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Looking for information on Catherine Payne nee Feakins & hubby William Bulley Payne.
They arrived on the Helen Denny on 20th September 1875 port of arrival Hawkes Bay.
Mackiwi :)
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Hi Mackiwi
This looks like their marriage on FREE BMD (UK) ???
Marriages DEC 1864
Catherine FEAKINS - William Bully PAYN *
(* = as spelt on index)
Registration District - Sheppey (Kent)
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Or are you looking for info, since their arrival in NZ ?
Lu
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Hi Lu,
Yes after their arrival, I think I have most of their children but cannot find their deaths or burials.
Mackiwi :)
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--- possible death for Catherine PAYNE ?
["Helen Denny" passengers 1875 : Catherine PAYN (28) - (w/o William) - born c. 1847]
NZ Deaths - from (online) Historical index :
1912 / 8612 - PAYNE - Catherine - 64 years (b.c. 1848) ???
Perhaps check on microfiche death index (& district keys) to see where this death was registered ?
Lu
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Hi Lu,
Yes that is them on the Helen Denny, also the correct date of birth. From memoery 25th August 1848.
Can you explain to me what this is please ?
(1912 / 8612 - PAYNE - Catherine - 64 years (b.c. 1848) and where you found it.
Have spent this morning digging around in P Past
Mackiwi :)
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Can you explain to me what this is please ?
(1912 / 8612 - PAYNE - Catherine - 64 years (b.c. 1848) and where you found it.
Hi Mackiwi
"1912/ 8612" is the reference number for the death of "a Catherine PAYNE" ... and can be found on the new online Historical BDM indexes. See the web link "Historical BDM" posted in the Resources section of this board. (The "bc 1848" I just added .. to save you working out when this Catherine was born. ;))
Note: The only problem with the new online BDM, is that they (NZ BDM) have allocated "new" reference numbers for everything ! - i.e. these new numbers do not match what was entered on the old microfiche indexes. So, if you want to find where this Catherine died, then you'll need to consult the microfiche Death index for the old registration number, then look at the District Keys booklet, to ascertain where the death was registered.
Lu
PS: There were lots of William PAYNE deaths (online) ... I just looked for the "Catherine" one, 'cos it was the easiest. ;)
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Thanks Lu,
Mackiwi :)
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Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname PAYNE Given Names Catherine d 1912 age 64
Record Number 342 Record Type M/I
Location Winton (Old) Cemetery T01.17
Bye
Alhtea
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Hi Althea,
Wow thank you for that, I will check at the library to see if there is a William there that fits the details I have. The age fits what I have for Catherine.
Cheers
Mackiwi :) :) :)
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There is no WILLIAM's on the index for OLD WINTON
But there are in Southland Cemeteries
1920 no age.
Maybe contact Southland council and check
Bye
Althea
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re Historical BDM's online.
Wow there goes all my spare time now. Already found 2 I didn't know were born in NZ
Mackiwi :) :) :) :)
P S no prolem loading home page
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Found his death on NZ Historical index
William Bentley Payne d. 1931/9416 age 93
Mackiwi :)
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The William Bentley d 1931 was New Plymouth area
see archives for will and Land transmission docs
Bye
Althea
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Found his death on NZ Historical index
William Bentley Payne d. 1931/9416 age 93
Mackiwi :)
There are (two) George Bentley PAYNE's buried New Plymouth
(one an infant) - the other d. 22 July 1959 ... also aged 93.
Are they connected to your family ?
PS : I thought it was a "William Bulley / Bully PAYNE" you were looking for ?
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The Catherine PAYNE buried in Winton was the wife of Samuel PAYNE, according to Winton MI fiche, so probably not yours.
Ian C
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Thank you Ian, I take it she is yours.
The little puzzles that are sent to try us.
William Bully Payn is recorded in family reseach as William Bentley Payne.
I assumed that Bully should have been recorded as Billy as his father was also William.
As with the records in NZ Historical Index the birth of Horace Payne is spelt Honess.
I also have another changed from Ellen to Helen, plenty of examples where minor errors are made.
George Bentley Payne and his baby are one of the branches of my family tree.
Mackiwi :)
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No not mine. I have the cemetery fiche and just looked it up.
Looked for them in 1871 in UK census but no sign. Did find a William and Catherine BENTLEY though.
Ian C
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Hi Ian,
Was the surname Bentley or Payne ?
