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Title: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Wednesday 01 April 09 16:16 BST (UK)
Hi ,I was wondering if anyone had any information on a James Snaddon,b.15.04.1830,Polmont,Scotland, and married 30.12 1862 Tamworth,NSW ,Australia and died 08.01.1911 at Tamworth,NSW Australia.
He married a Mary Ann Coulton,I was looking to find out the name of his parents,thanks in anticapation. :( :(completed. :-*
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 01 April 09 22:29 BST (UK)
Hi daisymae,

The only death I can see in NSW using the spelling you have given is

1811/1900  Joseph H. SNADDON father    ANDREW  mother ELIZABETH@ HAMILTON.

Under the Spelling with an E. are these 2 in Tamworth


3379/1911 SNEDDON ,JAMES ,   8O YRS TAMWORTH            

                  
6131/1869 SNEDDON,JAMES fatherJAMES mother   MARY @   TAMWORTH

So is it the SNEDDON in 1911 you are after?

Where did you get your information about James?


Sue     

   
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 01 April 09 22:35 BST (UK)
http://cemindex.arkangles.com/inscriptions.php

I do not see an inscription for this man at the Tamworth Cemetery.

Will keep looking.
Sue
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Wednesday 01 April 09 22:43 BST (UK)
Dear Daisymae,
I have just looked on the NSW BDM for your James. His (and Mary Ann's ) name was entered as SNEDDON

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Reference: 3379
Year:1911     
 SNEDDON,  JAMES      8O YRS TAMWORTH             TAMWORTH  

Where the parents name normally is entered, James only has 80 years Tamworth, so alas, his parents aren't entered.

Mary Ann's parents are entered however.

Reference :11214
Year :1904     
SNEDDON      MARY A      WILLIAM      MARY      TAMWORTH

On their marriage certificate, Snaddon is again misspelt
Reference:3059
Year:1862     
Groom:SNEDDEN      JAMES     
 Bride:COULTON      MARY ANN     
Place: TAMWORTH

If you check on the BDM site, there is another SNADDON listed.

In the 1841 British Census there are 2 James Snaddon's listed living in Polmont.

James (aged 10) is listed as living with Mary SNADDON (aged 45)
James (aged 11) is living with Mary BENNIE (aged 35) along with George Snaddon (13), William Snaddon (9), Jean Snaddon (7) and Alexander Snaddon (5).

I don't know if either of these James are your man (especially considering the misspelling of his surname) but maybe some of the names will  ring a bell.

Cheers
Susie
 
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 00:12 BST (UK)
Hi


and died 08.01.1911 at Tamworth,NSW  Susie

Per reply # 1
3379/1911 SNEDDON ,JAMES ,   8O YRS TAMWORTH           


If you check on the BDM site, there is another SNADDON listed. Susie
Per reply #1

1811/1900  Joseph H. SNADDON father    ANDREW  mother ELIZABETH@ HAMILTON.
 ;D ;D

daisymae,
Apart from the information Susie has turned up for you , do you have any other details or knowledge of his wife at all?

Sue

Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Thursday 02 April 09 00:26 BST (UK)
Hi,
Sorry to have duplicated some of Sue's information.........didn't check when posting.  :(
Have done another NSW BDM check http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

and it appears that Mary Ann Coulton was born in NSW in 1845
Registration :V18451457 31A
Date:1845     
COULTON, MARY A     
Father:WILLIAM     
Mother:MARY A     
Cheers
Susie
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 00:30 BST (UK)
Hi All,
Looking at the 1903 electoral roll for Tamworth....

SNEDON [sic] James Mackie , Of Tamworth, miner.

Sue

ADDING,
This from 1872 Greville's postal Dirctory Tamworth

 COULTON  William  farmer    Moore Ck.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 00:38 BST (UK)
Hi,
This is also from the Grevilles PO Directory for Tamworth.


SNEDDEN    James     farmer    Wallamore
SNEDDEN   William   farmer    Wallamore


wonder if they were brothers and whether the James is yours

Sue
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 00:44 BST (UK)
Some burials at the Tamworth Cemetery.

Sneddon   Mary Ann 31 Aug 1904   59?yw/James   Mth   K3   
   
Sneddon   William23 Aug 1886,63y b. Scot   Pbn   A3

wonder if they were brothers and whether the James is yours



Sue
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Thursday 02 April 09 01:01 BST (UK)
Dear Sue,
If this is the correct James (reply #3), then the William at Tamworth Cemetery may be his brother!
"In the 1841 British Census there are 2 James Snaddon's listed living in Polmont.

