 Piece 2086 Folio 31 Page 11
Who did William marry and when?
A copy of his marriage cert will give his fathers name
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And this 1851 for Bourne Lincolnshire - all children b Bourne
John Palucci 46 b Newark Notts journeyman brickmaker
Frances 40 b Burton Leics
Mary A 9
John 5
Thomas 2
HO107 Piece 2095 Folio 442 Page 43
Marriages September qtr 1842
GARRATT Frances Leicester 15 114
PALUCCI John Leicester 15 114
PAULUCCI John Leicester 15 114
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The only William Paulucci I can find in 1851 was b Sutton Bonington Notts in 1826
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William married a Sarah Nott but I don't know when I got her name off their daughter Emma Jane's birth certificate
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When and where was Emma born
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emma was born 1861 in west brom died in 1940 at killamarsh derbyshire
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Do you have the family on any census,I can't see Emma in 61,71 or 81 ???
Carol
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However I have found William in 1841-mistranscribed as Paulenci!
John Paulucci 39 brickman not born in county of Leicester
Frances 30 yes born in Leics
William 13 also brickman and also born in Leics
Living in Thorney? Fields,Kirby Muxloe, Leics.
HO107/600 book 22 folio 8 page 9
Carol
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And in 1851.....mistranscribed as Palucci
At Ferraby Cottages,North Fields,Bourne Lincs
John Paulucci head 46 brickmaker journeyman b Newark Nottingham
Frances wife 40 b Burton Leics
Mary A dau 9 b Bourne
John son 5 b Bourne
Thomas son 2 b Bourne
HO107/2095 folio 442 page 43
Carol
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There is a public tree on Ancestry" The Hayes Family" owner id-hayeszt, with William Paulucci in it might be worth checking it out they seem to have done a lot of research on the family,However they have his parents down as Peter Paulucci born 1792 Everton,Newark on Trent,Notts Died 1867 Sheffield and Ester 1791-1861.So you need to contact them see if theyve veried this info.
Welsh Lady
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Dad John Paulucci is on the IGI, baptised Newark upon Trent, Notts on 23 SEP 1799
Parents Peter Paulucci and Lydia.
There's also a Peter with same parents baptised same place 02 APR 1792
Carol
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Hi Carole thanks for your help sorry I haven't answered sooner, been working, looking at the 1841 census that you've given me they could be the parents of the William Paulucci that I have although I can't see that it is the same John and Frances that married in 1842,because William was born about 1830ish,I did find William on the 1861 census with his wife and some of their children Emma wouldn't have been on because she wasn't born until August 1861 and the census were usually taken round about end of March or the beginning of April except in 1841when they were taken in June,the only other census I found with William and Sarah and their youngest son on was 1891,but by then Emma was married to Albert Shepherd in 1879 so she was on the 1881 census with him as Emma Shepherd
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Hello,
My GGgreat Granddad was William (1828). His daughter Sarah (c1859, West Brom. my ggreat grandma) would be claypits' sister.
Sarah married John Hughes in Sheffield before moving to Killamarsh (where he grew up)... the majority of the Paulucci family seem to have moved there too. Later Sarah moved to Scarcliffe, derbyshire as did some of her brothers and sisters. I have been told by my g aunt that 'oo she was a nasty woman' always agitating.
As regards William i notice in the 1881 census the family is listed as the Johnsons.. a clue to his fathers identity John Paulucci (1899). until about a month ago I had presumed his Father was Peter (1792) but this clue gave it away. Paulucci would have been a bit of a moth full to victorian barnsley so perhaps that explains the name change.
Has anyone got any Paulucci photos?? I only have one as far back as Sarah (1859). They can be seen on my ancestry account if anyone is interested.
Ta, Tom.
p.s I recently acquired a marriage and death certificate for Peter Paulucci (c1762) it would seem his father was a farmer in Italy name of Benjamin (or the Italian equivalent)... Peters cause of death is listed as 'old age' unsurprising I suppose.
