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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: Valigene on Sunday 29 March 09 00:59 GMT (UK)
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My great great grandma was Louisa Nelson 1838, her mother was Caroline Allen 1814-1862.
Her father was Robert Nelson 1815 his death could be 1856 as the family lived in swannington and I have found this record but not yet confirmed.
I cannot find any parents for Robert. I am stuck.
Any help would be much appreciated--I would love to find if we have a link to Admiral Horatio.
Thanks Val
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Hi
On Freereg there is a baptism in 1821 at Swannington but it is probably too late and it won't help as there is no father given. Do you know if he was born in Swannington?
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1001244
Robert and Carolina's marriage
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=305210
Carolina's baptism
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1001165
Wendy ;D
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Hi
I think this maybe Carolina's parents marriage on IGI looking at the witness on Carolina's baptism record below.
THOMAS ALLEN & Judith STANNER 02 AUG 1808 Longham, Norfolk, England
I have checked 1851 & 1861 censuses and see that Robert was b in Swannington, also Caroline is a widow in 1861 so your death for Robert seems likely.
Wendy ;D
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Thank you so much for that, the Allen I am sorted with have gone back two more generations.So his mothers surname was Nelson, was he illegitimate? I will start searching Frances Nelson and see what I can find. Any further help would be greatly appreciated.
Val
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Hi Val
I wouldn't take Frances for Robert's mother as certain.
Parish records for Swannington may throw up another Robert. I don't think all PRs or Bishops Transcripts are on Freereg.
http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/s/swannington/ will give you some idea of different records available
http://www.curiousfox.com/uk/r.lasso?vid=53462&-nothing - Allen family to 1600
Norfolk Record Office Norwich has a list of holdings http://www.a2a.org.uk/about/contributors/153-list.asp
including Parish Records of Swannington [1540-1970] - ref. PD 44
http://www.archives.norfolk.gov.uk/documents/pdf/prat.pdf give a list of dates for Swannington
Wendy ;D
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I have joined the Norfolk FHS and they have a look up service. So I can say that Robert Nelson was born 27.05.1821 his mum was definately Francis Nelson.
Researcher spelt it with I although Frances is usually with E in female.
So I am assuming mum was probably in her teens when she had Robert so she would be born 1800-1806 ish.
I can only find 1 Frances but she was born in Yarmouth 1796, that would make her 25 when Robert was born,any help would be appreciated.
Val
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Hi
I presume you have Robert in the 1841 Census.
HO107 Piece 770 All Saints Tilney Folio 8 Page 12
I'm probably clutching at straws!!!
I note there is a Frances b 1795 Great Withcingham on Freereg. This is a few miles from Swannington.
Also a marriage of Israel Newham and Frances Nelson. If by any chance this turns out to be her I have the following census.
1861 census for Hackford by Reepham [just North of Swannington]
Israel Newham 66
Frances Newham 66 b Witchingham
RG9 Piece 1204 Folio 96 Page 12
If you belong to the Norfolk FHS, You should be able to find out more. It is something to look into anyway.
Wendy :)
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Thank you so much. This bit has been bugging me for ages. I am slowly making a bit of headway.
Val
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Hi Val
Frances was the daughter of Henry and Elizabeth Nelson nee Thrower
Individual Summary - 8 Jul 2015
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Name: Frances Nelson
Sex: Female
Father: Henry Nelson (b 1764)
Mother: Elizabeth Thrower (b 1777)
Individual Facts
Birth 10 Apr 1795 in Hockering Norfolk
Baptism 19 Apr 1795 in Great Witchingham Norfolk
Residence The Workhouse Great Witchingham (13 Oct 1808)
Census 1841 in Harveys Yard Hackford Norfolk
Census 1851 in Hackford by Reepham Norfolk
Census 1861 in Harveys Yard Hackford Norfolk
Census 1871 in Market Place Hackford Norfolk
Death 1881 in Aylsham Norfolk
Burial 24 Feb 1881 in Hackford by Reepham Norfolk
Marriages/Children
1. Israel Newham
Marriage 6 Nov 1825 in Reepham Norfolk
Children Clement Newham (b 1826)
William Newham (b 1830)
Hannah Newham (b 1834)
2. [UNKNOWN SPOUSE]
Children Robert Nelson (b 1815)
regards...Peter
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Hi Peter,
Thanks for that. I had finally discovered the parents.I have sorted Frances family tree but never discovered Roberts dad.. but Thanks.
Val
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Hi Val...Thank you for your reply.I was pleased to hear that you had found the parents of Frances Nelson born in 1795 in Hockering Norfolk.I am a descendent of John Nelson born in 1804 in Swannington Norfolk brother of your Frances
Individual Summary - 9 Jul 2015
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Name: John Nelson
Sex: Male
Father: Henry Nelson (b 1764)
Mother: Elizabeth Thrower (b 1777)
Individual Facts
Birth 1804 in Swannington Norfolk
Baptism 15 Dec 1804 in Swannington Norfolk
Occupation Gardener (1815)
Residence The Workhouse Great Witchingham Norfolk (bet 1815 and 1820)
Occupation Agrcultural Labourer (bet 1820 and 1859)
Residence Whitwell Norfolk (bet 1828 and 1841)
Census 1841 in Whitwell Norfolk
Census 1851 in Blackwater Great Witchingham Norfolk
Death 1859 in Great Witchingham Norfolk
Burial 7 Oct 1859 in Great Witchingham Norfolk
Marriages/Children
1. Martha King
Marriage 19 Oct 1827 in Hackford by Reepham Norfolk
Children William Nelson (b 1826)
Samuel Nelson (b 1830)
Edward Nelson (b 1831)
Ann Nelson (b Dec 1833)
Maria Nelson (b 1835)
Christiana Nelson (b 1838)
Esther Nelson (b 1839)
Charles Nelson (b 1842)
James Nelson (b 1848)
I have researched the Nelson family and would be pleased to pass on any documents that may be of interest to you. i would be interested in your connection to the Nelson family
regards..Peter