James (aged 10) is listed as living with Mary SNADDON (aged 45)
James (aged 11) is living with Mary BENNIE (aged 35) along with George Snaddon (13), William Snaddon (9), Jean Snaddon (7) and Alexander Snaddon (5)."

Cheers
Susie

Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 01:35 BST (UK)

Hi Susie,


James (aged 11) is living with Mary BENNIE (aged 35) along with George Snaddon (13), William Snaddon (9), Jean Snaddon (7) and Alexander Snaddon (5)."


There are references on the electoral roll for Sneddons with some of those given names at Tamworth.

Probably in the PO directories too.  I wll look
.

1903 Electoral  at West Tamworth.
Alexander Sneddon , labourer
Alexander Sneddon jnr. Labourer

George Sneddon Farmer   
Isaac Sneddon Farmer     Both of Burnhead Farm.

This for Isaac on bdm NSW

20610/1876  SNEDDON  ISAAC father  JAMES mother MARY ANN  TAMWORTH   

This also from the NSW State Archives.
Insolvency.

SNADDON   Alexander   ,Tamworth,Laborer   6/08/188015926   15/10/1896   

Sue
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 01:58 BST (UK)
Anyway, allowing for a great many doubtfuls and lots of IF's

This could possibly be the death entry for WILLIAM who may possibly be the brother of James and it shows these parents ::)

Don't know ???

11715/1896  SNEDDON,  WILLIAM  father ALEXANDERmother  MARY @ TAMWORTH 

Sue 
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Thursday 02 April 09 02:04 BST (UK)

Hi Susie,


James (aged 11) is living with Mary BENNIE (aged 35) along with George Snaddon (13), William Snaddon (9), Jean Snaddon (7) and Alexander Snaddon (5)."


There are references on the electoral roll for Sneddons with some of those given names at Tamworth.

Probably in the PO directories too.  I wll look
.

1903 Electoral  at West Tamworth.
Alexander Sneddon , labourer
Alexander Sneddon jnr. Labourer

George Sneddon Farmer   
Isaac Sneddon Farmer     Both of Burnhead Farm.

This for Isaac on bdm NSW

20610/1876  SNEDDON  ISAAC father  JAMES mother MARY ANN  TAMWORTH   

This also from the NSW State Archives.
Insolvency.

SNADDON   Alexander   ,Tamworth,Laborer   6/08/188015926   15/10/1896   

Sue

Whacko......looks like the same family and they all came to Australia! Great find. ;D ;D ;D

Cheers
Susie
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 02:26 BST (UK)
Hi Susie,
I would lke that to be true, but after a trawl of the immigration records I cannot find them all arriving in the right time frame.

There are a GEORGE and ALEXANDER [brothers ] together on GOLCONDA in 1858.

But no viable James at all. And no William is  placed well either.

A bit patchy and indefinite ???

IT is possible that others have Resources to look beyond the State Archives for arrivals ;D

Possibly one of these 2 under different spellings??

SNADDEN James 25 ship Alfred .1858 Moreton Bay.  Reels 2138, 2477 
SNEDDEN, James 24 ship St Helena 1854 Sydney and/or Newcastle and brothers Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2467, [4/4942]


Sue
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Thursday 02 April 09 02:32 BST (UK)
Dear Sue,
Let's hope a resources rich person hops on the thread..........with immigration records ;) ;)

Alas, it is my total achilles heel!

Cheers
Susie
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 02:36 BST (UK)
Well here is the rest of the entries for SNEDDEN

 
SNEDDEN George 26  ship St Helena 1854 Sydney and/or Newcastle and brothers Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2467, [4/4942]
 
SNEDDEN James 24  ship St Helena 1854 Sydney and/or Newcastle and brothers Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2467, [4/4942] 

SNEDDEN William 21  ship St Helena 1854 Sydney and/or Newcastle and brothers Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2467, [4/4942] 

Sue
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 02:40 BST (UK)
Hi
This is probably GEORGE's death with the same parents as WILLIAM

5622/1868  SNEDDON,  GEORGE father  ALEXANDER  mother MARY @ NUNDLE 

Nundle is in the TAMWORTH area.



The age gaps between the brothers  on the ship tallies very closely with the age gaps of  those on Susie's 1841 census findings.