Mackiwi
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Surname was BENTLEY, Catherine was born Lenham, Kent from memory. Found the FEAKINS family in 1861 where Catherine was was born Lenham.
Have just had a look at the original handwritten image from the index for WBP marriage to Catherine, and his name is in there twice. Obviously could not read the second name from the register. William Butty PAYN and William Bully PAYN.
Ian C
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Children Eliza 5, James W 3, and George 3m. The childrens births were as BENTLEY.
Ian C
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Hi Ian
Aaah just found your latest post, the plot thickens. Will post what I have written anyway. :) :)
William & Catherine (nee Feakins) Payn & 4 children came out on the Helen Denny in 1875.
William was born at Minster, Isle of Sheppy, Kent & Catherine Feakins at Lenham Kent.
William Bully Payn was the name found for the marriage in 1864.
All family records since they arrived in NZ has the the spelling as Payne and all the children had Bentley in their names. e.g. Eliza Bentley Payne married William Stephens.
I haven't seen any census for Feakins or Payne/Payn yet as I have only recently started looking at this branch of the family after receiving a copy of the family from a distant relly.
Mackiwi
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Helen Denny 1875
William Payn 33
Catherine Payn 28
Eliza Payn 10
James W Payn 7
George Payn 5
Amy Payn 9mths
My head is spinning, did Catherine have 3 before she married William ? was Bentley the name of the father? Why would the name Bantley be give to the rest of the children.
But then the ages don't match with the shipping list.
Mackiwi ???
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Hi Mackiwi :)
From FREE BMD (UK)
Births - DEC - 1866
PAYN - Eliza B. - Reg. District - Blean (Kent)
Lu
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---- is the son, named "James WIlliam" ?
This may be him ???
Births - June - 1868
PAYNE - James William - Reg. District. - North Aylesford (Kent)
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1871
Hamdale??, Newington, Kent
William BENTLY, head mar 31, Farm servant, born Kent, Manston/Marston - could be Minster
Catherine do, wife mar 25, born Kent, Lenham
Eliza do, dau 5, born Kent, Bredgar
James W do, son 3, born Kent, Newington
George do, son 6m, born ditto
RG10/982/F138/P18
This is just a coincidence I think or there is an enumerator error in that they heard Bently and took it as the surname. No sign that I can find of any PAYN/PAYNEs in 1871 with these names.
Eliza PAYNE birth Dec qtr 1865, Milton, 2a 698 - Milton covers Bredgar
James William PAYNE birth Jun qtr 1868, N Aylesford, 2a 416
George Henry PAYNE birth Sep qtr 1870, Milton, 2a 748 - Milton also covers Newington
Amy PAYNE birth Sep qtr 1874, Milton, 2a 753
1851
High St, Minster, Sheppey
William PAYN, head mar 36, Ag lab, born Kent, Minster Sheppey
Sarah PAYN, wife mar 38, born Kent, Frinsted
William PAYN, son 11, Ag lab, born Kent, Minster Sheppey
Harriet PAYN, dau 10, born ditto
next page
Mary A PAYN, dau 6, Ag lab daus, born ditto
Frances PAYN, dau 3, ditto, born ditto
Una PAYN, dau 10mo, ditto, born ditto
HO107/1628/F331/P35
Ian C
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Hi Lu & Ian,
Yes James William & Eliza B, those 2 match the ages for arrival in NZ
Mackiwi :)
Wow 1871 & Births
1851 looks like Williams parents & siblings, although the only siblings I have for him are Rachel & Ann from newspaper death notice of his mother.
Mackiwi :) :)
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1861
Spring Cottage, Harty, Kent
Jacob FEAKINS, head mar 40, Ag lab, born Kent, Lenham
Charlotte FEAKINS, wife mar 40, born ditto
Catherine FEAKINS, dau 13, Scholar, born ditto
John FEAKINS, son 11, Scholar, born Kent, Eastchurch
William FEAKINS, son 9, Scholer, born Kent, Minster Sheppey
Anny/Amy?? FEAKINS, dau 6, Scholar, born Kent, Isle of Grain
Harris FEAKINS, son 2, Scholar, born Kent, Lenham
RG9/532/F37/P6
1851 - indexed as FORKINS
Windmill Quay Cottages, Minster Sheppey
Jacob FEAKINS, head mar 31, Ag lab, born Kent, Lenham
Charlotte FEAKINS, wife mar 30, born ditto
Mary A FEAKINS, dau 3, born Kent, Hollingbourne
Catherine FEAKINS, dau 3, born Kent, Eastchurch
John FEAKINS, son 1, born Kent, Lenham
HO107/1628/F320/P12
Jacob FEAKINS married Charlotte GILLETT, Jun qtr 1847, Hollingbourne, 5 341
Ian C
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Hi Mackiwi
re: Eliza B. ... that is incorrect.
