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Title: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: gnwaters on Monday 30 March 09 00:31 BST (UK)
Hey guys thanks for all the help people have given me so far, I have a huge problem with part of my tree though i can find a single thing on Kathleen Frances Kyte apart from her death recrod which i have the cert for and i nkow she married in 1909, but i can not find any thing on her birth or her parents,  please help me some one if you can lol.

kind regards

gareth
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: Mum44 on Monday 30 March 09 00:48 BST (UK)


Gareth - hello again   :)

Was that her maiden name or her married name ?

I can't see a Kathleen Kyte marrying in 1909,  only an Edward, Thomas, William or Robert.

Where / who did she marry ?  And where did she die ?
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 March 09 00:51 BST (UK)
When did she die and how old was she at that time

Do you have a copy of her 1909 marriage cert showing her age and her fathers name and occupation

She may have been married previously so Kyte could have been her previous married name

GRO index checked and marriage was in the Dec qtr 1909 Merthyr Tydvil 11A 1205
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 March 09 00:59 BST (UK)
The 1891 has a Frances Kathleen Kyte b 1887 in Huntington Herefordshire parents Edwin & Caroline

You need the marriage cert to confirm her fathers name
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 March 09 01:02 BST (UK)
Births December qtr 1886   
 
Frances Kathleen Kytz  Kington  6a 525
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: gnwaters on Monday 30 March 09 06:23 BST (UK)
i have the death cert which shows the age i had previously found the marriage gro but do not have a cert for that
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 March 09 11:41 BST (UK)
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i have the death cert which shows the age


When did she die and how old was she at that time
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: gnwaters on Monday 30 March 09 11:43 BST (UK)
She died 23rd dec 1961 aged 81

married 1909 to aaron lewis

Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 March 09 11:49 BST (UK)
That gives a birthyear of 1880 but there is no 1881 entry for her or any freebmd birth

You need the marriage cert
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: Telford 1445 on Monday 30 March 09 17:29 BST (UK)
There is a Frances Kathleen Kyte on the 1891 census (daughter of Edwin & Caroline) aged 4 born in Huntington, Hereford and she's one of 5 children.

Think she's on the 1901 census (in Bryngwn) Radnor where her surname is spelt as Kite.  The rest of the family seem to be living in Radnorshire as well by then.
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 March 09 18:23 BST (UK)
Hi Telford

See above

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The 1891 has a Frances Kathleen Kyte b 1887 in Huntington Herefordshire parents Edwin & Caroline

You need the marriage cert to confirm her fathers name
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: Telford 1445 on Monday 30 March 09 20:58 BST (UK)
Yes, sorry about that. That's what comes off not reading the replies properly I guess :(
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: gnwaters on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:12 BST (UK)
hey giuy si have some more information, the age on the death cert i have apears to be wrong i have spoken to my grand mother today who has got the message that was placed in the memorial book at the crem where her ashes are held and it states that she was born in 1886, not 1880 as the death cert states.

now i have a more acurate ate i am going to try searching again butany help would be very great full, thank you again guys
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:20 BST (UK)
Hi

We have pretty much given all relevant info above re: birth and marriage

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GRO index checked and marriage was in the Dec qtr 1909 Merthyr Tydvil 11A 1205


As previously shown - You need a copy of her marriage cert to confirm her fathers name

If it was Edwin - we can provide 1891 and 1901 entries

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Births December qtr 1886   
Frances Kathleen Kytz  Kington  6a 525

That surname is as transcribed on freebmd but if you apply for a copy of her birth cert I would show both spellings to be sure or check the entry out at your local main library
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:23 BST (UK)
FreeBMD says Kytz but it's pretty clearly Kyte on the actual index  :)
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:26 BST (UK)
1891 census for Crossway Huntington Herefordshire

Children all b Huntington

Edwin Kyte 38 ag labourer b Herefordshire
Caroline 37 b Radnorshire
Alice 11
Thomas Charles 10
Mary Ann 7
Frances Kathleen 4
Elizabeth 2
RG12 Piece 2075 Folio 33 Page 8
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:28 BST (UK)
Hi Tati

Ancestry have now removed access to the full birth images as they claim to have "transcribed" all of them up to 2005.  It's a real nuisance in instances like this when you know full well it's a wrong transcription but can't check it out

Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: gnwaters on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:35 BST (UK)
Hi Tati

Ancestry have now removed access to the full birth images as they claim to have "transcribed" all of them up to 2005.  It's a real nuisance in instances like this when you know full well it's a wrong transcription but can't check it out




www.freebmd.ork.uk allows you to view the orignal mate.
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:42 BST (UK)
DUH - I completely forgot about that!!
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 31 March 09 19:56 BST (UK)
It's a real nuisance in instances like this when you know full well it's a wrong transcription but can't check it out
When you use ancestry's FreeBMd database they still offer 'view original'  :D

Also, it's useful to know that when you scroll down here
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8912&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
and here: http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8782&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
there's a 'browse collection' option (well hidden, isn't it! :P) 
Title: Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
Post by: Necromancer on Tuesday 31 March 09 20:02 BST (UK)
yes, somebody took great pleasure in telling me I was wrong and they were still in Ancestry last week   :o