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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: jackiedillimore on Friday 18 February 05 11:41 GMT (UK)
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Could anyone please help me with a look up in the 1851 + 1861 census, for my THEARLE / THARLE / THURL family. I am looking for:
John Mott Thearle and his family wifes name possibly Catherine / Maria or Emily
John born 1849 Islington
Ellen born 1853 West London
Anna Maria born 1860 Islington
There could be more children?
They should be in the Islington area.
Any help would be greatfully recieved
Jackie
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Hi Jackie
Are you still looking for this information?
Regards
Jonathan
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Because if you are this may well be them.
The family is recorded over 2 pages. On the first image the name looks like Thearl and on the second image it is spelt Thurl. Best of both worlds! The writing is difficult to read.
Here we go.............
6, MacRemburgh Street St Pancras Middlesex
John Thearl 1820 Westminster, Middlesex, Head Goldsmith
Maria Thearl 1823 Newington, Surrey, Wife
John Thearl 1849 Islington, Middlesex, Son
Ellen Thearl 1854 Islington, Middlesex, Daughter
Maria Thurl 1855 St Pancras, Middlesex, Daughter
George Thurl 1857 St Pancras, Middlesex, Son
St Antin(Aubin)? Thurl 1860 New Cross, Surrey, Son
Emma Dent abt 1843 St Pancras, Middlesex, Domestic Servant
Angelina Fullersworth 1847 Blackheath Domestic Servant
RG9/106 Pancras Grays Inn Lane Folio 10 Page 16
Schedule 60
Tricia
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I did spot this birth which may account for the strange name above
THEARLE, St Aubyn Sleigh
Birth Quarter ending March 1860
Greenwich
1d
586
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Hi TriciaQ,
Brilliant!!!! Thank you so much for the information, this family have been very illusive. Its great finally for someone to find them, i had almost given up hope.
Thanks again for all your help it is very much appreciated
Jackie
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I happened upon your post through Google. Maria Chivers Thearle was my great grandmother, however she changed her name after her marriage to John Wesley. She actually went by Myra C Wesley. I am struggling with her father's birth information, as well as any other information I can find as they seem to be quite elusive. Finding these posts has helped and hopefully will provide other insight. I don't know whether you are still in search for the Thearle family, however if you have any helpful information concerning birth records for John Mott Thearle or his parents information, I would be very appreciative. I do know John Mott Thearle was a Goldsmith as well as a Mason.
Kind regards,
Tish
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If you send for this certificate it should give you John's father and the maiden name of Maria and her father's name
Marriage qrt ending qrt June 1848
John Mott Thearle
W. London Vol 2 Page 226
There is a Maria Harding with the same reference number
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On the 1851 census we have
198 Fleet Street, St Dunstan, Westminster
John M Thearle Head 31 Goldsmith born Westminster
Maria wife 26 born Middlesex
Frederick L son 3 months born Middlesex
Emma Fetter servant 16 born Middlesex
HO107/1527 Folio 203 Page 41
Also
Frederick Leake Thearle
birth qrt ending Dec 1850
St Lukes Vol2 Page 332
Frederick Leake Thearle
Death qrt ending Mar 1852
Vol 1c Page 58
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Now it would be good if we could find John Thearle born 1849 Islington with one of his granparents in 1851 but I haven't been able to spot him as yet :(
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I notice that you are on Ancestry showing this family tree
You do seem to have the information???
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I just looked for 1851 census data for John in hopes he may have been mentioned with his grandparents Harding. I have the 1851 for Harding however he was not in it. I have not found the data for Thearle. I will continue to search for 1851 and 1861 and post what I find.
Thank you for your help,
Tish Maynez
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I searched and found them in the 1861 census as you'd mentioned in the chat, however the address was eluding me as I searched on current maps of St Pancras. I found the record with the help you provided, so thank you very much. They lived at 60 Mecklenburgh Street in St Pancras. (You are right, the handwriting is hard to read.)
Thanks so much for your help, Tricia.
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My constant search for information on my Great Great grandfather brought me to your thread regarding Frederic Leake.
This was the name given to him by his mother..he was base born. Frederic dropped the Leake and L, and called himself Frederick Smith.
I have not come across anyone else being called Frederick Leake, and wonder if you know if there were any links to prompt the parents to name him this?
My Frederic was born in Norfolk, but lived his whole life in Bethnal Green.
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Fredrick Leake Thearle was my great grand uncle. I do not have information concerning the 'Leake' portion of his name however I am certain it must have some significance. Thank you for the bit about him changing it to Smith. That may send us on another direction and help answer some questions.
Your Fredrick was my great grandmother's, Maria Chivers Thearle, brother. It was difficult tracking down records as she had changed her name to Myra after she married John Wesley.
Any additional information you have is greatly appreciated and I am happy to share data I have as well.
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I'm sorry if I may have confused you. My Frederick was baptised Frederic Leake Smith. Born 1800 East Dereham, Norfolk. Mother Susannah Smith.
He never used the name Leake, nor the initial, and was always known as Frederick Smith.