Ian has found the right birth ... Eliza - Dec 1865. (That matches with the census info). :)
Lu
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1861 - indexed as PAM
Minster Pl, Minster in Sheppey
William PAYN, head mar 43, Ag lab, born Minster
Sarah PAYN, wife mar 44, born Frinsted
William PAYN, son unm 21, Ag lab, born Eastchurch
Frances PAYN, dau 13, born Minster
Une PAYN, dau 11, Scholar, born ditto - Could be Anne
Rachael PAYN, dau 8, Scholar, born ditto
George PAYN, son 1, born ditto
Edward DIGBY, lodger unm 19, Ag lab, born Halsted, Essex
RG9/530/F31/P14
Ian C
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William PAYNE married Sarah BENTLEY, Mar qtr 1840, Sheppey, 5 420
Ian C
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From the IGI
Harriet PAYNE bapt 21 Mar 1841, Eastchurch, parents William and Sarah
Mary Ann PAYNE bapt 16 Jun 1844, Eastchurch, parents William and Sarah
Frances PAYNE bapt 5 Jan 1851, Minster in Sheppey
Rachel PAYNE bapt 16 Mar 1853, Minster in Sheppey
Looks like only the girls names have been extracted.
Ian C
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Thank you so much to take in. Will go and digest it all and continue my seach for burials in NZ
Cheers
Mackiwi :) :)
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One puzzle sorted, William Bentley Payne's mother was Sarah Bentley.
Someone had given me Sarah Alcock which didn't make sense really.
Mackiwi
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Update ...........I now have Williams death cert mother Sarah Alcock. Can't find anything online for her.
Mackiwi ???
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Hi
I have connections to William B Payne married Catherine Feakins, came to NZ with a daughter named Amy Payne who married Henry Beattie in Halcombe NZ. Is this the same family?
Thanks
Sanz
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Hi
Yes I think you have the right family. Beattie rings a bell with me. I will look up my listings and get back to you.
BTW William B Payne was registered at birth as William Bentley Paine Bentley.
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I got a notification through my automated google search re:
Title: Feakins/Payne
Post by: Mackiwi on Wednesday 25 March 09 21:38 GMT (UK)
Looking for information on Catherine Payne nee Feakins & hubby William Bulley Payne.
Mackiwi :)
And later in the thread:
Post by: Eyesee on Saturday 28 March 09 20:45 GMT (UK)
Surname was BENTLEY, Catherine was born Lenham, Kent from memory. Found the FEAKINS family in 1861 where Catherine was was born Lenham.
Well my Great Great Great Grandmother was Charlotte Feakins b1802 in Lenham, Kent, England - Also recorded in some censuses as "Little Chart".
Possibly your relatives Aunt? Though this is just an idea. Let me know is any interest or relavence.
Regards
Martin Collins
Bexhill on Sea, East Sussex
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As far as the Feakins family is concerned there have been many misspellings in the recorded BDMs etc Horace has been spelled Harris. Bentley Payne has been spelled Bully/Bulley (or similar) Payne and many of the family have recorded as being the children of their aunty. Horace has been named Horace Henry who was actually the baby son of Horace Feakins and Mary Ann Rogers.
I have been fortunate to have had two family bibles and the Feakins entries are as follows:
Jacob Feakins Charlotte Feakins
B: 24-1-1820 B:7-4-1820
D:14-7-1902 Aitkenhead Taranaki D: 7-12-1907 Stratford
Mary Ann Catherine John William
B;14-1-1842 B:25-8-1848 B: 29-9-1849 B: 19-10-1851
R:Hollingbourne R: Lenham R:Eastchurch R:Eastchurch
Amy Elyzer Horace Charlotte
B:5-11-1854 24-1-1857 B: 7-3-1859 B:29-2-1862
R:Grain Island R:Lenham R: Lenham R:Minster Sheppy
CH:Eastchurch
Kate's children
Eliza Bentley Payne James William Bentley Payne George Bentley Payne
B:6-10-1865 B:3-12-1867 25-9-1870
R: Sittingbourne R: Sittingbourne R: Sittingbourne
I have been very careful to spell these entries exactly as in the bible but even here we think Elyzer should be Eliza.
