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Title: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: barney 2500 on Thursday 26 March 09 07:36 GMT (UK)
Hi everybody

I was wondering if somebody could help ,I'm looking for any information on elizabeth alice dickinson born about 1875 in blackburn lancashire i know she married my great grand father in about 1904 in blackburn they had a son called william born 1908 in darwen lancashire

what i can't find is her birth on record
information about her parents

any help will be gratefully received

yours andy
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 07:46 GMT (UK)

How sure you on the names, date and place?  These seem to be the options for Blackburn:

Births Mar 1873   

DICKINSON  Elizabeth    Blackburn  8e 433   

Births Mar 1875   
Dickinson  Mary Alice     Blackburn  8e 405   

Births Sep 1875 
Dickinson  Elizabeth Ann     Blackburn  8e 413   

Births Dec 1875   
DICKINSON  Annie Elizabeth     Blackburn  8e 389   

Births Sep 1876   
Dickinson  Eliza     Blackburn  8e 385   

Births Mar 1877 
Dickinson  Elizabeth Ellen     Blackburn  8e 412   

Regards

David
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 07:50 GMT (UK)

Going for the exact name in Lancs 1874-76:

Births Dec 1874     
Dickinson  Elizabeth Alice     Prescott  8b 656   

Births Sep 1875     
Dickinson  Elizabeth Alice     Chorley  8e 500   

Births Mar 1876   
Dickenson  Elizabeth Alice     W. Derby  8b 518   

Births Jun 1876   
Dickinson  Elizabeth Alice     Bolton  8c 347   
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 07:51 GMT (UK)
Andy

We could do with some more information, do you have any census hits on her and family?

David
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 07:53 GMT (UK)
I take it one these is her husband?

Marriages Sep 1904   
 
Almond  Betsy Ann    Blackburn  8e 922   
Ashworth  John Thomas     Blackburn  8e 922   
Dickinson  Elizabeth Alice     Blackburn  8e 922     
Hurst  William Britten     Blackburn  8e 922   
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: barney 2500 on Thursday 26 March 09 07:56 GMT (UK)
i have no hits on the census

the one i know about she married william britten hurst in 1904
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: suzard on Thursday 26 March 09 07:58 GMT (UK)
there are birth regs for Eliabeth Alice Dickenson in 1872,1876, 1878 in various parts of lancs - in addition to Dickinson's
you can see them on FreeBMD (note spelling of Dickenson)

I think you may have to purchase the marriage cert to get Father's name and occupation - as on census there are many Elizabeth Dickenson /Dickinsons abt correct age (some with middle initial A) so it is very difficult to know you are following the correct line without some documentation

Suz
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 08:00 GMT (UK)

On the 1901 there is a Elizabeth A Dickinson, 27, born Lancs, living in Blackburn, eployment: Cotton Weaver
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: suzard on Thursday 26 March 09 08:00 GMT (UK)
have you found them on 1911 census???

Suz
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 08:01 GMT (UK)
Andy

Where did you get the birth year of 1875 from?

David
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: barney 2500 on Thursday 26 March 09 08:03 GMT (UK)
no i have looked in to the 1911 census  forgot all about that
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: barney 2500 on Thursday 26 March 09 08:05 GMT (UK)
i had it on my other computer  but i lost it when the hard drive got wiped
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 08:08 GMT (UK)
On IGI there is a Elizabeth A Dixon which fits:

Dwelling   10 Brighton Grove
  Census Place Layton With Warbreck, Lancashire, England
  Family History Library Film   1342017
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   4253 / 9
  Page Number   14

But without some additional information we are fumbling in the dark a little.

David
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 08:12 GMT (UK)
There is no coroberating Birth for Elizabeth A Dixon in Blackburn to substantiate the 1881 IGI spelling of Dixon, so that may have been a transciption error.
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: Tati on Thursday 26 March 09 08:17 GMT (UK)
Hi all  :)

If I'm looking at the right family in 1911, Andy, her birth year is ca. 1881?

Agree with Suz - marriage cert is the way to go I'm afraid

 

Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: barney 2500 on Thursday 26 March 09 08:18 GMT (UK)
thankyou for all your help i will see if i can get some more information and get back to you all
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 08:18 GMT (UK)
Afraid I have to go ..... ttfn  ;)
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Thursday 26 March 09 08:29 GMT (UK)
Hi all  :)

If I'm looking at the right family in 1911, Andy, her birth year is ca. 1881?

Agree with Suz - marriage cert is the way to go I'm afraid

 



Morning Tats

This might be your one:

Births Jun 1882   
Dickinson  Elizabeth Alice     Blackburn  8e 505

 8)
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: Tati on Thursday 26 March 09 08:51 GMT (UK)
So, in 1911 we have, in Blackburn district, William B Hurst with wife Elizabeth A age 31 and 4 children, 3 of which seem to be from William's previous marriage to Annie.

Elizabeth A's birth place doesn't seem to be Blackburn  :P
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: barney 2500 on Thursday 26 March 09 15:38 GMT (UK)
thats correct william was married to an annie blakley before he married elizabeth alice dickinson
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: Tati on Thursday 26 March 09 15:43 GMT (UK)
Have you seen the actual 1911 census details? It could be useful to know what birth place Elizabeth gives  :) 
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: barney 2500 on Thursday 26 March 09 17:36 GMT (UK)
no i haven't seen the details on the 1911 census yet

i will be sending for the marriage cert in the next few days
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: Tati on Thursday 26 March 09 17:43 GMT (UK)
Really a shame we don't have access to the birth place - it could possibly have helped us ID her without the marriage cert  :-\
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Friday 27 March 09 08:05 GMT (UK)
Her birth place seems to be Northwaite, I wonder where she would have been registered?
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: Tati on Friday 27 March 09 08:21 GMT (UK)
We'll need someone local to tell us - can't even find it on genuki :P
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Friday 27 March 09 08:36 GMT (UK)
Looks like there may be a few:

:
Northwaite, Ponsonby, Seascale, Cumbria CA20, UK
Northwaite, Dent, Sedbergh, Cumbria LA10, UK
Northwaite, Main St, Greenodd, Ulverston, Cumbria LA12, UK
Northwaite, Low Mill, Egremont, Cumbria CA22, UK

Though only 2 with a Lancashire postcode...... was Cumbria ever Lancs?
Title: Re: elizabeth alice dickinson
Post by: williamscdr on Friday 27 March 09 08:40 GMT (UK)

Dates wise there are these 2:

Births Jun 1881   
 
DICKINSON  Elizabeth Alice     Ormskirk  8b 779   
DICKINSON  Elizabeth Alice     Wigan  8c 124