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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kirkcudbrightshire => Topic started by: bethsdragon on Tuesday 31 March 09 02:55 BST (UK)
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I am looking for information about the Hume family from scotland.
I know of Andrew Hume 1st marriage to Grace Law and second marriange to Alice Mary. He was born in Kurkcudbright and later moved to upstate NY.
His parents were John & Ellen Hume.
Our family ties in with Helen (Nellie) Hume born 1883 who married Thomas Pearson in 1909. She was raised by her grandmother Murray (?) and went to work at the Glenross house as a maid when she was 12.
Helen was first cousin to John Law Hume (Violinest on Titanic). I'm not sure which side it was on though. John L. Hume was Andrews son.
My mom and I are visiting Scotland in August and I'd love to know more history of our family when we get there!
Thanks for any help.
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HI Beth
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Can you give some more dates please for Andrew/Grace Law.
The only Helen Hume b. in Kirkcudbrightshire around 1883 is a Hellen Hyslop Hume, b. 28 Dec 1883 at Glaisters Bridge, Balmaclellan. Her mother was Agnes Hume, a domestic servant.
This might not be her but it's the only one that I can find no El(l)en's b. Kirkcudbrightshire.
Regards
Gadget
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Turning to Andrew's parents:
The only John Hume/Ellen(alts) marriage that I can find on the IGI in Kirkcudbrightshire are banns read at Lochrutton and New Abbey - 26 Nov 1854 - 3 Dec 1854:
John Hume and Helen Halliday.
Gadget
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First of all, thank you.
Andrew B: 1865
Grace Law B: 1866
My biggest battle has been to find Helen "Nellie" Hume parents names. Her son Robert is still alive and has given me alot of information just not that :p I have worked my way backwards and tried going backwards from her first cousin.
I am not sure where she was born but I do know she ended up in Kirkcudbright when she was 12 and met Thomas Pearson there. I believe they were married there but I am not positive. Also Thomas was from Kirkcudbright, at least that is what he put on all the forms I have found.
I do have both a Halliday and Hyslop on my tree just not sure if they are correct.
I don't know if it helps but I have a tree on Ancestry.com that I named Carlson Family tree but I'm not sure how to link it here, it is under bethsdragon user name.
Again Thanks! I have no idea what powers you draw from but they seem to be pretty great. :)
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Hi Beth
Thomas Pearson married Helen Hyslop Hume on 16 Feb 1911 (not 1909 as you have) at 67 High Street, Kirkcudbright. Church of Scotland banns.
Her mother was Agnes Andrew(s), maiden surname Hume as the birth registration that I found. We now have to find out who Agnes's parents were.
Gadget
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Andrew Hume and Grace law married in Kelvin, Glasgow on 23 July 1887
Andrew's parents were given as John Hume and Ellen, m.s. Halliday, as suggested by my previous post.
Neither parent is deceased on the certificate.
If you go to the Scotlands People site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk youmight well be able to find deaths for them which will give their parents' names.
It's pay to view but very reasonable. An index search and view/download of the certificate will cost 6 credits (1 credit = 20p)
Gadget
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There appears to be a reasonably thorough tree on Ancestry called 'Mark Preston's Ancestors' this gives information about your Hume family.
I can't access the full tree at the moment because that area of the site is 'undergoing maintenance'
Gadget
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In 1891, Andrew and Grace are living at 5 Nith Palce, Dumfries:
821 ED 17 Page
Hume
Andrew, 26, musician, b. Lochrutton, KKD
Grace, 25, b. Glasgow
Nellie, 2, b. Dumfries
John L, 7 months, b. Dumfries
Gadget
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1871
Cherrytrees Hamlet, Dumfries
821/1 ED 19 P 16
Hume
John, 39, attendant - lunatic asylum, b. Kirkcudbright, Urr
Ellen, 38,b. Kirkcudbright, Urr
Ebenezer, 14, Cropper (Tweed Mills) b. Dumfriesshire, Closeburn
James, 13, Piecer (Tweed Mills)b. Kirkcudbright, Lochrutton
Mary, 11, b. Kirkcudbright, Lochrutton
Ellen, 9, b. Kirkcudbright, Lochrutton
Andrew, 6, b. Kirkcudbright, Lochrutton
Agnes, 4, b. Dumfries
Maggie, 2, b. Dumfries
Jessie, 3 months, b. Dumfries
Gadget
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John Hume, Andrew's father died 11 Dec 1898, Cherrytrees, Dumfires. Aged 66. His parents were Robert Hume, farm servant and Helen m.s. Hyslop, both deceased.
