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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: HilaryW on Wednesday 01 April 09 09:54 BST (UK)
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Having seen some posts on here about policemen, I am hoping someone can help me with this photograph.
It belonged to my grandparents and I thought that it showed relatives/friends of my grandfather who was a policeman in Manchester, but apparently the helmet badge doesn't belong to Manchester and Hull was suggested.
Any help would be appreciated
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Hi Hilary...I have a book on the registration of Hull Policemen and will have a look for you when I get home to see if their numbers appear in the book...do you have any names?
Carol
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Hi Carol
Unfortunately there is nothing written on the back of the photo, so it is only guess work. If they are from my grandmother's side then they might be Plaxtons - most of this family is located in the East and North Riding.
I thought that they would be easy to identify since you can see the collar numbers, but have realised that the numbers were reissued and used by many policemen.
Sorry I can't be more helpful
Hilary
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Hi Hilary,
I have had a look at the policemen of Hull, The first number 228 was issued to George Watson on 29th March 1883 and from there we have :- George Henry Clift issued 31,7,1909. then Edward Marson on 1.11.1910, then Edward Stephenson 11,12,1923 and lastly James Harry Curtis 26.5.1952 I have nothing in my books for after 1974 but looking at their dress I would say they were well before then.
As for PC 378 I have William Warcup issued 13.8,1908 then Harry Edward Lee issued 16.6,1936 then John Michael Marsh issued 28.1,1963 and Kenneth George Wood issued 29.11.1963
In the East Riding for PC 228 I found David Eltherington issued 26.1.1948 and Walter Gerald Kingston issued 4.4.1949, There were no PC 378 shown.
In the East Riding there was a George Plaxton joined 7.7,1872 but number not known.
Hope this helps Rockofages
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Looks like Rockofages beat me to it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D...nice work.
Carol
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Many thanks Rockofages - I think you may have identified them.
I do have an Edward Marson on my tree. He was a first cousin to my Gran, his mother being Rachel Ann Plaxton. In which case the other policeman would be William Warcup - must have been a colleague, not a relative as far as I know.
I have found an Edward Marson in the 1911 census in Hull who would be the right age, so I will put him on the list of ones to get.
The George Plaxton is also on my tree - my Gran's uncle. He can't have been a policeman for long, as he was a servant in the 1871 census, a policeman when he married in 1878 and a general labourer in the 1881 census, then later becoming a railway signalman.
Thank you so much for sorting a long lasting family mystery
Hilary
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Hi Hilary,
I will be going into Beverley next week where I can have a look at the Police records, I will look up your man if you wish
Regards Rock of ages
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Thanks Rock of ages
Any information that you come across would be very welcome
Hilary
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Dear Hilary,
I have just come upon your post, which includes a photograph of two Hull City policemen. PC 378 is definitely my maternal grandfather, William ‘Bill’ Warcup. (I have never seen this photograph before. It’s a wonderful shot.) He was stationed at Norfolk Street Police Station, Beverley Road, Hull. For some 25 years, from whence he “retired” to the Warrant and Summons Department at Hull’s Guild Hall, for a further period of duty until he retired fully by the end of WWII.
Yours sincerely
Ray Woodward
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Hi Ray and welcome to RootsChat, how great that you should find a photo of your Grandfather. Hilary hasn't been active on RootsChat for a year, but she may still pick this response up if her email is still current. If not, you could send her a personal message, you do this by clicking on the text icon beneath her name on the left.
Good Luck!
Carol
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Thank you, Carol.
I take it you must be “admin”. I happened upon your site completely by accident. It was a delightful surprise.
Cheers,
Ray
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Hi Ray....no, I am a volunteer, but as you will find out, this is a very friendly site with lots of knowledgeable members who are willing to help.
Carol
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Thank you very much.
I’m trying to get my head around the amount of time you must devote to “happen upon” random communications, like mine.
I am very grateful. No doubt you’ll see me dotting about in here as I grow accustomed to the format.
Cheers,
Ray
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Glad to hear that you plan to become a regular visitor. I mainly spent my time on the Photo Restoration Board where I restore and colour old and damaged photos that people upload there. It's a great free service. I do look ups on here too as I am from the area so have local knowledge. If you press the forum button at the top of the page, you will see all the County boards including other boards of interest too.
Carol
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A large (enormous) posting about Hull Policemen.
www.hcpoca.co.uk/HCPOCA/Newsletters_files/2007.pdf
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Hi Ray
Yes, I'm still around although haven't logged in for a while.
Glad you were able to find the photo. As is the case many times when you inherit a box of family photos with nothing written on them, it's really frustrating. I was very appreciative of the help given here in solving this particular puzzle.
Good luck with your searches
Hilary