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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: appletree on Tuesday 07 April 09 22:48 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone
I'am hoping someone out there can help me, i'am looking for information on the Yelding family.
My gt grandfathers name was John Yelding he was married to Priscilla Lee, they married in 1900 surname spelt wrong (Yealding).
Yohn Yelding was born about 1864 in ramsgate this information came from the 1911 cencus, but that is all I know so far, I would like to know who he's parents were and if he had any brothers and sisters any information would be a help thank you . :)
APPLETREE :)
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Hi
This is a possibility for him but you really need a copy of his marriage cert to confirm his fathers name
1891 census for Ringmer Sussex - address is just "Camp and no relationship is shown between the Yeldings. They are all shown as single
William Yelding 55 traveller b Dover
John Yelding 28 b Dover
Thomas Yelding 25 b Dover
James Yelding 21 b Chatham
Henry Yelding 17 b Chatham
RG12 Piece 796 Folio 46 Page 19
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Hello, I think CaroleW's advice is right ........... get a copy of his marriage certificate and confirm his father's name.
If he is a circus Yelding, then I can give you the entries from John Turner's books.
John Yelding Jnr was the son of John Yelding (d.9 July 1892) and Laura Julian (daughter of John Julian of Julian's circus, she died 1918)
This John jnr had 9 children and a fine line of circus performers they all were. What is your Grandfather's name?
very best
Jim
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Hi
I have looked at his marrage cert it looks like his fathers name was Mark Yelding rank or profession of father is listed as a hawker.
I do not think that they were circus gypsies but I can't be sure.
My gt grandfathers name was John Yelding born about 1864 died in 1928 aged 68 at swanley junction.
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I'm pretty sure this is John & Priscilla in 1891 (to save others looking) http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,353148.msg2417893.html#msg2417893
There is a possible baptism in the parish registers for Hastingleigh, Kent ie. John Eldon (Hilden?) BAKER son of Mark & Jemima see http://www.hastingleigh.com/hast-parish-baptism-part2.html - also a sister Rose baptised 1861
Casalguidi :)
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Hi Casalguidi
Thank you for your information, do you know any more about Mark and Jemima Hilden. I have not been able to find anything about them so not sure if they are my family .
Thank you once again Appletree
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I spotted this family but couldn't immediately see anything to tie them in conclusively :-\
1891 - caravan, Rose Garden, Eltham, Kent
George YELDING head mar 33? cutler b.Canterbury Kent
Jemima wife 53 b.Maidstone Kent
Rebecca dau 14 b.Bexley Heath Kent
Harriett MILLS grandau 13 b.Bexley Heath Kent
Thomas gson 10? b.Bexley Heath Kent
RG12/516 folio 99 page 20
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Casalguidi :)
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Hi
I have looked at his marrage cert it looks like his fathers name was Mark Yelding rank or profession of father is listed as a hawker.
I do not think that they were circus gypsies but I can't be sure.
My gt grandfathers name was John Yelding born about 1864 died in 1928 aged 68 at swanley junction.
I used to lived in Australia i am a Romany Gypsy there is a British Romany Family named YELDING.
I will see what i can find out for you.
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Hi Gypsy123
The Yelding in Australia is my mum's oldest brother, she has not seen him for nearly 30 years she also doesnot have a address for him due to his travlling when he first went to Ausralia, if you could help with a Address for him I will give you my email address so you could past it on to him so he can contact me .
Thank you Appletree
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Hi there,
a small world, if you give me you Address i will give it to my sister as she is in contact with them.
Regards
Gypsy123
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yo i know this is a mega late message, but i found this when i got curious about my surname.... Im George Yelding, raised in swanley (oh yes) but now in liverpool doing university.
I just thought i would give ye the heads up......
once again very sorry for being like a year late
much love
george
xxxxx
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Hi Everyone :)
I'm trying to track down information on my great grandparents and would appreciate any help you can offer - I'm having trouble finding them through web searches and then found this forum. :)
Thomas Yelding - Circus "jocky rider" (trick rider) - I believe he performed at a royal command performance for Queen Victoria (?)
We have an engraved medal which was presented to him by (I think it was the Rotary Club of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales)
The engraving reads:
Presented to
Mr. Thomas Yelding
by a few of his friends and admirers
of Merthyr Tidvil
May 1880
if that helps?
He married Ellen Ginnette who I understand was French.
My grandmother, Ouida Yelding was the youngest of their 14 children.
They left England for South Africa before my grandmother was born, and she was born there.
My mother thinks that Thomas (her grandfather) died around the early 1930s in South Africa, and Ellen died there in 1924.
Four of their other children were called Jack, Rosa, Lizzie and Bogey - who were much older than my grandmother.
Any information on Thomas and Ellen would be appreciated.
Thanks v much in advance. :)
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Thomas Yelding was the father of Henry Yelding who married Abigail Fossett (Great Yarmouth, Norfolk) 24.XI.1861 St. Mary, Whitechapel, MDDX, and Harry Yelding who married Kate Hanneford 4Q 1895 Warrington, Lancs, both providing a great number of circus entertainers to the continent and the Americas.
Note that Thomas is listed as "shopkeeper" on one marriage certificate, but "artist" on the other . ...Aloha!