The entries show the movements of the Feakins family across Kent and My wife and myself have followed these paths from Lenham to the islands of Grain and Sheppy in the Firth of Thames In some cases they were say registered in Lenham or Hollingbourne but these are the registry office or parish and they lived and worked in nearby villages.
Jacob's father Jacob is registered a died in Lenham which I think is the parish because I found an entry for his death in the workhouse in Hollingboune which is just up the road. The workhouse had just been demolished to build a big new home when we saw it but the little mortuary still stands in the field.
I hope this is of interest to the Bentley Payne and Feakins families I have many family photos and Photos taken around Lenham and one of the wee mortuary I think the last place Jacob's father visited. I am just a nut for photos but it's fun.
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See even I Got Amy's Birth year wrong until I checked again
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Greetings Martin,
Was your Charlotte Feakins b. 1802 the daughter of John Feakins(Fekins) and Catherine Evans ? Our families both come from the same area so it is more then likely they are connected. I have Robert Evans, Thomas Judith and Jacob as their children, but some siblings could be missing.
Firstupau & sanz1,
Your information matches mine, although I have not been able to find my Amy Payne's marriage, you may have the answer I am looking for.
TedD
No worries, we can't be perfect all the time, at least you picked up the error :)
Mackiwi :) :)
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If anyone is interested, I have collected Feakins in Kent area 1841 to 1911. May not be everyone but I was concentrating on Jacob's family and collected a few extras. Also have other bits and pieces all in a word document and have to send a copy.
Mackiwi
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Hi Everyone,
I apologise but I have not found a Beattie link but doesn't mean there isn't one.
Ted thanks for your information. I will double check my public listing on MyHeritage and Ancestry for accuracy as per your family bible source.
As I studied the Bentley and Payn lists I came to realise that these people migrated over a REALLY small area around Lenham. One consistency is that their surname is always spelled Payn in the Census. If you cast a little more widely within Kent you find Paynes but they are not the same family. They also tended to stay in the same locale for example William Bully always lived in the same house in Sheppey according to the census. Their children might venture to the next village and that is how we get family in Eastchurch, the Isle of Grain and down into Lenham where they meet up with the Feakins family.
I too like the photos and also like Google Street View and Google Earth for modern day views.
BTW Ted, my mother Maureen in New Plymouth says hello and explained how the Feakins and early Payne photos I have came most likely from your collection.
I will be back when I learn or confirm something new. I need to order the NZ death certificates for William Bentley and his wife too. It will confirm a few 99% certainties that I have.
Regards, Brett Payne
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Thank you all for information that I can use to piece together my family tree.
[I will say my] Amy Bentley Payne [spelling aside] is my GGG grandmother, married Henry Beattie 15/04/1892 in Halcombe, NZ.
They had 7 children:
Henry Arthur Beattie 1893-1936
Norman James Beattie 1895-1915
David Edward Beattie 1896-1918
Charles Herbert Beattie 1898-1982
Margaret Amy Beattie 1900-1989 Married name was Cadzow
Stanly William Beattie 1903-1903
Robert Douglas Beattie 1908-1964
Only one child had issue Henry Arthur Beattie
If any one has photo's of the family [Feakins/Payne, Payn] , I would love copies.
Thanks
Sandra
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Sandra, If you P M me your email address I can send you a few photos.
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For those looking for Feakins family burial sites I think we should start at the beginning which is the story of Primitive Methodist churches in Taranaki. This family were staunch Primitive Methodists and I would think they would not be buried other than the grounds of their church. Both Jacob and Charlotte were listed as Buried in Bell Block Cemetery. The Primitive Methodist Church was erected in 1850 at Bell Block and seated 100, Quite a substantial building. What happened to it and where was it sited on the property?
Did it burn down or was it demolished? What happened to the church records?
Are they held in the Methodist Church archives?
Somewhere back in the 1900s I was researching the Rogers family and had an address to write to for Methodist records but when driving through Bell Block we came across the graves of William Rogers and his wife Eliza Scandlyn which we had been hunting for. Badly damaged and tucked away in the corner of an empty section on the corner of Mangati Road. Was going to get permission to restore this grave but a new church popped up on the same property and the grave was restored. I then ceased to follow up on finding the records until now this Feakins family have surfaced and they are buried in the same cemetery.
Does anyone know where the old records are and can we access them or were they destroyed with the church?
