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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: gailmulligan on Friday 18 February 05 13:13 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
Like many others my husband is supposed to be related to the Stephenson family.
We have a Mary Ann Stephenson born 1833/4 in Tynemouth. Her father is William Stephenson. If you have any info or are conneted to the Stephensons please feel free to contact us.
Thanks
Gail
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Hi George Stephensons family tree is online some where
but this could be your
Mary Ann Stephenson chris 10/6/1836 Christ Church Tynemouth
father William Stephenson
mother Eleaner
audrey
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Hi Audrey,
Thanks for your input but having talked with someone on the GC site I don't think it is.
Gail
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http://www.steamindex.com/people/stephen.htm
if you go to the above site you may get some info
audrey
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Hi Audrey,
Have just been to the site. It is very informative but did not give me any family info.
Thanks for your help.
Gail
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Gail,
Was your Mary Ann born in the town of Tynemouth in the Parish of Tynemouth or in the district of Tynemouth ?
Michael Dixon
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All it says on the census is that she was born in North Tynemouth. Sorry not much help.
Gail
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Gail,
The reason I ask is that some enumerators of censuses recorded "Parish of Birth" rather than birth PLACE. e.g. my g/f was born in New Hartley, but C1881 shows Earsdon ( the parish in which New Hartley lay) and C1901 shows Cramlington ( probably because enumerator was not sure where the border between Eardon parish and Cramlington parish lay
Also, because Tynemouth was the "District Register Office" for BMDs for such a wide area of south-east Northumberland, the records show BMDs at "Tynemouth" when in fact many occurred were in surrounding areas.
For instance Tynemouth DRO had 7 sub-district offices, at Blyth, Longbenton, North Shields, Wallsend, Whitley
( before it was Whitley Bay), Earsdon ( and that's another story) and Tynemouth. So at least folk got to save a bit of shoe leather by registering their "events" a bit nearer to where they happened. But GRO records will only show "Tynemouth".
With the census showing " North Tynemouth" , it is hard to say whether the official meant the northern part of the town of Tynemouth, or the northern part of Tynemouth parish or district. The northern part of the parish would be Whitley (Bay) area.
It is also possible that official wrote his ( women not authorised as census enumerators until C1891) abbreviation for Northumberland as , maybe.. " North 'd", as a prefix to the town of Tynemouth, and transcriber copied it as simply "North". I am now just browsing through some copies of census pages and I see that on my batch, enumerators wrote county first, followed by place.
Now you will wonder why Michael the Trainspotter is chewing long over this issue... well tieing down accurate birth place, increases the chances of finding church records for the event.
I see that the other Rocket,..... Ronnie the Rocket O'Sullivan won the English Masters Snooker last night !
Michael
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Hi Micheal,
Thanks for all that info. I have just checked all the census and some say North Tynmouth and some say Nortumberland, Tynemouth.
But don't worry about the shoe leather as I live nowhere near Northumberland to be able to check any of it.
Gail
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Gail,
As I felt a bit guilty about throwing Lecture number 37 (b)ii at you. I popped into my local library ( Bl;yth) this morning and dug up this..
In Census 1851 Surname Indexes for Tynemouth area, I saw several ... Mary Ann Stephenson.
But the only one born anywhere near 1833 was the Mary Ann in the family below.
Census 1851 Tynemouth.. Piece 2410 Folio 355*
Head Richard, 54yrs, Occ.. Trinity Alms House Annuitant, born Tynemouth.
Wife, Jane 51, Occ. Ex-Master Mariner's wife, b.Tynemouth.
Dtr, Elizabeth, unmarried, 23, Ex-MM's dtr, b.Tynemouth
Son, William Henry, u/m, 21 Plumber & Brazier, b. Preston.
Dtr, Mary Ann, u/m, 19, ex-MM's dtr, b. Tynemouth.
Dtr, Margaret. 12, scholar, b.Tynemouth.
*My library did not have the census pages available, to see their address etc... but from the folio number ( 355) I could ascertain that the family resided in the town of Tynemouth itself, and not it's surrounding areas.