Gadget
PS - I could continue with this but, given that you appear to have access to the census indexes via Ancestry and by using Family Search and Scotlands People, you can get all the information that you need
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:D Again, Thank you!
I have searched Ancestry and didn't find a third of what you have. I'm excited to go home and put all of this in tonight and see what I can find with this new info. I hope I become better the more I search.
Gadget - you are amazing!
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Hi Beth
Before you go writing ~
This might well be Agnes Hume/Andrew, mother of Helen Hyslop Hume:
Death - 7 Sept 1944 45 netherplace Road, Newton Mearns, Renfrewshire
Agnes Andrew (formerly Russell)
Widow of William Andrew Russell, general labourer
Aged 82
Mother - Agnes Hume, afterwards married to Peter Murray, road surface man, deceased
Informant - R Andrew, son, 63 Clincart Road, Glasgow
Gadget
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;D
You just solved one of my mysteries. We knew Nellie went to live with her grandmother between 6 mos-1 yr old after her father died and her mother went elsewhere to work. We knew her mother later remarried an Andrew but we couldn't figure out why everyone called Nellies grandmother "Grama Murray"!
Fantastic.
I'm starting to think Agnes wasn't married to Nellies father, scandalous. ha ha
You may never know how much this little piece of info means to my family but believe me it means alot. My great uncle (nellies son) is thrilled to see things that remind him of his childhood and I have a feeling my trip is going to be even better for the info.
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John and Ellen Hume (Halliday)were also parents of Lilly May Hume - my Great Granddmother. I have it that Robert and Helen (Hyslop) Hume were Johns parents. Can you verify?
Regards
I am looking for information about the Hume family from scotland.
I know of Andrew Hume 1st marriage to Grace Law and second marriange to Alice Mary. He was born in Kurkcudbright and later moved to upstate NY.
His parents were John & Ellen Hume.
Our family ties in with Helen (Nellie) Hume born 1883 who married Thomas Pearson in 1909. She was raised by her grandmother Murray (?) and went to work at the Glenross house as a maid when she was 12.
Helen was first cousin to John Law Hume (Violinest on Titanic). I'm not sure which side it was on though. John L. Hume was Andrews son.
My mom and I are visiting Scotland in August and I'd love to know more history of our family when we get there!
Thanks for any help.
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Hi and Welcome to Rootschat :)
I believe that they were:
John Hume, Andrew's father died 11 Dec 1898, Cherrytrees, Dumfires. Aged 66. His parents were Robert Hume, farm servant and Helen m.s. Hyslop, both deceased.
Is there anything else that you need to know?
Regards
Gadget
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Thanks - that is what I also have - do you know of anything further back - or where I can look?
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There's quite an extensive tree on Ancestry that I mentioned in one of my previous messages.
If you have access to Ancestry, you could go here:
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/6702663/family?fpid=-1194378678
All the facts should be checked out though.
Scotland's People is the best site ( www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk ) but check on the IGI (www.familysearch.org ) first as Scotlands People is pay to view.
Gadget
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Thanks Gadget, I did see the family tree for John and Ellen (Halliday) Hume. I was trying to go beyond John Humes father, Robert and /or find some family members of the Halliday side as well as the Hyslop one :).
Many thanks for your help thus far.
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Ebenezer Hume is the only parent showing for Robert. Have you checked out if Robert died after Jan 1855 - if so his parents' names should be on his death cert.
It's a while since i looked at this family so I'm a bit rusty :-\
Gadget
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It might be worth starting a new 'thread' for the other lines rather than tagging it on to this one. Otherwise, it might get confusing.
To do this go to :
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,101.0.html
Click on New Topic on the right hand side and type in your request and a Subject heading - this should include names and dates if possible.
Gadget
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Thank you for info and will do as you suggest - have an awesome day further.
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Hi Bethsdragon.
My name is Ryan Kemp.
I also am related to John Law Hume. My Grandma (still alive) is Anne Hume, her husband (deceased) is blood relative of John Law Hume
I saw your post and thought you might like some new info for the Hume family in the 1900s to 2000s
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Thanks
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They deleted the email so I have no way to contact you. I am interested in getting in touch with you.