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Well folks unfortunately I will be away in Australia for a month and will be back on 18th September. I will be able to pick emails but won't have time to do much.
I have a suggestion.
We have a lot of information on the Feakins family up to when they came to New Zealand and after.
I have quite a lot on the family of Horace and little bits on some of the others.
If one or two people would do each family descended from Jacob and Charlotte EG. Say two or more descendants from each family.
Catherine (Bentley Payne)
Mary Ann (Friend)
William (Feakins)
John (Feakins)
Horace (Feakins)
Amy (Gilbert)
Someone to track down the Methodist records would also be great.
When each group has the information we put it together in one database and give a copy to the New Plymouth library and one to the New Plymouth Genealogy group where it will be available to all family members in the future.
Our Feakins family is quite a significant Taranaki family and this could be a worthwhile project.
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O Ted, you can't fool us, nothing at all unfortunate about a trip away. Enjoy you holiday and don't worry we won't solve all the answers while you are gone I am sure. Come back refreshed And we we see what can be done re your suggestions.
:)
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Thank you all for information that I can use to piece together my family tree.
[I will say my] Amy Bentley Payne [spelling aside] is my GGG grandmother, married Henry Beattie 15/04/1892 in Halcombe, NZ.
They had 7 children:
Henry Arthur Beattie 1893-1936
Norman James Beattie 1895-1915
David Edward Beattie 1896-1918
Charles Herbert Beattie 1898-1982
Margaret Amy Beattie 1900-1989 Married name was Cadzow
Stanly William Beattie 1903-1903
Robert Douglas Beattie 1908-1964
Only one child had issue Henry Arthur Beattie
If any one has photo's of the family [Feakins/Payne, Payn] , I would love copies.
Thanks
Sandra
Sandra,
Thanks for this info. I will change the marriage details I have for Amy.
Likewise I can share the photo's I have if you like just send me a personal message with your contact details.
Rgds
Brett
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Brett,
Do you have a copy of William Bentley Payne's death ? if not send email address via PM
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Some further information about Amy Payne
Amy married Henry Beattie [1st husband], then when he died she remarried - Henry Hyett Bonnewell. I have copies of the marriage certificate for both marriages if anyone is interested in a copy.
Sandra
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Yes please, you have my email address from photos I sent.
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I spent a few hours researching the ship Helen Denny that the Payn(e), Feakins and Friend families came to NZ on. Below is the text of a document I put together. The document is also available as a PDF file with a couple of photos of the ship:
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The Helen Denny made at least two voyages to Napier, the first arrival was on the 22nd of October in 1874 and the second was in 1875. Our families came on the second voyage arriving on 20th September 1875.
The shipping register and passenger list transcription can be found at http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlists/helendenny.html and the details regarding our families are noted below.
A pretty little vessel that brought many hundreds of passengers to all parts of the Dominion from 1875 until 1896, was the Glasgow built ship, Helen Denny, one of the Shaw, Savill fleet. She was built as a fully rigged ship built in 1866 by Robert Duncan, Port Glasgow. Dimensions 187ft 5in x 31ft 2in x 19ft 1in.
When launched in November 1866 she was first owned by Patrick Henderson & Co., Glasgow. Shaw Savill & Co purchased the Helen Denny in 1872 for the New Zealand Immigrant Trade. She is recorded as making a voyage to Napier in 1874 and was then converted to a Barque rig before her next voyage in 1875.
Although only 728 tons she had a fairly good turn of speed and made many passages between London and the several New Zealand ports, considerably below the average, under a fine old sailor, Captain William Ruthe.
She sailed on the 26th of June 1875 from London to Hawkes Bay carrying 244 passengers on this 85 day voyage (which was a fast trip) under the command of Captain William Ruthe.
The names of the passengers that are most important to us are:
Families:
Feakins, Jacob, 50
Feakins, Charlotte, 50
Feakins, Charlotte, 13, Trans. to Single W.
Friend, James, 45
Friend, Mary A., 33
Friend, John, 2
Payn, William, 33
Payn, Catherine, 28
Payn, Eliza, 10
Payn, James W., 7
Payn, George, 5
Payn, Amy, 9m
Single Men:
Feakins, Horace, 16
Feakins/Teakins, Charles, 13
Single Women:
Teakins, Amy, 20
The list on the website was transcribed from LDS Film #0287450 and the entries for "Teakins" are clearly transcription errors.
Note that the spelling for Payn is still without an "e".