From Master Mariner sorces in the library, I could see that Richard was Master of many ships ( at least 12) in the period from late 1820s to very early 1850s.
But your Mary Ann's dad was a William... so........???.
And your Mary Ann by 1851, could have been living anywhere !
If you want details of Richard's ships, I will send them...
Michael Dixon
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Hi Micheal,
By 1861 Mary was living with her husband Richard Broadley (sometimes Bradley) in Durham. They married in 1857 in Pittington Durham. Richard is from Moorleeds Lancashire. I don't have anything on them before that.
Please don't feel guilty about your emails as I have enjoyed reading them and you are a star looking for them for me.
Thank you so much.
Gail
PS. I look forward to reding your next installment.
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Hi Gail
I have a Mary ann Stephenson and Richard Rushton Broadley as my
GG grandparents. They had two boys, one of which was Richard Rushton Broadley. My family history begins with one of those boys Richard born June 17, 1863 in Coundon England. He and wife Anne Mylan were married abt. 1884 and had 15 children. One of which was my Grandfather. George Stephenson Broadley. It was always said that he was a relation to the Rocket Men fame. But I for the life of me cant seem to find any more information. Our Mary ann Stephenson was born abt. 1828 and Richard Ruchton Broadley born abt. 1826. If you could help in any way I would be really greatful. Thankyou Brett (Turbostreet)
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Hi Brett.
Can you email me direct as we are connected as I have a fair amount of info that I can share with you.
nogspad@blueyonder.co.uk
Cheers Gail
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hi all
i am looking for the baptism records of a mary ann stephenson born c1794 in newcastle, she married george bell in 1830
any help much appreciated
michael
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Hi Everyone,
I hope you dont mind me adding to this thread, im currently searching a GG Grand mother also named "mary ann stephenson" although i know she was located in Ontario Canada at time giving birth to a son "Shadrick" (great name eh !) during 1890... i noticed this was a similar time some other mentioned times (if perhaps a generation later though), ...i also know the canadian side of our family originated from the Yorkshire area of UK but no one knows when the family emigrated.
I managed to find her name on My Great Grandfathers WW1 recruitment form in the canadian genealogy archives: http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat3/117128a.gif
If anyone thinks they might be able to help or add any info i'd be very greatful
Rgds
Dan
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Hi, I think i found my George and Mary Ann Stephenson in the 1901 canadian census:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/DisplayHousehold.jsp?sdid=1622&household=58
confirmed with real image at:
http://data4.collectionscanada.ca/netacgi/nph-brs?s4=ON&s3=ontario&s6=99&s5=pickering&s2=b-10&s7=&s8=&s1=&Sect4=AND&l=20&Sect1=IMAGE&Sect2=THESOFF&Sect5=FS31PEN&s10=1901&Sect6=HITOFF&d=GS31&p=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collectionscanada.gc.ca%2Farchivianet%2F02012203_e.html&r=0&f=S
hope that helps someone elses tree maybe, Chrs
Dan
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There is a building known as" George Stephensons Cottage "where he was born and its still standing. It at West Moor between Low Gosforth and Earsdon on the back road to Monkseaton. The cottage its self is close to Killingworth.
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George Stephenson's Rocket took part in the Trials at Rainhill.
http://www.newcomen.com/excerpts/rainhill/index.htm
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There is a building known as" George Stephensons Cottage "where he was born and its still standing. It at West Moor between Low Gosforth and Earsdon on the back road to Monkseaton. The cottage its self is close to Killingworth.
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so does that mean the history books are all wrong? and George Stephens cottage at Wylam where he is supposed to have been born is just a load of porkies Lol
the national trust will need to get the facts right now and take those signs down out side the cottage at Wylam.
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I know about the Cottage at Wylam and the Puffin Billy and the Wylam Dilly the two engines before the Rocket desgigned by George. But the Cootage is still at West Moor maybe Im mistaken about it being the birth place