 
Sue 

ADDING
For reasons of elimination, the only other 2 SNEDDON deaths with Parents ALexander and Mary are for infant twins in the Merewether district in 1906 according to BDM nsw


Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Thursday 02 April 09 05:23 BST (UK)
Hi,
 So of we go back to reply #3.............who is Mary BENNIE......is she their mother/nanny/married sister/aunty.......the mystery of it all! ;D ;D

Cheers
Susie
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 02 April 09 07:05 BST (UK)
Hi daisymae,

A Big Welcome to RootsChat  ;D

Lovely to have you join us.

Hi also Sue and Susie. Looks like you hardly need me here. Great work.  ;D

I had found the 1841 and the possible ships arrivals to check before I left. Also noted the births of James, George and William are listed on the IGI along with the extracted of the marriage of

Alexander SNADDEN = Mary BENNIE 30 Jun 1826 Muiravonside, Stirling.

It is common in Scotland for a woman to use her maiden name (or alternate between her maiden and married name) I believe the children are with their mother in 1841. You can access the entry at

http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Anyway, just back from a long stretch at the library, but at least I fitted in a nice lunch with a friend.  ;D

Here are the passenger lists of interest which prove what you have already worked out.

From the passenger list of the St Helena arriving 20 Dec 1854 Sydney

SNEDDEN George 26 Miner b Polmont Stirlingshire Parents Alexander and Mary father dead mother living in Polmont Religion CS could read and write and was in good health
SNEDDEN James 24 ditto all
SNEDDEN William 21 ditto all bar pob Falkirk Stirlingshire

From the passenger list of the Golconda arrived Sydney 21 Oct  1858

SNEDDON George 28 Baker b Polman Stirling Parents Alexander and Mary father dead mother living in Polmont religion Presbyterian could read and write, in good health relative in the colonies 2 cousins James and William BANNING at Hanging Rock
SNEDDON Alexander 22 Miner b Bunkland Scotland ditto rest

some of it was hard to read - hope I have transcribed correctly.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Thursday 02 April 09 07:09 BST (UK)
Dear Kris,
Great find..........what a journey these kids made!

Cheers
Susie
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: heart247 on Thursday 02 April 09 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi Kris

I am new to Rootschat and this was the only way i found to contact you, sorry for butting in to this chat.

i registered because i found a chat that happened in 2006 where you were the moderator and i need help with it. Will you please email me so we can chat?

Thanks,
 heart247
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 02 April 09 21:04 BST (UK)
Hi All,
I cant help having a little speculate now and then and to me it looks as if George made his return trip home as the eldest son, perhaps when his mother died and for the return trip brought with him the youngest brother.

Perhaps it was not the death of the mother,but and event such a marriage for one of the sisters which changed the family set up and needed his attention.

OR none of the above ;D

Excuse my wild imaginings please!

sue
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Friday 03 April 09 14:53 BST (UK)
Hi all,thanks very much for the information and all the hard work that has gone into tracing my relatives all the facts that have been posted have all fitted in and it will take me some time to get my head round all that you have found and can I say a special thanks to Sue,Kris and Susie,hope that I have not missed anyone out.Sorry for the delay in replying but I have been caught up with everyday  things.This is my james who was with his mother Mary in 1841 but who went missing after the 1861 census was taken.Cheers Daiseymae.Completed.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Saturday 04 April 09 08:04 BST (UK)
Hi all,I put the wrong date down yesterday,it should have read the 1851 census for Whitburn,West Lothian,the Snaddon's were staying with John and Janet Morton there was also a George Bibbey staying there. :-[
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: timothy7 on Sunday 18 April 10 14:17 BST (UK)
Hi,   just found your listing on James Snaddon.NSW, His name in Australia was spelt Sneddon.  He is an ancestor of mine..my mother was a Sneddon., her father was George .I live in Tamworth NSW and I am also doing the family tree trace.  Did you find what you were looking for.  Do you have any further information.
Could you reply to...... (*)....Thank you

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Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Tuesday 20 April 10 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi Timothy 7,yes I did find what I was looking for and I would like to hear from you?What other information are you after,would be keen to assist.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: timothy7 on Sunday 25 April 10 08:23 BST (UK)
Thank you for you reply. His parents were Alexander Sneddon and Mary Benni , could you reseach or do you have any info on  Mary Bennie  pease...Would be grateful for any information.....Thank you




Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Sunday 25 April 10 17:05 BST (UK)
Hi Timothy,Mary was born about 1806 at Muiravonside,Polmont,Stirling,married 27 August 1825 at Polmont,her age on marriage was 25 years,she died 15 December 1869,at Redding Polmont,death certificate No78,her parents were George Bennie and Isabella Wyper.Her death was reported by her brother,Andrew Bennie.
On the 1841 census,Redding,Polmont;
Mary Bennie.35
George Snadden 13
James Snadden 11
William Snadden9
Jean Snadden 7
Alexander Snadden 5
Hope that this has been of some help.Cheers Bob.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: timothy7 on Tuesday 27 April 10 13:35 BST (UK)
This is wonderful, thank you so much...anymore information that comes to hand would be greatfully appreciated.  Is there anyhting I can help you with at my end here in Australia...Sneddon's  are still here in Tamworth. :)
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Tuesday 27 April 10 17:27 BST (UK)
Hi Timothy,I will keep you in mind and when I get settled in proper I will keep in touch with you as I am sure there will be something you have that will be of interest to me.If there is anymore I come across I will send it on.Cheers,Bob.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: timothy7 on Wednesday 28 April 10 14:29 BST (UK)
Thank you,   Do you mind if I ask you were you live,e.g. country or whatever you wish to let me know ,  are you related to a Sneddon or a Coulton.  Would like to know your interest in the Sneddon's.  There is a lot of history for the Sneddon's here in Tamworth.  Lot went to war and a lot didn't return, so sad. Anyhow, talk soon......Noelene 
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Kiama on Wednesday 28 April 10 20:15 BST (UK)
Hi,
Sorry to have duplicated some of Sue's information.........didn't check when posting.  :(
Have done another NSW BDM check http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

and it appears that Mary Ann Coulton was born in NSW in 1845
Registration :V18451457 31A
Date:1845     
COULTON, MARY A     
Father:WILLIAM     
Mother:MARY A     
Cheers
Susie

Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Kiama on Wednesday 28 April 10 20:20 BST (UK)
Hullo Siouxsie,
Do you have a personal interest in Sneddon & Coulton?    Are you related?
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Wednesday 28 April 10 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi Kiama,
Alas, I have no connection to the family......just a Rootschatter!

Is your name indicative of your residence?

Cheers
Siouxsie
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Kiama on Thursday 29 April 10 05:38 BST (UK)
Yes, close aren't we?
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Siouxsie on Thursday 29 April 10 08:16 BST (UK)
Sure are.....and I will be there tomorrow  ;D


Cheers
Siouxsie
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Friday 30 April 10 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi Noelene,I am a sneddon and I live in Dunfermline,Scotland,my GGGG grandfathers brother was Alexander Snaddon,husband of Mary Bennie.Alexanders children went to Australia,George and James,you can read there story earlier on on roots chat as I got help in tracing them from the wonderful people at rootschat.I was facinated by how they managed to emigrate as the sea journey was supposed to have been horrible.As a matter of interest,Alexander had ten brothers and sisters,all got married and ,well it's a large clan.Please feel free to keep in touch if you would like anything else,cheers,Bob.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Sneddo on Tuesday 14 June 11 06:19 BST (UK)
Hi there I'm a Sneddon from N.S.W Australia, my father and his family are from Tamworth. I am just getting into the Fam tree again after quite some time and your information lines up with mine. :) so it would be great to chat and possibly fill any gaps...

Very excited to maybe chat to someone. Ive gotten back to Alexander Sneddon who is my 4th Great Grandfather.

Regards,
Matt Sneddon.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Sneddo on Tuesday 14 June 11 06:55 BST (UK)
My Father is a Sneddon from Tamworth.....
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Kiama on Tuesday 14 June 11 07:22 BST (UK)
Hi there I'm a Sneddon from N.S.W Australia, my father and his family are from Tamworth. I am just getting into the Fam tree again after quite some time and your information lines up with mine. :) so it would be great to chat and possibly fill any gaps...

Very excited to maybe chat to someone. Ive gotten back to Alexander Sneddon who is my 4th Great Grandfather.

Regards,
Matt Sneddon.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Kiama on Tuesday 14 June 11 07:26 BST (UK)
Hullo Matt,
Happy to chat.........have rellies in Tamworth, I am in Kiama, my mother was a Sneddon.
Do you have an email address we could use? 
Regards Lorna
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
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Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: Sneddo on Tuesday 14 June 11 11:56 BST (UK)
wow thank you for a reply i thought it would be a hit and miss leaving a msg, but goes to show you never know. i will have to do a few more postes so the PM thing works.

Matt.
Title: Re: James SNADDON - NSW
Post by: daisymae on Friday 17 June 11 15:26 BST (UK)
Hi Matt,only saw your message as I been away for a few days,would be pleased to chat with you,if you can find a way I can give you my e mail address as I am new to computing,cheers Bob sneddon.