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sorry john paulucci 1799
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Hello
It does seem that we have the same family, I too have Sarah in my tree as Emma Jane's sister and I have John as William's father but I just guessed the date at about 1804 thankyou for confirming it as 1799.The spelling of the name is very confusing it throws you off the scent of finding the info you are after because on 3 different certificates with Emma Jane's name on it is spelt 3 different ways on her Birth Cert it was spelt Pellucy, on her Marriage Cert it was Pelucie and on on her son William's (my grandad)it was spelt Pelusy.
I wish I could help you with some photos but the only photo I've got in connection to my Great Grandma is 1 of her grave taken in St Giles Church Cemetery Killamarsh if that is any good to you ,I would love to see the photo of Sarah but I'm afraid I'm not a paid member of Ancestry,the only other way would be to swap e-mail addresses.
Was Peter Paulucci b.1762 John's father?
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yes Pietro Paulucci of York (where he first arrived in England during his late teens) married Lydia Rowbothom of Newark in 1783 (she was born in Leicester, her father was a William also). John 1799 was their last child (that I can find anyway). There is talk that Pietro (Peter) was involved in building works to the York minster (how true this is I do not know). He was also listed as a merchant in York, this is probably how he found himself in the country. Peter died age about 95 years in Sutton Bonnington and married his third wife aged about 80.
As regards the Paulucci surname Ive had Palucie as well but also Palivil which is nowhere near. This last one was particularly difficult... my great uncle believed that there had been Italians in the family but we did not know where or what their name was so it has taken me two years to make the Paulucci connection. Not only does their name change but so does the location (many of the Pauluccis did not know where they were born). One useful link is that much of the extended Paulucci family were brickmakers.
Anyway I should be able to invite you to join my tree on ancestry.co.uk as a guest if it would be possible to have your email mine is, somethingreallyrandom_2@hotmail.com and yes any images would be welcome as most of my research is internet based or from record offices.
Tom
P.s My great Grandma Emma Hayes nee Hughes was named after her mothers sister Emma Jane Paulucci your ancestor.
This should be more clear from viewing the tree itself... I tend to confuse people otherwise.
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Hi,
I am also trying to track down William Paulucci Helen/Ellen ( helen on marriage cert) but on actual recrods Ellen married my great grandfather Henry Hunter in Solihull, Worcester in 1864. Emma was the witness. His Occ. was a Agent. I found William on the 1851 census with Jane wife, children Ellen, Emma, William Samuel and Thomas Lewis. Father William born in Sutton Bonnington, Notts. I then found him on the IGI , chrisened 26th april, 1815 at Sutton Bonnington, Father James , Mother Elizabeth. But nothing back from there. Does anyone have any other info on him and his family?
I am now living in Australia so a little hard to do to much research from here!! Cheers, Roz
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Hi Roz are you a member of Genes Reunited as my wife has done the family tree on there and she has quite a lot of info on there about my relatives the Paulucci's.If you are not would you like to let me have your e-mail address and she will get you all the names and dates together and send them to you.
Claypit
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Hi,
No, I'm not a member, as I did the family tree many years ago,mainly the Hunter side, and have just had a great aunt in England contact me who is doing the Paulucci side of the family so I dug out all my old records, she has just sent me a wonderful copy of a letter from William Pauucci dated 1870 , a bit like a will before he set sale for Canada leaving his properties to his three children, Helen, Emma and William! in case of shipwreck!!
My email address is rozmarsh2@bigpond.com
I would love to hear anything , if you would like a copy of this letter let me know your email address and will send it to you!
Many thanks, Roz
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I am descended from Pietro Paulucci, who came to York in England and was married in 1783 to Lydia Robotham, he then remarried another twice. I live near York and made enquiries about his connections with York Minster but they had no records of him, I am soon going to visit The Borthwick Institute to see if they can help. Pietro's father was called Benjamin and I believe he was a farmer but cannot say for definite. If anyone else is connected with the Paulucci family I am happy to share my research and my e mail address is inejenn@hotmail.com Incidentally, my grandma's maiden name was Paulucci and she always pronounced it pallucy with a soft "c".