The Helen Denny went on to make numerous voyages between London and many New Zealand ports. One such voyage found her in Honolulu in 1894 when plague struck. One crew member died following her departure and she was quarantined at her next port of call. She was sold in 1896 to Messrs. Turnbull & Co., Christchurch and later, in 1900, to Capt. F Holm. She continued to run regularly in the inter-colonial trade between New Zealand, Australia and around the Pacific through 1913. She was sold finally in 1912 to the Paparoa Coal Co. where she was converted into a coal hulk at Lyttleton. She was towed to Auckland in 1946 before finally being towed out to sea and scuttled in 1948.
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Sources: http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Ships/Merchant/Sail/H/Helen_Denny(1866).html
http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlisth.html
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The original ship's manifest is on the FamilySearch pilot website,the passengers are in alphabetical order and yes the Feakins are before the Friends,it is well worth a look,it gives the cost to the government and cost to the individuals
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1609792
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Have I missed something. I have not found a Charles anywhere else in family records. I have thought there possibly was a Charles Teakins amongst the single men and his name in the passenger list was the reason for the mistake in Amy's surname.
TedD
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Hi Janette & TedD.
Yes I have all their travel details thank you.
Ted, Charles should read Charlotte a daughter of Jacob & Charlotte & yes Teakins should be Feakins, thats one that had me confused at the beginning when in came up on a marriage certificate. It was hard to decipher the T or F.
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Hi Janette & TedD.
Yes I have all their travel details thank you.
Ted, Charles should read Charlotte a daughter of Jacob & Charlotte & yes Teakins should be Feakins, that's one that had me confused at the beginning when in came up on a marriage certificate. It was hard to decipher the T or F.
Charlotte (Jacob and Charlotte's daughter) is also listed in the record. I was not sure that it was a double entry and would like to be able to see the original document. However I spent a lot of time yesterday scanning the UK Birth and Census records. I found 2-possible birth Index Records for Charles Feakins but cannot find any record of the family at all in the 1871 UK Census (have them in 1861).
So only suggestion of a Charles so far is in the immigrant list I found. ???
Cheers
Brett
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It was supposed to read Charlotte age 13 she was transferred to womens.
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Thanks - I followed the link to the original images of the Passenger List. I will study the handwritten records tonight. I looked at the index pages - there are no Teakins from what I can see between the flowery script and the watermark on the page and there is no Charles with the Feakins. The LDS transcriber got it wrong. Our job is to get it right.
Charles had a very short life - imagined - and mysterious but resolved by MacKiwi.
Thanks
Brett
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Yep,
Thanks Janette that is an excellent link to a resource I have never seen before. I read each page by inverting it as the negative image of faint writing is a lot clearer than normal view.
Charles Feakins was indeed a figment of the original LDS transcribers imagination.
I see everyone except Jacob and Charlotte travelled for free (100% on the NZ Government). I presume Jacob and Charlotte had to pay a share of their fare due to their advanced years.
Cheers
Brett
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The original ship's manifest is on the FamilySearch pilot website,the passengers are in alphabetical order and yes the Feakins are before the Friends,it is well worth a look,it gives the cost to the government and cost to the individuals
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1609792
Janette a great site, finally found time to check out somme of the rellies.
Am I right in thinking that where the is no mention of payment that the total cost was covered by the government?
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Somewhere back in the 1900s I was researching the Rogers family and had an address to write to for Methodist records but when driving through Bell Block we came across the graves of William Rogers and his wife Eliza Scandlyn which we had been hunting for. Badly damaged and tucked away in the corner of an empty section on the corner of Mangati Road. Was going to get permission to restore this grave but a new church popped up on the same property and the grave was restored. I then ceased to follow up on finding the records until now this Feakins family have surfaced and they are buried in the same cemetery.
Does anyone know where the old records are and can we access them or were they destroyed with the church?
Ted - what is your interest in the Rogers family? This is my husband's line and I have some information, including a picture of the gravestone of William Rogers and Eliza Scandlyn.
Cindy
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Hello Cindy
My wife's mother was a Feakins. Her father was Horace and her mother Mary Anne Rogers. I did a similar project on the Rogers as I am proposing for the Feakins. I do have photographs of the grave stone of William and Eliza and also have a very nice original photograph of William and Eliza. This photo started me on Genealogy because I thought what an interesting person he looked. When you think of the way the older Rogers children must have helped their younger brothers and sister when their mother was murdered. A great family and there must be many wonderful stories out there about them.
TedD