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Oops! Thomas Yelding, artist, was the father of John Yelding b. 1831, who married Martha Fosset 27.IX.1852 a St Bartholomew, Bethnal Green, Mddx.
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My 3xgrandmothers sister Caroline Mayo married Benjamin Yelding. Benjamin and Caroline travelled Sussex as General Dealers and finally settled in Witley Surrey. Benjamin's sister Emma Yelding married Robert Fossett of Fossett Circus. Benjamin father was Thomas Yelding who travelled Surrey and Buckinghamshire and was a Marine Store Dealer.
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I too come from Swanley and remember the Yelding family. I was at school with at least two of them. My family (Matthews/Collins) settled in Swanley c 1900 along with a large number of other travelling families. I sometimes think we could generate a whole RootsChat page just dedicated to the history of travellers in and around Swanley.
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Newspaper clipping for Thomas Yelding circus in Wales at Merthyr
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3284339/3284343/81/
There is a huge amount of information about Thomas Yelding and his circus horsemanship by subscription at Genes Reunited
http://www.GenesReunited.co.nz/searchbna/results?memberlastsubclass=none&searchhistorykey=0&keywords=thomas%20yelding
"THE YELDINGS
The Yeldings are another prolific circus family: their name has appeared on circus programmes all over the world for the last 100 years. Thomas Yelding, a jockey act, died just before the war while with Pagel's Circus in South Africa. He was eighty-one. His three brothers, Robert, Harry and Johnny, were also riders, Robert being distinguished for his finished displays in such scenas as "The Gambler," "The Shipwrecked Mariner," "Shaw the Lifeguardsman" and "The Indian" Harry, for some reason tiring of the family name, called himself Sloane and his two sons and two daughters, who clown on stilts, are known as the Sloane family. Johnny's three sons all performed with the Mills Circus, Tony as a rider, Claude and David as trapezists. At one performance Claude, missing a catch, fell and was killed. Bob's daughter, Eleanore, is the only English girl who performs on the sliding wire. Once she was nearly killed. This was about ten years ago when she was performing with Ray Stott's Circus. The light failed and in this emergency the circus ring was lit with the lamps of a motor car: the audience, mostly miners, shouted they couldn't see and rioted, destroying the seating and cutting the rope for the dive to death act just as Eleanor begun her slide. She crashed and sprawled in the ring, everyone thought she must be dead, but she was all right, only badly bruised." - credit to this link http://www.twjc.co.uk/books/thecircusbook.html
"Ohmy’s real name was a rather plain and ordinary one; it was Joe Smith, who came from Nottingham. He was married and had at least two children, Claude and Minnie who were both circus artistes and appeared regularly in Ohmy’s circus. Claude, while in Blackburn, lodged at 44 Mill Lane and was married to Lizzie Yelding who was a bare back rider from Nottingham. They were both interned in Germany during World War One." Lizzie Yelding was Thomas Yeldings daughter http://www.cottontown.org/Culture%20and%20Leisure/Theatre/Pages/The-Show-Must-Go-On.aspx
"Kate Hanneford the youngest of the children, married Henry Yelding, son of another well known English circus family. She had thick red hair and an eighteen inch waist, and was considered a top equestrienne. While she was appearing in Paris with Circus Medrano she was photo- graphed sitting on a horse. She was being presented a bouquet by a clown while the ring- master and her dog, Boo Boo, looked on. Her costume was quite outrageous for the time - a tutu - female riders being expected to dress modestly at that time. The interesting point about that picture is that the famous French painter, Henri Toulouse-Lautrec painted a series of circus pictures, some of which resembled the photograph. Thus, it is considered by most people that Kate is the subject of those paintings - in particular "In The Circus Fernando" circa 1888.
Kate and Henry had four children, Henry Edwin, Dolly, Millie, and John. Henry became a champion stilt walker and, under the name "Harry Sloan", came to the United States in the late 1920's to appear in the Ringling show with sister Dolly and brother John. The family still performs today. After Henry died, in 1918, Kate retired and ran a boarding house in Lowestoft, England. Each year, until her death in 1957, she traveled to London for an annual circus performers' Christmas party where she was recognized as the oldest female rider." credit to this link http://www.hanneford.8m.com/history/earlydays.htm
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Hello,
I am currently trying to track down information about my biological grandmother. She left my mother and her 3 sisters with their dad, when she was a baby. She just received information about her mothers family and I wanted to learn more. She passed away a few years ago but I do not know when she was born or passed away.
Her name was Jacqueline Yelding and she passed away in Glasgow, Scotland. She had 3 siblings Frankie, Terry, and Tony.
She is related to the Yelding brothers who were famous in the circus world. Her father's name was George Yelding. One of the more famous brothers was John 'speedy' yelding and he was married to Emmie Yelding. She is actually related to another famous circus family and is the granddaughter of 'Sir' Robert Fosset.
I hope that information jumps out to anyone and that I can get into contact with anyone that has additional information. Google has not been much help and neither have other websites.
Thank you!
Amber Taylor
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Hi
Found this thread by accident but hoping to add some relevant information if possible.
My name is Anthony Yelding, son of Tony Yelding (1937) whose siblings were Jaqueline, Frank and Terry, they resided in Glasgow for a number of years. His father George Yelding was part of the Circus Family.
My dad is still alive in 2023 aged 85 and regularly speaks of his history.
Happy to share anything further if useful 😊